[uucdigest] Monday, January 31 2000 Volume 03 : Number 159 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] ROTFLMAO at myself [uuc] Dribily washer fluid <e30> Re: [uuc] Re: ROTFLMAO at myself [uuc] E28 Fan Clutch V10 vs V12 in F1 was Re: [uuc] <OT> F1 engine question [uuc] Simple Question RE: [uuc] Police State Re: [uuc] bought the F650 Re: [uuc] Police State ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 16:40:43 -0800 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] ROTFLMAO at myself I'll wait a few days and retell it. Jim Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks wrote: > > I love the story with your son and the air compressor. That's my > all-time favorite. > > Jim, ya gotta tell it. > > - Rob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] ROTFLMAO at myself > > > I bet at least half of you think I'm a pompous ass. Sometimes :) > > > > But nobody likes a joke at my expense more than me. Some of you > know > > the famous '12 dozen condoms from UPS' situation that I endured with > my > > neighbors. And there are dozens more. I could have Candid Camera > here > > almost everyday, I'm such a goober. > > Another story added to the legend. Gotta go, clouds are clearing. > > Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:54:06 -0500 From: Chris Pawlowicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Dribily washer fluid <e30> David Larocque sez > When i try to wash the windshield the passengers side gets full force while > the drivers side only drivels up after a few seconds. I tired cleaning the > nozzles numerous times but it does not seem to help. > this is a fairly common problem it is probably due to the 'T' fitting which splits the fluid flow to both washer jets (driver/passenger) try this: lift the hood and squirt the squirter.. if you see fluid shoot out of the little pressure overload hole in the T fitting then you need to replace the T costs ~$10cdn ($5 USD) and is held on with twisted wire and a friction fit (?) mine seem to last a couple of winters before dying you can also ram something through the check valve in the T fitting in an emergency and it will squirt again *but* the fluid will drain back to the reservoir after use and will take a while to squirt again chris pawlowicz '89 325i '74 2002 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:57:08 -0500 From: "Mark C. Finn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: ROTFLMAO at myself OK so "WE" are weird too. Being a military man these days (USAF), I pay respect to individuals many times a day by saluting. In our household (Wife and two daughters), we "sa-lute" every BMW that we see when we are in the car, not to mention the good ol'game of "slug bug". Mark Finn - Brainwashing the kids, wife-----Well? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 01:04:36 GMT From: "First Second" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E28 Fan Clutch My uncle has a '88 528e. He ordered a fan clutch from the dealer, and it came. Problem is that the clutch is "larger" then the original one. It will mount up, but the fan will be "pushed" closer to the radiator. Is this a new superceded part and is it suppose to be like that? The original clutch is a behr. Any help would be appreciated. TIA. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:12:51 -0500 From: "Adam Fila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: V10 vs V12 in F1 was Re: [uuc] <OT> F1 engine question V12's are allowed in F1. The www.tifosi-club.com web page has a good writeup in the tech section on the Ferrari V12 at http://www.tifosi-club.com/tech/v12.htm and http://www.tifosi-club.com/tech/v12b.htm >From the article: "One of the main problems with the 3.0-liter V12, was lack of drivability. This was a direct result of torque loss. Also hindering performance was the higher weight in comparison to its ten cylinder counterparts. While horsepower and RPMs were near to equal with those of the competitors, overall drive out of the corners was not. The new generation of V12 engines will not be subject to the same limitations as its predecessors. There are several factors that favor this layout. The modern ten-cylinder motor creates incredible amounts of vibration. This in turn requires strengthening almost every part of the car behind the cockpit. This adds up to extra weight. While the V12 engine weighs more than a V10, it runs smooth, not having the same quantity of destructive oscillations and harmonics. This allows for lighter parts, both in construction of the engine and the surrounding components. Engine parts that weigh less can rotate faster. Thus, higher RPMs can be achieved, generating more horsepower. Another contributor to horsepower is the increase in combustion efficiency due to the smaller cylinder size. There are, as with anything, drawbacks. The addition of two cylinders brings added friction. There is an increased surface area on the cylinder walls, bearings, crankshaft, and camshafts. Eight more valves need to be actuated. The physical dimensions of the engine increase. Torque loss must be rectified to improve drivability issues. Resolving these concerns is no small task." Btw, this is what the FIA F1 rulebook says about the engine: (from http://www.fia.com/) ARTICLE 5 : ENGINE 5.1 Engine specification : 5.1.1 Only 4-stroke engines with reciprocating pistons are permitted. 5.1.2 Engine capacity must not exceed 3000 cc. 5.1.3 Supercharging is forbidden. 5.1.4 The maximum number of cylinders is 12 and the normal section of each cylinder must be circular. 5.1.5 Engines may have no more than 5 valves per cylinder. OBMWC #1: Sorry for all this Ferrari talk, but I believe it does apply to BMW as well, and probably explains their choice of a V10 over a V12. (BMW, much like Ferrari, would get a bigger marketing benefit from winning in F1 with a traditional V12, rather than a V10, which neither manufacturer sells in their production cars - same reasons for "V12" in the LMR's name - - marketing) OBMWC #2: One of the last drivers of the last Ferrari V12 F1 engine ('95 season) was Gerhard Berger, who is now the director of BMW Motorsport and the head of BMW's F1 program. - -Adam Fila '95 M3 (which wouldn't object to a V12 engine transplant :) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Desoto, Byron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 7:07 PM Subject: RE: [uuc] <OT> F1 engine question > Hi all-- > > Actually, the current figures are (and these are conservative, as this is > only what the manufacturers with "quote" in PR kits): > > Ferrari 049 V10: 17500 rpm > Mercedes FH110H V10: 17800 rpm > Honda (Mugen) MH301 V10: 18200 rpm > > No idea what the Ford/Jaguar Evolution 4 V10 is doing... > > If the FIA allowed V12's back in, no doubt we'd be seeing 20,000+ rpm power > plants. :) > > Ciao, > Byron > > '00 M Coupe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:18:34 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Simple Question In a message dated 1/31/00 1:04:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >The reason police used marked cars is to announce that they are police. So why do cops use Unmarked Cruisers, Taxi lookalikes (Have seen one of these in DC). Also why do they use unmarked Mustang GT(Black w/ tinted windows), and then pull up to another modded car and rev the engine, signaling they want to race? I guess this is so that the police can do their jobs of controlling the masses, in tune with preset laws formed by big money corporations, and lobby firms. - -Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:28:43 -0500 From: "Holmes, Michael A (Michael)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Police State I only just caught this thread but. Do people really hate the Police, or just hate getting caught and told off ? Every time I have been stopped I have been in the wrong, even if it has been by the slightest margin. I'm very polite and so are the officers. I do find American Police to be much less approachable though, and I wouldn't ask one for directions as I might elsewhere. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Powell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 9:57 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] Police State > > I won't go into any of my personal feeling about police but I think its > interesting and frightening that a rather large portion of the middle > class HATES the police. > > That ought to scare the living shit out of the police and government in > general. It ought to but it doesn't. Somehow its all our fault. > > And that, when analyzed enough, will show exactly why people hate the > police. > > I'm worried as hell about the future of this country. Fight to keep > your right to own a weapon people. Its time for a LOT of the government > to get a wake up call. > > Jim > > > > "Edwin S. MacVaugh" wrote: > > > > John Fount says a lot of stuff in response to Gilbert's question but > > doesn't answer the mail. > > > > > Well Gilbert...if you are asking the question, then you must not be > actually > > > aware why they run without the lights and sirens. > > > > > I reiterate what I have said in the past...lights and sirens cause > people to > > > get stupid. They stop in front of you. Turn in front of you. Turn > around > > > and look at you and host of other unexpected bone head movements. > > > > Here, in Maryland, you are expected to STOP when an officer puts his > > lights on behind you. To do otherwise is "fleeing and eluding" or > > "failure to stop when signaled by an officer." I doubt it is > > substantially different on the left coast. You pull to the right and if > > the officer needs by you, he goes by you. If you are the target, he > > pulls in behind you with his lights still going. > > > > When an officer goes by me (which means well in excess of the speed > > limit) without lights, I get stupid using my cell phone to get a hold of > > the cowboy's dispatcher and get him under control. The reason police > > used marked cars is to announce that they are police. If they are not > > also demonstrating proper driving techniques for the other drivers, they > > are not doing all of their job. I adopted this rant when mandatory seat > > belt use became the law and police chose to believe they could disregard > > it because they were special. They are not. > > > > I have never, once, had the dispatcher tell me that the cop was on a > > call. Never. > > > > > Probably 65% of arrests of your "real criminals" come out of traffic > stops for minor traffic violations. Think about that. I have arrested > > murderers, dopers, pushers, child molesters and rapists from your > "meaningless" traffic stops. > > > > This looks like the standard "the end justifies the means" argument that > > has never worked in America. If the cops are allowed to randomly pull > > over every Scots-Irish-American on the roadway, they would surely get > > people who were "murderers, dopers, pushers, child molesters and > > rapists". Of course if they did their job and tracked these folks down > > before they got on the highway, they'd pull over fewer. Instead, the > > prevailing thought is, "We won't bother searching for the fugitive, > > we'll wait and sooner or later he'll get stopped for a traffic violation > > and we'll get him then." You, John, are then twisting this around and > > saying, "Look how much benefit there is to this totalitarian police > > presence." That's disingenuous, and you know it. > > > > Ed MacVaugh (the only time I directly needed the police was when my > > truck was stolen, and I recovered it before they even tried) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:58:26 -0500 From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] bought the F650 Jim Powell wrote: >I've driven lots of air cooled BMWs, just to take a ride on friends >bikes. I'll be frank.......I don't like heavy bikes and to me the BMW was >the Cadillac of motorcycles. They had their purposes and none of them >were for me. > >Thats not to say I don't like them. I just don't do that type of riding. I've met Jim and he's a nice guy and an intelligent fellow. And I know we all become defensive of our prized machines, especially when we've just gotten them. That being said, I still don't understand the point of favoring the F650 over the "real", classic, air-cooled boxer model --for the rest of you who may be interested. Jim says he's ridden them and he doesn't like heavy bikes and doesn't do "that kind of riding". Allow me to defend my suggestion to him against his desires/complaints with some facts. Dry weight lbs: F650 '95 R100R '95 R100GS '81 R100CS '72 R60/6 (NADA) 421 434 434 437 421 Horsepower 48 60 60 70 46 rear drive chain shaft shaft shaft shaft frnt.brake 1 disc 2 disc 2 disc 2 disc alloy drum And for the rest of you who seem to be laboring under the wrong impression that BMW motorcycles are heavy slugs ridden by paunchy middle aged men (well you may be right about that but I wasn't paunchy or old when I started 29 years ago): Consider the new R1100S:487lbs.,98hp,6sp,ABS,twin front discs. (No Cadillac) I know Jim will love the F650, but that's no reason others of you should have to perpetuate the erroneous impression of BMW bikes handed out by others. Just performing my evangelical duties. - -Phil Marx R27, R69US, R60/5, R100CS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:58:13 -0800 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Police State The thread is closed. Jim "Holmes, Michael A (Michael)" wrote: > > I only just caught this thread but. > Do people really hate the Police, or just hate getting caught and told off ? > Every time I have been stopped I have been in the wrong, even if it has been > by the slightest margin. I'm very polite and so are the officers. > I do find American Police to be much less approachable though, and I > wouldn't ask one for directions as I might elsewhere. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Powell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 9:57 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [uuc] Police State > > > > I won't go into any of my personal feeling about police but I think its > > interesting and frightening that a rather large portion of the middle > > class HATES the police. > > > > That ought to scare the living shit out of the police and government in > > general. It ought to but it doesn't. Somehow its all our fault. > > > > And that, when analyzed enough, will show exactly why people hate the > > police. > > > > I'm worried as hell about the future of this country. Fight to keep > > your right to own a weapon people. Its time for a LOT of the government > > to get a wake up call. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > "Edwin S. MacVaugh" wrote: > > > > > > John Fount says a lot of stuff in response to Gilbert's question but > > > doesn't answer the mail. > > > > > > > Well Gilbert...if you are asking the question, then you must not be > > actually > > > > aware why they run without the lights and sirens. > > > > > > > I reiterate what I have said in the past...lights and sirens cause > > people to > > > > get stupid. They stop in front of you. Turn in front of you. Turn > > around > > > > and look at you and host of other unexpected bone head movements. > > > > > > Here, in Maryland, you are expected to STOP when an officer puts his > > > lights on behind you. To do otherwise is "fleeing and eluding" or > > > "failure to stop when signaled by an officer." I doubt it is > > > substantially different on the left coast. You pull to the right and if > > > the officer needs by you, he goes by you. If you are the target, he > > > pulls in behind you with his lights still going. > > > > > > When an officer goes by me (which means well in excess of the speed > > > limit) without lights, I get stupid using my cell phone to get a hold of > > > the cowboy's dispatcher and get him under control. The reason police > > > used marked cars is to announce that they are police. If they are not > > > also demonstrating proper driving techniques for the other drivers, they > > > are not doing all of their job. I adopted this rant when mandatory seat > > > belt use became the law and police chose to believe they could disregard > > > it because they were special. They are not. > > > > > > I have never, once, had the dispatcher tell me that the cop was on a > > > call. Never. > > > > > > > Probably 65% of arrests of your "real criminals" come out of traffic > > stops for minor traffic violations. Think about that. I have arrested > > > murderers, dopers, pushers, child molesters and rapists from your > > "meaningless" traffic stops. > > > > > > This looks like the standard "the end justifies the means" argument that > > > has never worked in America. If the cops are allowed to randomly pull > > > over every Scots-Irish-American on the roadway, they would surely get > > > people who were "murderers, dopers, pushers, child molesters and > > > rapists". Of course if they did their job and tracked these folks down > > > before they got on the highway, they'd pull over fewer. Instead, the > > > prevailing thought is, "We won't bother searching for the fugitive, > > > we'll wait and sooner or later he'll get stopped for a traffic violation > > > and we'll get him then." You, John, are then twisting this around and > > > saying, "Look how much benefit there is to this totalitarian police > > > presence." That's disingenuous, and you know it. > > > > > > Ed MacVaugh (the only time I directly needed the police was when my > > > truck was stolen, and I recovered it before they even tried) ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #159 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Curry's Auto Service . http://www.currysauto.com | Eurosport . http://www.eurosport-hp.com | Koala MotorSport . http://www.koalamotorsport.com | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | The Ultimate Garage . http://www.ultimategarage.com | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com | Zionsville Autosport . http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ����������������������������������������
