[uucdigest] Monday, January 31 2000 Volume 03 : Number 160 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Dribbly nozzles... RE: V10 vs V12 in F1 was Re: [uuc] <OT> F1 engine question Re: [uuc] bought the F650 [uuc] A Wish Re: [uuc] Jim and his stories [uuc] Re: Changing V-belt on M5 [uuc] Kart endurance race for RMC chapter members [uuc] The Dribbles [uuc] Jim and the Compressor Story [uuc] <OT> Viper alarms - better transmitter casings? [uuc] CCA Elections for VP ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:54:16 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Dribbly nozzles... Yup, had it on my 88 325i. There's a t-fitting under the hood that splits fluid from the single line from your washer fluid pump to the 2 nozzles. The fitting is actually a 1-way valve on the nozzle side and one of the valves has failed. Pry the hood insulation retainers off (use 2 small screw drivers; just remove the half closest to the nozzles) and remove the t-fitting. Have 3 small hose clamps ready (you DON'T want to reuse the ones BMW gave you!!) and an assortment of plain t-fittings (I think it was 1/4", but can't remember). My washer works great. 88 325i CCA98984 Dan Runyon ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:06:18 -0700 From: "Desoto, Byron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: V10 vs V12 in F1 was Re: [uuc] <OT> F1 engine question Hi Adam-- Unfortunately, the FIA has recently ruled out any engine larger than 10-cylinders until 2007. A rather displeasing move, in my opinion. Ciao, Byron - -----Original Message----- From: Adam Fila [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 5:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: V10 vs V12 in F1 was Re: [uuc] <OT> F1 engine question V12's are allowed in F1. The www.tifosi-club.com web page has a good writeup in the tech section on the Ferrari V12 at http://www.tifosi-club.com/tech/v12.htm and http://www.tifosi-club.com/tech/v12b.htm >From the article: "One of the main problems with the 3.0-liter V12, was lack of drivability. This was a direct result of torque loss. Also hindering performance was the higher weight in comparison to its ten cylinder counterparts. While horsepower and RPMs were near to equal with those of the competitors, overall drive out of the corners was not. The new generation of V12 engines will not be subject to the same limitations as its predecessors. There are several factors that favor this layout. The modern ten-cylinder motor creates incredible amounts of vibration. This in turn requires strengthening almost every part of the car behind the cockpit. This adds up to extra weight. While the V12 engine weighs more than a V10, it runs smooth, not having the same quantity of destructive oscillations and harmonics. This allows for lighter parts, both in construction of the engine and the surrounding components. Engine parts that weigh less can rotate faster. Thus, higher RPMs can be achieved, generating more horsepower. Another contributor to horsepower is the increase in combustion efficiency due to the smaller cylinder size. There are, as with anything, drawbacks. The addition of two cylinders brings added friction. There is an increased surface area on the cylinder walls, bearings, crankshaft, and camshafts. Eight more valves need to be actuated. The physical dimensions of the engine increase. Torque loss must be rectified to improve drivability issues. Resolving these concerns is no small task." Btw, this is what the FIA F1 rulebook says about the engine: (from http://www.fia.com/) ARTICLE 5 : ENGINE 5.1 Engine specification : 5.1.1 Only 4-stroke engines with reciprocating pistons are permitted. 5.1.2 Engine capacity must not exceed 3000 cc. 5.1.3 Supercharging is forbidden. 5.1.4 The maximum number of cylinders is 12 and the normal section of each cylinder must be circular. 5.1.5 Engines may have no more than 5 valves per cylinder. OBMWC #1: Sorry for all this Ferrari talk, but I believe it does apply to BMW as well, and probably explains their choice of a V10 over a V12. (BMW, much like Ferrari, would get a bigger marketing benefit from winning in F1 with a traditional V12, rather than a V10, which neither manufacturer sells in their production cars - same reasons for "V12" in the LMR's name - - marketing) OBMWC #2: One of the last drivers of the last Ferrari V12 F1 engine ('95 season) was Gerhard Berger, who is now the director of BMW Motorsport and the head of BMW's F1 program. - -Adam Fila '95 M3 (which wouldn't object to a V12 engine transplant :) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Desoto, Byron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 7:07 PM Subject: RE: [uuc] <OT> F1 engine question > Hi all-- > > Actually, the current figures are (and these are conservative, as this is > only what the manufacturers with "quote" in PR kits): > > Ferrari 049 V10: 17500 rpm > Mercedes FH110H V10: 17800 rpm > Honda (Mugen) MH301 V10: 18200 rpm > > No idea what the Ford/Jaguar Evolution 4 V10 is doing... > > If the FIA allowed V12's back in, no doubt we'd be seeing 20,000+ rpm power > plants. :) > > Ciao, > Byron > > '00 M Coupe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:14:19 -0800 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] bought the F650 Gaaaackkkkk! There's nothing wrong with those bikes. They are really nice. They just don't feel right to my butt dyno. And there aren't that many used BMWs available. Not here anyway. If people are getting rid of them, its through the good 'ol boy network. I never see them. So, since I wanted to buy new, the F650 is what I had to choose from. Besides, I will reiterate, I wanted a narrow, nimble bike to weave through traffic on. Riding between lanes of traffic is legal in California. The boxer may be narrow enough to do that but it *feels* wider to me. I really never expected to take heat for actually *buying* a BMW. :) But I'll conform if I must, just send me a check for $7300 and I'll drop this abortion off at the crusher tommorrow and go get a REAL BMW. Jim Powell Fake BMW '99 F650 Fake BMW '98 M3 <== not enough throttle bodies for some, rectangular tailights etc. Fake BMW '90 325i <== It only has 2 valves per cylinder and a slushbox Maybe I should just uns*bscribe, resign from the club and go buy a Taurus and Goldwing Phil Marx wrote: > > Jim Powell wrote: > >I've driven lots of air cooled BMWs, just to take a ride on friends > >bikes. I'll be frank.......I don't like heavy bikes and to me the BMW was > >the Cadillac of motorcycles. They had their purposes and none of them > >were for me. > > > >Thats not to say I don't like them. I just don't do that type of riding. > > I've met Jim and he's a nice guy and an intelligent fellow. And I know we > all become defensive of our prized machines, especially when we've just > gotten them. That being said, I still don't understand the point of > favoring the F650 over the "real", classic, air-cooled boxer model --for > the rest of you who may be interested. Jim says he's ridden them and he > doesn't like heavy bikes and doesn't do "that kind of riding". Allow me to > defend my suggestion to him against his desires/complaints with some facts. > > Dry weight lbs: F650 '95 R100R '95 R100GS '81 R100CS '72 R60/6 > (NADA) 421 434 434 437 421 > > Horsepower 48 60 60 70 46 > > rear drive chain shaft shaft shaft shaft > > frnt.brake 1 disc 2 disc 2 disc 2 disc alloy drum > > And for the rest of you who seem to be laboring under the wrong impression > that BMW motorcycles are heavy slugs ridden by paunchy middle aged men > (well you may be right about that but I wasn't paunchy or old when I > started 29 years ago): > > Consider the new R1100S:487lbs.,98hp,6sp,ABS,twin front discs. (No Cadillac) > > I know Jim will love the F650, but that's no reason others of you should > have to perpetuate the erroneous impression of BMW bikes handed out by > others. > > Just performing my evangelical duties. > > -Phil Marx > R27, R69US, R60/5, R100CS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:51:09 -0500 From: Jacob Steijn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] A Wish More humor http://home.att.net/~viseguy/fun.html It's a beautiful day, let's play two! -- Ernie Banks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:46:27 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Jim and his stories Powell wrote: >I'll wait a few days and retell it. >Jim OK but you also have to tell us the UPS and the dozen ******* story. The one about the blue bulbs and the girl had me on the floor. My co-workers think there is something definitely wrong with me laughing so hard at the computer. Carlos 91 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:07:11 -0500 From: Jacob Steijn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Changing V-belt on M5 This is the method I used. It works. I managed to get the belt wedged on pretty well but not all the way around the pulley, then got in the car and turned it over. I thought that was safer than having someone else tweak the starter with me under the car. It might take a few tries to get the belt to "catch" but it seems to be about the only way. I tried the longer belt method, but the next size available is really too long, it makes you run the adjuster out to its limit and still there's insufficient tension. Fred said: > >I don't know if the M5 is different from a regular E28 but this trick worked >for me. >Get the belt on as much as you can and have someone give the key a quick turn >to activate the starter briefly. If you have it on in the right direction it >will engage fully. >Need I say BE VERY CAREFUL! >Fred Callender RMC > Jake - 88 M5, not completely stock It's a beautiful day, let's play two! -- Ernie Banks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:22:27 -0800 (PST) From: Andy Peavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Kart endurance race for RMC chapter members I am organizing a 200 lap kart endurance race for Rocky Mountain Chapter members. The race is on Saturday, Feb. 26. The track is at I-70 and Colorado Blvd. We will have random teams of four. Each person will do two shifts of 25 laps. Guaranteed to be a blast! Keep an eye out for the Motorsport Report. It will have details on how to register for the event. The event space is limited, so make sure and register promptly. Andy Peavy 91 535i email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:32:00 -0500 From: "Duane Collie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] The Dribbles >Dribily fluid >I have had this happen quite a few times recently. I have a feeling it >has to do with the outside temperature. When it is warmer it works fine, hits the target perfect with full force. >Seems that when it is colder the passenger side does fine but the driver side >diminishes. The owners manual says the nozzles are heated. But it makes >me wonder if the freeze up is occurring closer to the T pipe? I'm >thinking of trying some various additives. Anyone have any ideas? You guys want me to run with this one? <ROTFLMAO> Nawwwww........<still chuckling>........I could be SO bad with this.....especially the 'freeze up close to the T pipe". Oh baby. Oh. - - Duane Collie <TRYING to be good. But still amused. The Seven Sled ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:55:33 -0800 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Jim and the Compressor Story Ok, so Rob loves the compressor story. I've never used my air compressor very much for filling tires and such. Its such a pain dragging the air hose around. For a long time I've used the portable airtank I bought at Walmart for track use. That little airtank has always worried me. After all, I only paid like $13 for the thing. When you look at the fittings, the airhose, the box, the instructions, the shipping and profit to the manufacturer and Walmart... JUST HOW GOOD COULD THE STEEL AND WELDING BE, ANYWAY? Every time I fill that little POS tank up at the compressor, I have these visions of the thing exploding or blowing the fitting out of the tank and through my head. My whole family knows I have this phobia. Don't tell me you don't all think about this. Ok, maybe its just me. Well one day I'm down to about 40 lbs after filling bike tires so I fire up the compressor and start refilling the tank. I have a small hotdog compressor that takes forever to fill the tank to 125 psi. While waiting and waiting for the tank to fill, I start thinking about that tank exploding. Deep in apprehensive thought, I miss my 14 year old son sneaking up behind me. POW!!!! He pops a puffed up lunch bag behind my head. There are airhoses flying, tanks rolling around, excrement coating every surface in the garage and this son of mine, the fruit of my loins, is laughing like a hyena and I'm chasing him all over the neighborhood. The little booger is on the cross country team so my chances of catching him are nil. Someday I'll get even. I swear. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 23:50:58 -0500 From: Ken W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <OT> Viper alarms - better transmitter casings? I have a Viper 300+ alarm in my M3, and tobe honest, because of the transmitter alone, I would have gotten an Alpine. I absolutely hate the Viper's remote. The stupid buttons get hit so easily that I will arm/disarm often just putting it back into my pocket, or sometimes not even that. I NEVER had these problems with the BMW/Alpine I had on my '97 318ti. Anyone know if a different casing at least I could get for the 2-button Viper remote? Thanks for any suggestions. You would be helping me retain my saninty, if there is any left to begin with... :) - -Ken '91 M3 '86 GTI - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: ScopusFest ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 23:51:44 -0500 From: "Duane Collie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] CCA Elections for VP Yo ! Yeah you ! Did you get out your CCA ballot from the Roundel and VOTE your preference yet for Vice President of our esteemed organization? I've seen very little discussion on the topic, and it does matter who you elect. While it's probably not a real good thing to stand up and declare support for a particular candidate in this forum, the important thing is to VOTE. And ask questions! Hell, three of the candidates are here on this list....don't ya'll have any questions for them at all? Other than, "Why is my Roundel always late?" For example: I would like to know if any of our VP Candidates would support a national standard of qualifications to be a Driving School Instructor, and a database of all qualified instructors to be made available to the various chapter driving school coordinators? Right now, every Chapter pretty much does it's own thing internally , and there is no standardized qualification program that I know of. So when Chapter "A" needs some Instructors, they would be able to contact all Instructors through the database within a given Region.....etc....and pull some Instructors from Chapter "B". And that way as well, a BMWCCA Instructor, once qualified, would be able to teach at all Chapters. Candidates? Another Q for the Candidates: Would any of you support and petition for a Autocross Starting and Training Program for the Chapters? Some Chapters, like National Capital and Windy City, are extremely active in autocross. Other Chapters don't have a clue how to get started. Why not some National CCA Funding on a 50/50 basis for purchasing of timing equipment, cones, etc. to help the other CCA Chapters get started on autocross, and arrange to have experienced pros from NCC and Windy City and the like to help train those Chapters wanting to get started? Autocross is the most fun you can have with a street car without beating it up like a day at the track. Would any of the candidates support this? I think the UUCDIGEST can be put to better use than bashing cops like we have been for the past 10 issues. C'mon gang....do ya care who the guys n' gals are that are steering the Club? - -Duane Collie The Seven Sled ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #160 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Curry's Auto Service . http://www.currysauto.com | Eurosport . http://www.eurosport-hp.com | Koala MotorSport . http://www.koalamotorsport.com | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | The Ultimate Garage . http://www.ultimategarage.com | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com | Zionsville Autosport . http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ����������������������������������������
