[uucdigest] Friday, February 4 2000 Volume 03 : Number 188 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] BMW's vibrant aftermarket dept. Re: [uuc] BMW's vibrant aftermarket dept. - apologies Re: [uuc] BMW rental in FL?? [uuc] Supercharge install [uuc] <E36> ! Ticking lifter ! Re: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] coloured wheels [uuc] <E30> Spoiler Conversion 86 -> 88 Re: [uuc] Big Honking Wabbit Re: [uuc] Big Honking Wabbit [uuc] 94 540i, Petroleum or synthetic [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] riceboy question Re: [uuc] 94 540i, Petroleum or synthetic [uuc] <E46> M3 Buying Info. Comments? Re: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] riceboy question [uuc] E36 M3 Rear Subframe Re: [uuc] <E46> M3 Buying Info. Comments? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 00:14:09 -0800 From: "Jonathan Reiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] BMW's vibrant aftermarket dept. I couldn't help but notice the familiar legalese tagline at the bottom of your email....... a fellow KPMGer! Which division and segment are you in? Jonathan Reiser Manager, Communications and Content Practice KPMG Consulting LLP. Silicon Valley Office www.kpmgconsulting.com (and a '97 328ic and '95 M3) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas, Andrew j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 10:18 PM Subject: [uuc] BMW's vibrant aftermarket dept. > Rob ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: > > > As David Chen informed me, 7-series could be ordered with > > body-colored "throwing star" covers on the 17" wheels. > > Oh crumbs, I'd forgotten about those. I remember seeing a red 850CSi in the > Park Lane (London) dealership with the throwing-star covers painted in red. > I think the rest of the rim was silver. I had a Barry White tune going on in > my head as I checked out the phat bodykit and white leather interior. > > > But being a factory option doesn't make it tasteful... > > You speak my mind. While much of it is drool-worthy and not available > outside Germany (there are some lovely alloys available which you never see > on the streets), some of the stuff in the brochure beggars belief. Most of > the M dress-up bodykits and Motorsport 17" alloys are shown off attached to > 318tds tourings. Sure to annoy the bejesus out of many of you :). I guess > the dealer-fit, two-tone leather trim - not an "Individual" option, so may > be easily available in the US - could be had in some tasteful colour combos. > Black with a dark blue inlay might look good in a silver-grey 3 coupe, but > lemon yellow and green? Niiiiiice. > > Other visual "delights" include one thing I didn't know of - BMW offers > factory-approved, three-spoke 17" alloy wheels. Apologies to those with only > three spokes in their wheels, but where ah cum from, three-spoke alloys are > usually attached to lowered hot hatches with coffee-can exhaust pipes. Or > Saabs. > > Andy T > > "This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity > named above and may contain information that is confidential and > privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this > email is strictly prohibited. When addressed to our clients, any > opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms > and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement > letter. If you have received this email in error, please notify us > immediately by return email or telephone +61 2 9335 7000 and destroy > the original message. Thank you." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 00:21:18 -0800 From: "Jonathan Reiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] BMW's vibrant aftermarket dept. - apologies That meant to be sent directly to the recipient..... didn't notice that when you reply it auto sends to the digest as opposed to the original sender. Sorry for the WOB. Interesting mailing list system Majordomo is running. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 04:05:44 -0500 From: "Mike Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] BMW rental in FL?? >Does anyone know if there is a place near Orlando that rents BMW's? I have >to go there next week and will be leaving both my bimmers here in Michigan. >Actually, I would prefer a BMW but any European car will do. I am just >really sick of all the typical American and Japennesse cars most rental >places have. >Eniac Well, Most Hertz places have Volvo sedans, which is better than the usual fare.. You'll have to go a specialty place to get a BMW, I bet. Mike Dean ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 06:32:11 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Supercharge install I am going to be helping a friend install a downing atlanta supercharger this weekend on his wife's 318ti. Is there anything that we need to know. Any hints? How much time should we allow for this? How bad am I going to want one for my M3 after I feel the difference on the ti? Please e-mail me. TIA, Tony '95 M3 '00 Explorer ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 07:04:34 -0500 From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E36> ! Ticking lifter ! Over the last couple days, my E36 325i has been a little wheezy starting up in the sub freezing weather. Seemed a reasonable sign of its 143k, plus everything quieted down at operating temps. Last night, as I was coming home from work, the noise level changed, and when I checked under the hood at home, I heard what I'm pretty sure is a "ticking lifter," a rapping noise under the spark plug cover that turns to a grinding kind of noise when I blip the throttle. The car also seems to have developed a bit of an appetite for Oil (a quart in the last 1k when it really didn't use any til then). Questions: Has anyone been here with an E36? Bad lifter? Bad valve? Anything to do while I have that part of the motor open? Thanks, Marc Plante E36 325i, 143k (09/93 build) Alexandria, VA Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 04:29:34 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Yip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] coloured wheels I think that color was known as Blaze Orange or Safety Orange. The only known problem with those wheels is that the color seems to attract cones. - --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I seem to recall some orange wheels at Pizzafest II. Were those a > factory > color? ===== Matthew Yip [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/mgyip/ '87 GTi 16v - x2 '88 M5 '99 F350 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 07:41:29 -0500 From: "Neil Deshpande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E30> Spoiler Conversion 86 -> 88 I'm in the process of attempting this conversion. I have the spoiler/valence/nose panel from an 89 iS and will trying to fit it to an 89 iC. The 89 iC had a old spoiler. As and when I actually get down to doing it I'll post the results to the List. This may take some time as I'm working on my 88 iS at this time and still need to paint the spoiler the color of the iC. I am also going to add the 'nicer' plastic bumpers and the rear skirt. These I do not have yet. The latter will require welding from what I can see. Neil Deshpande 1988 325 iS 1989 325 iC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 07:50:10 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Big Honking Wabbit Kevin wrote: >That weren't no cute WIDDLE wabbit. That was a pretty big honker. Hopefully it >went fast. That Mercedes had to have been moving pretty fast. Anyone know who was piloting that Mercedes? I've heard it was one of the current CART drivers but can't remember who? Carlos 91 M3 hit a pig once ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 08:14:26 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Big Honking Wabbit I believe it was the future Mr. Ashley Judd (Dario Franchitti - sp?). saw it in some tabloid the other day while waiting in line. (the Ashley Judd part obviously). Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Kevin wrote: > >That weren't no cute WIDDLE wabbit. That was a pretty big honker. > Hopefully it > >went fast. That Mercedes had to have been moving pretty fast. > > Anyone know who was piloting that Mercedes? I've heard it was one of the > current CART drivers but can't remember who? > > Carlos > 91 M3 hit a pig once ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:21:43 -0500 From: "Tim Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] 94 540i, Petroleum or synthetic When I bought my 94 540i in December it had 58K. I just turned 61K and I'm about to change the oil. Is it advisable, hell is it even safe, to switch to synthetic at this stage of the game? There's nothing in the previous owners records to suggest that anything other than good ole dino juice was used in the car. Tim T ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:25:28 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] riceboy question it offends me when people refer to Asian descended people or owners of Japanese autos as "riceboy". several of my friends are Asian and they are "top notch". i think we could all be mature enough not to stoop to name calling or using generalities that sort people by where they (or their families) were born. i do think some of the things done on some cars (from every type of people) are very silly/loud/obnoxious, etc. looking, but that is not a reason to use a slang word that is offensive to a race of people. put yourselves in their place and imagine how it feels. there are plenty of other adjectives that could be used without implying that people from aisa are "tacky" or have less taste than __________(insert your heritage here). ok,, enough on my soapbox.,,, but since someone asked, i felt the need to share. tommy- the drag racing crusader for Christ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 05:26:14 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Yip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] 94 540i, Petroleum or synthetic I think this issue has been beaten to death several hundred thousand times BUT there's no "risk" in switching to synthetic oils at any time after break-in. Some cars even come with synthetic oil as the factory fill. The only "risk" is that the synthetic oil, which flows much better than organic oil, will find pin-hole leaks and start to ooze. - --- Tim Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I bought my 94 540i in December it had 58K. I just turned 61K > and I'm > about to change the oil. Is it advisable, hell is it even safe, to > switch to > synthetic at this stage of the game? There's nothing in the > previous owners > records to suggest that anything other than good ole dino juice was > used in > the car. ===== Matthew Yip [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/mgyip/ '87 GTi 16v - x2 '88 M5 '99 F350 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 08:26:36 -0500 From: "Neil Deshpande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E46> M3 Buying Info. Comments? A co-worker wants to buy the E46 M3 and is required to put down a $500 deposit that is non-refundable. Since the price of the car is un-announced and appears to be on the edge of what he believes he would like to pay, he is not certain he would want to buy it when the time comes to buy. To be honest, I'm not sure how this deposit business works, having bought all my cars with cashier's checks so I thought I would ask the List. Does the collective wisdom of the List believe it will be difficult/impossible to sell the 'reservation' of whatever the deposit buys you if one does not want to buy the car? I should point out that the aim of this reservation is not to make a profit like some new E39 M5 owners. This person has been agonizing over this decision - E46 M3, E39 540i 6-sp, etc. - for months. Thanks. Neil Deshpande 1988 325 iS 1989 325 iC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 05:38:58 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Yip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] riceboy question Some of us Asians don't have such thin skins as to think that the term applies to us. We KNOW we're not into the big exhaust tips, 19" chromed wheels, or silly stickers that merely draw attention to our lack of class. - --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > it offends me when people refer to Asian descended people or > owners of > Japanese autos as "riceboy". several of my friends are Asian and > they are > "top notch". ===== Matthew Yip [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/mgyip/ '87 GTi 16v - x2 '88 M5 '99 F350 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 07:49:02 -0600 From: Darling Christopher AMC/CEOP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E36 M3 Rear Subframe I think I remember hearing rumors of possible weakness in the "rear subframe" (?) of E36 M3s. My car is a 95 model, and while it has been over a year since my last track time (due to an extended vacation in Korea), I wonder if I need to check this out before the autocross/driving school season starts. Any advice? I do have access to a lift, so is this something I can check myself? What should I look for? TIA. ___________ end Cod Capt Chris Darling HQ AMC/CEOP DSN 576-5930, Comm (618)256-5930 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:21:54 -0500 From: "Bill Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E46> M3 Buying Info. Comments? Neil, I think the answer to all these questions is it depends entirely on the dealer that has your co-workers deposit. Not only what is in writing but is this dealer one of the good guys (trustworthy) or one that deserves the name "stealer". I can see why a dealer would put "nonrefundable" in the contract to keep out the gadflies but also not hold you to it as long as he can move the car. The bottom line is you can't absolutely depend on any thing that is not spelled out in the sales contract. My own experience with my M5. I put down $1K on 12/4/98 with a guarantee of a final price of MSRP on delivery and a stipulation of another $4k down when the car was scheduled for production. My contract did not specify that the deposit is either refundable or nonrefundable but a separate section in the contract that outlines specific $ damage amount if the buyer backs out was left blank. I went back in Oct 99 to pick out color and trim for a week 49 production date. When I went to write them the check for the $4k additional deposit, they told me they didn't need it! Picked up the car 12/28/99, paid the balance. OUCH. Dealer did not require either cashiers or certified check. Since I hadn't ever dealt with this dealer before the backup position I had formulated in my own mind if I didn't buy the car was in order, apply the deposit to the M Coupe I was also lusting after, try and get The $ back, or walk away from it and chalk it up to the cost of another expensive life experience. YM (and utility of $ curve) MV. Bill Matthews Hockessin DE 00 MGeeze - 12/99 Build thru Otto's BMW West Chester PA to my driveway 12/28/99 3 Volvos - 1 old, 1 fast, 1 hers From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > A co-worker wants to buy the E46 M3 and is required to put down a $500 deposit that is non-refundable. Since the price of the car is un-announced and appears to be on the edge of what he believes he would like to pay, he is not certain he would want to buy it when the time comes to buy. > > To be honest, I'm not sure how this deposit business works, having bought all my cars with cashier's checks so I thought I would ask the List. > > Does the collective wisdom of the List believe it will be difficult/impossible to sell the 'reservation' of whatever the deposit buys you if one does not want to buy the car? > > I should point out that the aim of this reservation is not to make a profit like some new E39 M5 owners. This person has been agonizing over this decision - E46 M3, E39 540i 6-sp, etc. - for months. ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #188 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Curry's Auto Service . http://www.currysauto.com | Eurosport . http://www.eurosport-hp.com | Koala MotorSport . http://www.koalamotorsport.com | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | The Ultimate Garage . http://www.ultimategarage.com | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com | Zionsville Autosport . http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ����������������������������������������
