[uucdigest] Tuesday, February 1 2000 Volume 03 : Number 164 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: RE: [uuc] replacing rubber seals (E28) [uuc] WTB: E30 325e Alloy Wheels [uuc] <CCA> EVP Elections e-mail addresses [uuc] RACE TIRES ...CHEAP.....16" AND 17" Re:[uuc] WOB SF Bay Area - NB on 880 Saturday Re: [uuc] <ADMIN> CCA Politics on the UUC Digest Re: [uuc] bought the F650 [uuc] Re: cleaning underneath car [uuc] RE: cleaning underneath car [uuc] 8 series still in production? [uuc] Re: cleaning underneath car [uuc] <WOB> March '00 Motor Trend RE: [uuc] 8 series still in production? Re: [uuc] RE: E34 oxygen sensor- again. Re: [uuc] Jim and the Compressor Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:52:58 -0500 From: "Cagann, Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] replacing rubber seals (E28) > Mornin' all, > Just thinking about what DIY project to do on my "new" car. How hard > is it to replace the rubber seals on the trunk and doors? Has anybody > actually, successfully, done this at home? I haven't taken too close > a look, but the seals are permanently glued to the bodywork right? Is > it possible to strip them off and get fresh(er) seals from the junker > or BMW. What would I use to glue them on with? Chris, I have done the trunk twice. Get a new seal from your dealer for about $60. Rip the old one out. Most of it should come out without tearing...but you will have parts that don't want to leave the car. Just a little PITA but it will all come off. Then clean with 3M adhesive remover as best you can. I then put the new seal in its place without glue. Then I bend up areas and apply the glue. Much less messy than applying the glue and then installing the seal. I used 3M trim adhesive, a black mildly runny glue. You won't believe how much thicker and softer a new seal is than your old one. This is definitely something to do on old E28's. Water in the trunk is a problem...rust around the license plate lights is common. This seal and the seals on the tailight boots are notorious E28 rust contributors. > Impressions of driving an E28 from an E21? Much quieter and softer. > Although I feel as if my old 320is had more zing going through the > corners (most definitely). This 528e is a family car alright. My > 320is will track a hell of a lot better! I miss her terribly, and I > wonder how she's doing in the hands of that youngster I sold her to... I don't know if you've driven a 535is or an M5 from this vintage...but they behave very different from the 528e cars. The 528e is a fabulous car but not quick or a very aggressive handler. It gets some great gas mileage! Alex Cagann 88///M5 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 11:08:37 -0500 From: Mark Borchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] WTB: E30 325e Alloy Wheels NEEDED: 2 - OEM alloy wheels for '87 325e... A pothole almost swallowed car! Also WTB a set of 4-E30 325e/i alloy wheels for use on a 2002. Will only consider wheels in very good condition, without any previous damage. Posting for a web-impaired cash buyer located in the Chicago area. TIA! Mark Borchik. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 11:11:38 -0500 From: Filippo Morelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <CCA> EVP Elections e-mail addresses >John Weese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes... >Subject: [uuc] Re: BMW CCA Vice President Voting > >YES Duane, I voted....and I would like to plug getting your vote cards in >like Duane did....BUT I seem to remember alot a flack on the Digest for >discussing CCA Politics in this forum ....so I have refrained...it is a >personal choice after all...we all know the people who are running. I don't >think it serves a purpose to discuss this matter on the Digest. > >Any questions or concerns posted by someone could be responded to >"privately"...and that's the best way IMHO. For any of you that would like to contact the EVP nominees privately and ask any specific questions beyond the candidate statements, here are the e-mails: Scott Blazey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clint DeWitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michel Potheau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Filippo Morelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Filippo ///M ///M ///M ///M ///M ///M ///M www.bimmers.com = = ( ) ( ) = = "Supporting enthusiasts on the Internet!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:35:45 -0500 From: "Will Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RACE TIRES ...CHEAP.....16" AND 17" Hello, I have the following tires for sale: None of the used ones are Junk they all have some potential. 6 x 225/50/16 g force (used for 2 w/c races) $50 ea. 1 x 225/45/17 g force NEW $120 2 x 225/45/17 g force (used 2 w/c races) $50 ea. 4 x 205 50 17 R1's NEW $120 ea All tires do not include shipping. - -Will Will Turner, President Turner Motorsport - -Ultra Hi Performance BMW Specialists- 207 Elm Street, Amesbury MA 01913 978 388-7769 / 978 388 4202 FAX www.Turnermotorsport.com www.TMSracing.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 08:35:46 -0800 From: Greg Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re:[uuc] WOB SF Bay Area - NB on 880 Saturday Lisa, That would have been me on my way to San Francisco... It was a shame about all the traffic, but I do love that looooooong turn before 880 splits off and goes to the bay bridge, which is why I took off. And if you really want to trade cars, SURE! The Dinanstein is currently in the shop receiving a new cat, oil pan gasket and steering rack. It was good seeing you on the road! Greg > So I'm cruising along Northbound 880 near SF on Saturday, enjoying the brief > appearance of the sun, minding my own business, and, hey, what's that up > ahead? Looks interesting...let's go check it out! Black > M3/Dinan/Sharked/roll bar/Nurbergring sticker and as I pull within visual > range a UUC Sticker!!! Hey, it must be someone on the digest - cool! So I > try and catch up...and try and catch up and try and catch up. Who are you > and can we arrange some sort of trade??? Really...my car wouldn't be nearly > as much trouble to maintain! Have a good one - it was nice playing! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:46:10 -0500 From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <ADMIN> CCA Politics on the UUC Digest Rob Levinson wrote: >Whereas I think some important ideas can be expressed to a wide >audience here, I think it is also critical to realize that not all UUC >Digest subscribers are even in the US, let alone particularly interested. Or we could do, as has the next largest BMW marque club in the world (BMW Motorcycle Owners of America) and set up a separate list which they refer to as the BMWMOA list for political and complaint exchanges. They've stirred up a hornet's nest in the last few days by announcing the departure of their Association Manager (their version of an Executive Director), hiring a consultant (late the head of the American Motorcyclists Association who resigned under a firestorm coming out of a legal action against the association), and coming out in support of their once-interim magazine editor (whose husband or son happens to also be the art director). Now you know why they need a separate politics list! <G> I remember over 10 years ago when I proposed a national club standard for driving instructor certification. I was told what a bad idea it was then by certain chapters. You still have today, chapters who do not wish to share their list of instructors with other chapters. Add to that the legal liability which comes from "certification" of an instructor should a school incident result in legal action. Chapters are the foundation of the CCA, read your Ops manual (every chapter has at least one copy and it is also on the CCA Website). Any such impetus for instructor data base proposals will have to come from the chapters. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that just 'cause you read it or posted it to an e-mail digest that the CCA Board or the office read your: praise of how much they helped you; complaint that your Roundel is late; or suggestion for how the club is either mismanaged or could be better managed. Any member's best access is through their elected representatives. Each region has a Regional Vice President whose job it is to represent their chapters to the National Board. Most of these folks began as active participants within their chapters. I would be so bold as to suggest that that is a great starting place for everyone who wants to be active or represent the Club. Begin first with what you can do locally, and within your chapter, to help. If you're already doing this, let me thank you for it, because you probably don't get enough thanks as it is. - -Phil Marx BMW CCA #6021 Presdident, BMW CCA (past, current, not future) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 08:42:53 -0800 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] bought the F650 Well Phil. All I can tell you is that I can certainly afford *ANY* production motorcycle sold on the face of this planet. And this is what I bought. I like it and in lieu of your check being in the mail, this is the BMW, real or not, that I'm driving :) I agree the other bikes are fine examples of the art. But I live where I live and I ride the way I ride. I rode the bike in today and and the ONLY thing I don't like about it so far is that the gear throws are too long. But its because the gear selector is too long too for my dainty size 8 1/2 foot. So being the resourceful guy I am, I'll just make a new shift lever and fix the problem. If UUC wants to branch into bikes, they can have the design. And now, since this list is about cars, I'm done talking about it. Jim Phil Marx wrote: > Jim, > > Rather than the antagonist, consider me the purveyor of factual > information, or if you will in the case of misconceptions regarding the > merits of BMW Boxer design, the flashlight in the darkness of US motorcyle > knowledge. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 08:49:16 -0800 (PST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: cleaning underneath car Larry, I've never had a problem with using the coin-op, clean it yo damn self power washers. There's one in my area that uses heated water. Really does a nice job, the schutz (sp?) coating on the wheelwells and undercarriage comes out looking like new. Keith Way > What is the best way to clean the salt and dirt from underneath your car. > Many car washes will do this but I really don't want to take my car through > one of them. I've considered going to one of those self washing stations > and just sticking the power washer underneath it but I'm afraid of getting > something wet that I shouldn't. Is there any way to get it clean without > getting any of the electronics wet? _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:15:53 -0500 From: "Lin, Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: cleaning underneath car My method for flushing out the underbody: Do not use a pressure washer, possibly floods electrical connections. First sunny day around freezing: Get out hose that was drained before temp fell under freezing. Put nozzle on medium spray. Park car where oily runoff won't bother you. Remember now that salt dissolves in water, so all you need to do is rinse everywhere, don't worry about the dirt still on the car. Do in this order: Rinse off outer body. Flush windshield and cowl area. Flush headlights, grille, brake ducts. Flush under bumpers. Each wheel well: Point hose to right, start at 9 o'clock and work to 3. Point hose to left, go from 3 to 9. Point hose forward, flush struts. Flush brakes behind wheel holes. Open hood, lightly flush rear firewall, wheel arches, radiator and headlights. I also go over the sides of the block, ymmv. Get on knees, flush engine undertray and wheels from the front of the car. Move down both sides, pointing the hose at the driveshaft and exhaust. From rear, flush under trunk, diff, and rear axles. Do not shoot water up exhaust. Disconnect hose and drain fully. Change wet pants. > Gary Lin National Capital Ch. '88 325is street '85 325eis track ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 11:25:55 -0600 From: Michael Weishaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] 8 series still in production? Is the 8 series still in production? A coworker is looking to get one in the near future, and he was under the impression that they are still being produced. I thought they were retired, but I admittedly don't know all that much about it. He only wants to get a new one, he doesn't want to get a used (oops, pre-owned) one. Somewhere in the back of my brain I thought that they were still being produced only for German consumption. Is that the case, and can they still be imported? Any info on this would be greatly appreciated. Michael 88 M3 <-- an 8 series' dingleberry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 08:50:28 -0800 (PST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: cleaning underneath car Larry, I've never had a problem with using the coin-op, clean it yo damn self power washers. There's one in my area that uses heated water. Really does a nice job, the schutz (sp?) coating on the wheelwells and undercarriage comes out looking like new. Keith Way > What is the best way to clean the salt and dirt from underneath your car. > Many car washes will do this but I really don't want to take my car through > one of them. I've considered going to one of those self washing stations > and just sticking the power washer underneath it but I'm afraid of getting > something wet that I shouldn't. Is there any way to get it clean without > getting any of the electronics wet? _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:39:11 -0500 From: "Eric Augustyn (Derivatives)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <WOB> March '00 Motor Trend I know we all hate Motor Trend, but if you have 15 minutes stop by the local bookstore and take a read. Besides having story about tuner stupidity, er, I mean a 650hp, twin turbo, Lingenfelter Vette capable of 226mph (and limited only by the test track turns) there is a great comparo of the M5, XKR, DB7, E55 and the Porsche Carrera. No suprise here but the M5 wins hands down. Eric P.S. for enquiring minds the vette does 0-60 3.3, 0-100 in 6.7. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 09:45:05 -0800 From: "Chen, Philip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] 8 series still in production? Production for the US market has stopped. However, if your co-worker look hard enough, he may be able to find a "new" 8er still. Being that they weren't great sellers. For example, Crevier BMW (in Santa Ana CA) had (haven't checked recently) a brand spanking new 850Ci sitting in their showroom for a while. Yes, it's not 1999 or 2000, but it's brand new... Phil 99 Esto M3/2 (So it doesn't have individual throttles, I still like driving it!) ;-) ---------- From: Michael Weishaar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 9:26 AM To: bmwuucdigest Subject: [uuc] 8 series still in production? Is the 8 series still in production? A coworker is looking to get one in the near future, and he was under the impression that they are still being produced. I thought they were retired, but I admittedly don't know all that much about it. He only wants to get a new one, he doesn't want to get a used (oops, pre-owned) one. Somewhere in the back of my brain I thought that they were still being produced only for German consumption. Is that the case, and can they still be imported? Any info on this would be greatly appreciated. Michael 88 M3 <-- an 8 series' dingleberry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:53:19 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: E34 oxygen sensor- again. Most auto parts stores will sell you a universal 4 wire sensor, about $50-$60. Even the Ford sensor has to be spliced so just get the universal model. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > After tracking down the infamous Mustang three wire sensor > (Bosch13942), I > > discovered to my horror that my 535 has a FOUR wire sensor - and > what a > > great location! > > > > So, any ideas on universal four wire units, or am I stuck > with -GULP- the > * proper one??? > > George ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:12:33 -0500 From: Jeff Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Jim and the Compressor Story Dean Boucouras writes: >The tank seems sturdy, but my feeble >brain has one more thing to worry about. I enjoyed Jim's story too but I don't think you have much to worry about. As I mentioned when we were discussing the compressor that hadn't been drained--and the owners subsequent concern about that tank being unsafe--150 psi isn't a lot of pressure. The tank might start to leak but it's not going to explode with deadly force. I would be concerned about the quality of the hose and chuck and how well they're attached. I'd make sure it's secure and consider replacing the hose and fittings if you're not happy with them. Once again, the result is most likely to be a leak but a hose bursting or chuck flying off could damage your paint or--as your mom always asserted--put an eye out. Of course that's why you wear safety glasses when working with air tools. :-) jeff == Jeffrey A. Berg Purple Shark Media Rowayton, CT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ovlr.org/jberg/ BMW CCA #162528 Empire Rover Owners Society #000002 '95 318is "The Shark" (sharked) '67 Series IIa 88" "FINSUP" "Looking for a smart woman in a real short skirt." --J. 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