[uucdigest]         Tuesday, February 1 2000         Volume 03 : Number 165



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] RE: BMW mags
       [uuc] E36 M3 O2 Sensor--Result
       [uuc] E36 parts deals...a few E30 things..not much
       [uuc] lightweight wheel recommendation?
       [uuc] Re: E28 Fan Clutch
       Re: [uuc] Jim and the Compressor Story
       [uuc] FW: E34 M5 for sale
       [uuc] California Traffic Laws (was bought the F650)
       [uuc] FW: M5 and other BMW brakes
       [uuc] FW: E34 door weight
       [uuc] E30 325iC ABS fault
       [uuc] BMW's and snow
       [uuc] Lightweight Brakes
       [uuc] Re: 8 series still in production?
       Re: [uuc] E30 325iC ABS fault

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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:17:56 -0500 
From: "Binder, Larry - Paoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: BMW mags

also: Performance BMW

Larry
97 318i

Mech Designer/Draftsman
Synthes Spine

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Binder, Larry - Paoli 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 1:17 PM
> To:   '3 series'; '318ti list'; 'uuc bmw'
> Subject:      BMW mags
> 
> Since there are so many magazines dedicated to bimmers it's hard to decide
> which ones to subscribe to.  You can even get some of the Euro ones here.
> Does anyone know where I can go and see a list of all of the magazines
> that deal with BMW's? Here are the ones that I know of so far:
> 
> Bimmer
> BMW Power
> BMW Car
> Roundel
> 
> Which ones am i missing?
> 
> Larry
> 97 318i
> 
> Mech Designer/Draftsman
> Synthes Spine
> 
> *************************************************************************
> The opinions and statements expressed above are mine, and do not reflect
> that of my employer.
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:48:45 -0600 
From: Darling Christopher AMC/CEOP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] E36 M3 O2 Sensor--Result

Here's the result of my trials and tribulations with my failed O2 sensor for
my 95 M3 (72K miles).  

As I indicated in my previous post, this is the third "Check Engine"
indication I've received in about two months.  Newbold BMW in O' Fallon, IL
checked the entire sensor circuit and swapped a new sensor in-and-out
several times and compared voltages.  They confirmed the old sensor, albeit
only about a month old, was in fact dead.  The service rep then called BMW
Technical to ask if they had seen any such "rash" of O2 sensors failing in
these engines, but this had not been observed.  He could offer no
explanation as to why the part failed again, since there are no other
indications for any problems in the engine.  I was happy with their
initiative to figure out the gremlin.  Bottom line, a new sensor was
installed free of charge, along with a promise if it happens again to have
the regional factory mechanic look at it.  So my fingers will stay crossed
with O2 Sensor #4!
 ---------------------- end.   
Cod
Capt Chris Darling
HQ AMC/CEOP
DSN 576-5930, Comm (618)256-5930

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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:03:11 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] E36 parts deals...a few E30 things..not much

Hey everyone,

  This is pretty much the last shop cleaning we are doing before the 2000 
racing season gets underway.  We are knee deep in getting ready to go World 
Challenge racing, so getting alot of this stuff out of the way will make a 
big difference in how well I can do my job of keeping ProParts growing and 
let T.C. work on the race cars.  So here goes nothing.

1. Engines
  a.  3.0L Euro engine.  Fresh ARJ rebuild to Motorola Cup specs.  Engine is 
complete with headers, wiring harness, computers, intake, and all the other 
bits.  $10,000.00

  b.  3.0L US engine.  Fresh ARJ rebuild on OBD1 engine.  Complete with Grp.N 
cams.  $7300.00
  
  c.  3.0L US M3 CSL engine.  As new, less than 1k miles, then pulled for 
euro engine.  absolutly perfect.  In crate, ready to go.  $6300.00

2.  Wheels

  a. Racing Dynamics 15x7 E30 4 lug, new in boxes   $900.00 for the set
  b.  Racing Dynamics 17x8 E30 M3  new in boxes.  $1200.00/set  Will make 
good deal on new Yoko AVS Int. tires for these wheels.
  c.  Forgeline 17x9 forged 5 spokes for E36 with NEW BFG GForce R1 tires.  
Wheels have less than 500 miles on them.  $2200.00
  d.  Forgeline 17x8 forged 5 spokes.  Refurbished, but not qtip perfect.  
$250.00ea
  e.  Speedline Mistral Ultra Light  16x8  will not fit M3, new in boxes  
$200.00 ea
  f.  Schnitzer 18x8.5  w/ Michelin MXX3 235/35/18 tires.  Mounted and 
balanced, but  never mounted on car.  List is over $3800.00, but we'll 
dispose of @ $2800.00

3.  Misc. Parts
  a.  Stromung 318ti exhaust, new  $325.00  not stainless
  b. Dinan E36 airbox, new, but covered in silver heat sheilding.  Make offer
  c  Schnitzer 318ti short shift kit.  no knob, used.  Make offer
  d.  Schnitzer front winglets for M3 lux front air dam  new, make offer
  e.  E36 M3 Cryo treated Brembo rotors, 2 new sets.  $250.00/pair  Cryo 
treating is the way!!
  f.  Recaro Pole Position seat.  Used less than 1 season.  Will include 
mounts and sliders

Cars

  a.  95 M3 SCCA T2 car,  Rolled at Mid Ohio .  Will need new tub to rebuild, 
but is complete.  $8000.00
  b.  M3 Motorsport Body shell.  Purchased new from BMW Motorsport.  Has no 
undercoating or body plast.  Includes hood and Aluminum doors. $8000.00, or 
will package with above rolled M3 for $15,000.00 
  c.  BMW 2.0L super touring car.  Built by McLaren (the F1 people), driven 
by Randy Pobst, Johnny Checotto, and several other famous touring car 
drivers.  Super Trick, 35k worth of PI data systems, will win EVERY club 
race, or dominate in vintage racing.  we're giving it away @ $80,000..we need 
the room

  Well kids, that's about it.  If you are looking for something special, 
don't hesitate to drop me an email and I will see what I can do.  I'll look 
forward to finding good, loving homes for all of this stuff.  Thanks for 
playing, no ditching, and eat your vegetables.

Brian Leib
t.c.kline racing/www.ProPartsUSA.net

  

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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:34:54 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] lightweight wheel recommendation?

I hope I'm not reviving an old, dead thread here, folks, but I'm shopping around for a 
set of lightweight 17" wheels for track/autox use on an E36 (yes, like another 
digester recently referred to, I have a bit of an obsession with wheel weight and 
unsprung weight in general).

Of course, there's a wrinkle in the plan (isn't there always?) and I'm trying to stick 
to a budget of around $300 per wheel max (otherwise, I'd simply pick up the phone and 
call Fikse!)

So, having said that, I'm looking at either Borbet type E's (~20 lbs, $229) or SSR 
Integrals (~16 lbs, $309).  Prices and weights are according to the TireRack. I know 
that Borbet makes a decent product, but SSR is new to me.  Does anyone have any 
experience with either of these manufacturers/wheels, or even better, recommendations 
of other candidates?  Looks are NOT the key consideration here... (although I draw the 
line at those Teddy Bears Duane was thinking of installing on the Seven Sled...  :-)  
Price and weight are the most important variables.  Any advice would be much 
appreciated.

Thanks!
Felipe.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
'93 325is

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Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 19:34:46 GMT
From: "John G.Burns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: E28 Fan Clutch

> My uncle has a '88 528e.  He ordered a fan clutch from the dealer, and it
> came.  Problem is that the clutch is "larger" then the original one.  It
> will mount up, but the fan will be "pushed" closer to the radiator.  Is this
> a new superceded part and is it suppose to be like that? The original
> clutch is a behr.

Have you put the fan on facing backwards? If you do then it
won't fit back in as it's mounted about 15mm further
forward. Fitting the fan backwards is of course a very
stupid thing to do, ask me how I found this out....

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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], John G.Burns B.Eng, Bonny Scotland
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Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 11:37:26 -0600
From: mromani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Jim and the Compressor Story

Wait till his wedding day and then hire a male stripper to stand up and say
Jim junior is his lover when the minister asks "does anyone know why this
couple should not be married."  Of course if you need to you can change the
sexes if Jim Jr turns out to be..... well you know.

But I think the chances of that are pretty slim.

Marco

Jim Powell wrote:

>
>
> Someday I'll get even.  I swear.
>
> Jim

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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:53:28 -0600 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] FW: E34 M5 for sale

> Gentle Digesters:
> 
> Spotted a black M5 on a small car lot this morning here in Houston. Will
> be goin over to check it out and get a VIN.  Anyone interested in what I
> find can email me offline.
> 
> By the way, did anyone see my post on polishing brake calipers and then
> painting them with a clear coat 'o somthin?  I didn't see it. Anyone have
> thoughts on this process?  Are the calipers an aluminum alloy?  Would the
> Wurth wheel clear coat hold up to daily driving?
> 
> Robert Blakeney
> '90 535i
> 

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Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 12:08:46 -0800
From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] California Traffic Laws (was bought the F650)

technically you can't pass unless all of your vehicle fits within the
lane you are using.  So you would pass on the left of a car but stay in
the same lane with it.  Yeah, right.

But hey, I never said it made sense.  But I'm willing to take advantage
of any law that gets me down the road quicker.  Considering I barely pay
attention to traffic laws that *DO* make sense, I'm the wrong guy to ask
the why and wherefore of the legal system.

Passed 3 cops on the right this morning while they were stuck in
traffic.  On the right side.  It didn't even phase them.  Considering
'most' drivers tend to favor the left portion of their lane, most open
space is on the right side.  Why they wrote the law for the left side is
beyond me.  Nor do I much care.  If the cops don't enforce that rule,
considering all the other stupid stuff they do pull you over for, it
must be a really insignificant thing.

BTW, these laws out here are not specifically for motorcycles.  You can
drive a pair of Honda Civics side by side in a single highway lane if
you don't take up more than that one lane.  Amazing huh?  Anything to
keep the beast that is California traffic actually moving.

Jim

"Stan Jackson Jr." wrote:
> 
> Jim,
> 
>      There is either a problem with the wording of the law or with your description 
>of the law.  If you are only supposed to pass on the driver's side of vehicles, how 
>in the hell do you drive between lanes?  By definition you would be passing cars on 
>your left (as well as right)!
> 
> Stan
>

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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 15:13:34 -0500 
From: "Phemister, George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] FW: M5 and other BMW brakes

- ----------
<<<<"Thomas, Andrew j"  responds to Greg:
Subject: [uuc] RE: M5 Brakes (long-ish)

I doubt any 1800 kg saloon of similar ilk would withstand being driven
around the 'ring at what approximates to race speed. I can think of no car -
save for stripped-out, race-ready 911s of yore - that would stand up to such
abuse (abuse as defined by the terms of the factory warranty and owner's
manual). >>>>>>snip>>>>>>>

I can't comment on the M5 brakes, but I have spent some time at the Ring,
flogging a variety of stock Bimmers around for hours on end, and I never had
reason to complain about brakes on the old circuit. On the newer GP circuit,
I was able to get the fronts smoking on a new series 520, but that was after
many full tilt laps. 

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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 15:14:08 -0500 
From: "Phemister, George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] FW: E34 door weight

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I need to take the driver's door off my E34, and I'm wondering if I can lift
it myself. Does anyone have an idea of weight, or past experience?
Alternatively, is there a way to change the hinge bushings without taking
the door off?

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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 15:19:42 -0500 
From: "Olsen, Mike (Morse TEC Ithaca)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] E30 325iC ABS fault

Symptoms: ABS light comes on and goes out with all other idiot lights on
starting the car.  I can push the brake pedal while not moving and nothing
will light.  After car starts forward motion and I get to the end of the
driveway, the ABS light comes on and stays on for the remainder of the
drive.  Tested it on a snowy lot (not difficult to find right now in Central
NY) and definitely do not have functioning ABS.  Once the snow stops I plan
to look around underneath for a broken sensor wire or gunk around the pickup
wheels.  I checked Bentley, but he doesn't have anything to say beyond this.
I have heard something in the past about checking some relay with a fuse on
it or something like that.  Does this ring a bell with anyone?  Anything
else somebody with basic tools can check before bringing it in?

Thanks,
Mike Olsen
'88 ///M3
'88 325iC

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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 15:32:56 -0500 
From: "Pharr, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] BMW's and snow

I know this is a topic that has been beaten to death several times over but
I just had to relate this story.

I was waiting in line behind a bunch of cars at a drive through window here
in Northern VA this afternoon.  The two recent storms have dumped about 18"
of snow in an area that is not known for efficient snow removal.  Let's just
say that this fast food parking lot was about half hard packed snow and half
glacial ice pack.  Each time a car left the food window I got quite a show
as the other cars inched forward.  

First was a jacked up Jeep Wrangler on bald, balloon tires.  The driver had
to rock the vehicle several times to get it moving and then it would slide
sideways when the brakes were applied.  Next up was an Explorer on all
seasons.  Lots of wheel spin and nearly as much motion sideways as forward,
but it could stop more quickly than the Jeep.  The entertainment champ, was
the FWD Escort on worn out all seasons.  He would saw at the wheel with his
foot way in the gas, resulting in a spectacular shower of snow.  Next, two
construction workers would jump out of a FWD minivan and help push the thing
one car length forward before jumping back inside.  And finally, some clown
(me) with an old, 'they suck in the snow' E28 535 on nearly worn out
Blizzacks and 200 lb. of sand in the trunk would put it in gear and
effortlessly inch forward and stop on a dime.  

Before leaving the parking lot with my food, I watched a new Probe slowly
slide backward and come gently to rest against another parked car.  Looked
like it had some nice all seasons on it, too.  My 5'er just tiptoed right
around the carnage and I was out of there.

So there you have it.  FWD and AWD won't do you much good if you don't have
rubber designed for the snow.  And barely passable snow tires can transform
an otherwise crummy snow car into a decent way to get around.

Thus ends today's lesson (for those of you not already in the choir).  

BTW: I have a decent set of 4 Pirelli P210 snows, 205/55/16 (I think), that
I need to get rid of.  Can be had for cheap.  Anyone?

- --Jeff Pharr
'86 535i  <- good snow car
'89 325iX <- really good snow car

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Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:31:43 -0500
From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Lightweight Brakes

For folks looking for the latest in braking technology, there is talk in
Europe of popular brake kits (BMW, Audi, etc) based on Porsche's new
ceramic rotors.  Production will not commence until after the 996 turbo is
officially released in Europe (I think the ceramic brakes will be an $8-10k
option on these cars).   Disks are likely to be 350x32mm.  Pads will have
special stainless steel backings. Calipers will probably be yellow.  

Do you need this brake setup on your street car.....absolutely not!  As
ceramic brake rotors currently cost 4000dm each, realize this setup will be
very expensive.  The rotors are approx 1/2 the weight of similar size cast
iron disks and should have a much longer life.  This all comes at a premium
which is likely to be a popular option for customers of Porsche's new
flagship vehicle.  SD
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Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage
201-262-0412 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.ultimategarage.com

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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:35:27 -0800 (PST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Re: 8 series still in production?

If I'm not mistaken (which I probably am), the 8 series was still being
produced for non US markets up until fairly recently. Like less than a year
ago? The E-31 was never very well recieved on these shores. Thought to be
too heavy, gimmicky, etc. But from what I can surmise, it didn't recieve all
that kind of flak overseas. Look in BMW Car (U.K. mag) and you'll see 8
series cars throughout, even if only in advertisements. Personally, I like
'em. I'd even "settle" for an 840 if the opportunity ever came about.
Keith Way

  
>  Is the 8 series still in production?  A coworker is looking to get one
>  in the near future, and he was under the impression that they are still
>  being produced.  I thought they were retired, but I admittedly don't
>  know all that much about it.  He only wants to get a new one, he doesn't
>  want to get a used (oops, pre-owned) one.
>  
>  Somewhere in the back of my brain I thought that they were still being
>  produced only for German consumption.  Is that the case, and can they
>  still be imported?





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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 15:43:08 -0500
From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 325iC ABS fault

The first step should be to glance at the wires to the sensors on all four
wheels.  If they're intact, go to each wheel and pull out the sensor (takes
a small allen key but I don't remember what size) and clean off the built up
metal shavings on them all.  Many times that will fix you right up.

Geeeze
'84 Chevy Suburban 4x4 turbo diesel (for sale - don't get stuck in the
snow!)

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Olsen, Mike (Morse TEC Ithaca) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Symptoms: ABS light comes on and goes out with all other idiot lights on
> starting the car.  I can push the brake pedal while not moving and nothing
> will light.  After car starts forward motion and I get to the end of the
> driveway, the ABS light comes on and stays on for the remainder of the
> drive.

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