[uucdigest] Friday, February 4 2000 Volume 03 : Number 193 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] Rice Re: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] riceboy question RE: [uuc] Rice RE: [uuc] RE: riceboy question Re: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] riceboy question [uuc]my mildly smartass remark RE: [uuc] Oh, Gawd! Not the Riceboy topic again! Re: [uuc] <E46> M3 Buying Info. Comments? [uuc] RE: Oktoberfest preparations ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 13:35:16 -0600 From: Michael Weishaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Rice To quote Willy on The Simpsons.... "Cheese eatin' surrender monkeys" Michael Matthew Yip wrote: > > Baguette Boys. And it's Peugeot > > --- "Binder, Larry - Paoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about Renault, and Pugeut (sp?) > > ===== > Matthew Yip > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.geocities.com/mgyip/ > > '87 GTi 16v - x2 > '88 M5 > '99 F350 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 11:36:13 -0800 From: Jim Ochi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] riceboy question At 08:03 AM 2/4/00 -0700, Renny Lutz wrote: > > My personal opinion (<----- key word there) is that a riceboy is any >person regardless of Race, Religion, Gender, or National Origin that does >things to their automobile that make it seem or appear to be faster but >actually have no real performance value or a negligible performance value. > Hmmmm....lessee....on my E36 M3: K&N Filter - negligible HP gain Debaffled airbox - negligible HP gain Euro Snorkel - negligible HP gain AA Exhaust -negligible HP gain White corner lights - negligible performance gain White side lights - negligible performance gain White rear lights - negligible performance gain Dinan Strut Brace - negligible performance gain Short Shifter - negligible performance gain (but more fun...) Damn, damn, damn. Guess that makes me a riceboy!! :-((( Jim Ochi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:45:32 -0500 From: "Cagann, Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Rice > I've seen some of the older series III Jags in and around Andrews Air > Farce Base with the 3-spoke Anteras - chrome ones, no less. > Remember, these cars ARE British - they mark their territory with > grease and oil which is more than fitting for a fish & chips special. IMO, Jag's are already fully "gauded" out by the factory. Way too much chrome, wood, and fancy decorations everywhere. Even the logo is butt ugly. Yuck. Alex Cagann 88///M5 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:45:13 -0500 From: "Binder, Larry - Paoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] RE: riceboy question Chester, I agree with you that most of the cars that I see on the road that, as everyones been saying, have a "riceboy" look are ugly and lack good taste. One thing that you have to remember is that not everyone has enough money to buy an M3. So if they like the way that the M3 looks I don't think that there would anything wrong with them putting M3-style bumpers/wings on the car. The only thing that bothers me is when they put the M3 logo on the back. When poeple do that they are attempting to trick everyone into thinking that they have an M3. Thats just insulting. When I bought my 318i I needed a car with a warranty, was fun to drive, reliable and got good gas mileage. I probably could have bought a new accord or camry but I like the styling and handling of the BMW, so i bought one. If I want to color code my trim, put a (useless, as you've stated) touring wing on the back, put a vinyl strip across my windshield, have one wiper and put a sport suspension in, why should anyone else care? I know that my car is not going to make any land speed records or corner half as good as an M3 but its fun to drive and i like how it looks. I don't mean that I've totally given up on engine mods, I plan on getting a cold air intake and a Dinan or Jim C. chip, but to me the way something looks is almost as important as how it handle and rides. Believe me, no one on this list would be all proud of their cars, driving them all over the place if it looked like an 87' doge omni. (My car was hit in the back by one of these this morning) (for the few people that would, when I said no one, I didn't mean you =)) >The same thing goes for those who own a 318i and modify the external stuff to >look like an M3. Larry 97 318i ("ricecar?") Mech Designer/Draftsman Synthes Spine ************************************************************************* The opinions and statements expressed above are mine, and do not reflect that of my employer. ************************************************************************* > -----Original Message----- > From: Chester Wong [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 1:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] RE: riceboy question > > Hmmmm....can't we all just get along? =) > > It's really strange that anyone (of asian decent or otherwise) would get > offended by the term. Perhaps it's just because I'm confident in myself > and I > like to do things with a tasteful manner. > > So lessee....what do I consider a riceboy? Anyone who: > - has a low performance car put blue lights in the turn signals and > headlights > (that actually hinder nighttime vision and annoy the hell out of other > motorists) > - puts a wing on the car that is all show (and it usually more than 6 > inches > high) and doesn't do damn for performance or if it did, it would be so > unbalanced that at actualy high speed, would probably make the car lose > control > because there was no downforce in the front (remember, if you put the LTW > wing > on with the spacers, you need to put the snow plow front splitters > on....but > that's only if you're serious about performance and racing). > - puts huge slabs of vinyl on the body panels. Do you think anyone takes > you > seriously with those stickers? Pulease! If I go to a fancy place and > pull up > in my non-stickered (save for the 'lil shark on the window) car, I > wouldn't be > humiliated at all. Now place myself in a car that has swooping racing > stripes; > Chinese characters up the wazoo; etc; etc, I would feel way stupid in a > formal > event. Now, I would understand if you were factory sponsered and stuff > - puts huge slabes of vinyl of products that you don't even have installed > in > the car! Putting a stupid "Type-R" sticker to make up for the fact that > your > car isn't? That's just plain stupid. > - puts a 6" diameter exhaust on the car. Hmmmm.....my car get's perfect > performance from two 2.25" (or was it 2.5") outlets. I don't think a 4 > banger > 1.5 liter engine that originally had a 3/4" exhaust outlet will face that > much > back pressure with a 2 - 2.5 inch exhaust. They sound like bees in a > coffee > can and sound extremely obnoxious. Anyone who thinks a Honda with a 6" > diameter exhaust can sounds "mean" has got to get an insanity check. > - puts a wheelie bar on the back of a FWD car! ...I've seen it done. > > Basically, what it comes down to is calling the person an idiot. Someone > said > that he knew a few upright people who weren't riceboys. Do they have > bluelights? Maybe it was from ignorance. If you fill them in on the > facts > that blue light isn't good for night vision and they still don't listen, > then > they are morons! So if you were to call someone a boy racer instead of > rice > boy, it's just another way of calling the fellow an idiot, right? I'd > like for > you to go up to the owner of such a car and call him any of the different > names: idiot, riceboy, boy racer, ad nasuem. It will still result in the > same > effect, he/she won't like you and will probably want to kick your ass. > > The same thing goes for those who own a 318i and modify the external stuff > to > look like an M3. You call the person a poseur, no? At any rate, it's all > in > good fun and I call riceboys as I see them...even if they aren't of Asian > decent (which is even worse because you know they can't read the Chinese > characters they stick on their car). Which reminds me...maybe UUC > Motorworks > should come out with a few stickers that sez, "I'm a dickhead" (loosely > translated of course) and see how many gobble them up and put them on > their > cars. Heh heh....well, maybe we'd have to sell them in JC Whitney's > catalog or > Import Tuner... > > Flame suite on....just be forewarned that I'm only kidding. > > Have a good weekend, > Chester > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:29:57 -0500 (EST) From: Moe Drippins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] riceboy question Jim Ochi writes: > Damn, damn, damn. Guess that makes me a riceboy!! :-((( maybe, but are you _offended_? - -- Just Moe '95 540 6 speed, BL/SS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:58:29 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc]my mildly smartass remark Yeah, well, after I sent my quip, I was privately composing a message to help you, but with my long workdays lately, I wasn't going to send it until this weekend when I had a chance to look up part numbers for you. But since you're so oversensitive to my vaguely general teasing, I won't bother to waste my time to help you. You're like the countless folks that go to my website and ask me questions while providing a whole single sentence full of "clues" to help me help them. Considering the sketchiness of the details of what you posted to the UUC digest, you must not have actually been looking for help... The fact that you consider the car "awesome" because you finally got around to dealing with the scheduled maintenance that you were probably too lazy to read the stinking owner's manual to learn about will forever make me giggle. Get over it. And enjoy your 353i, [sic] .steve. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1983 15:04:05 -0500 From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Oh, Gawd! Not the Riceboy topic again! We could always start up the "harnesses without a rollbar or rollcage" thread again. Or maybe talk about Audis? Stan Wading through the "my center back vents only blow cold air" stuff for the third time was bad enough. Can we just talk about dead wabbits and soaking them in Coke and stuff? 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Comments? Personally I would jump all over it. I can't even find a dealership in Southern California who will take a deposit on the car. Refundable or otherwise. In this area, the dealerships seem to be looking at the 89k E39 M5 auctions on ebay and considering doing the same with the E46 M3. What I was originally told by Sterling BMW in Newport Beach Ca was a waiting list for the E46 M3 is now an "interest list" which in no way guarantees delivery of a specific car. Since then, I have called three other dealerships in the area, none of which will reserve a car for anyone. If anyone knows of a dealership in the Western United States who will reserve a specific car in return for a deposit..... Please let me know. - -Jon '97 328ic '95 M3 - ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 5:26 AM Subject: [uuc] <E46> M3 Buying Info. Comments? > A co-worker wants to buy the E46 M3 and is required to put down a $500 deposit that is non-refundable. Since the price of the car is un-announced and appears to be on the edge of what he believes he would like to pay, he is not certain he would want to buy it when the time comes to buy. > > To be honest, I'm not sure how this deposit business works, having bought all my cars with cashier's checks so I thought I would ask the List. > > Does the collective wisdom of the List believe it will be difficult/impossible to sell the 'reservation' of whatever the deposit buys you if one does not want to buy the car? > > I should point out that the aim of this reservation is not to make a profit like some new E39 M5 owners. This person has been agonizing over this decision - E46 M3, E39 540i 6-sp, etc. - for months. > > Thanks. > > Neil Deshpande > 1988 325 iS > 1989 325 iC > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:16:49 -0500 From: "George, Zachariah (CICG Development)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: Oktoberfest preparations Rob, Sir Chat rooms existed BEFORE the internet became common place. It was called 'IRC' (internet relay chat), and was the near death of me in college, but I digress... Wasn't netscape a great product before IE? It sure was a vast improvement on Mosaic... So YOU were that 16-year old Lesbian? :) Zach > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:22:37 -0500 > From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: Oktoberfest preparations? > > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: George, Zachariah (CICG Development) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I still remember using mosaic, and hearing > > about how Netscape was the "new and improved" mosaic... > > those were the days.. > > Microsoft, just (gasp!) copied it. > > > ...and quickened it, and made it work well, and do really cool things, > all for free. > > Bastards! How dare they! > > Thank goodness Netscape/AOL gave us chatrooms - now THAT is a > contribution to society we can all appreciate. Hmmm... maybe tonight > I'll be a 16-year-old lesbian, yeah, that's it! > > - - Rob > > ------------------------------ > >> ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #193 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Curry's Auto Service . http://www.currysauto.com | Eurosport . http://www.eurosport-hp.com | Koala MotorSport . http://www.koalamotorsport.com | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | The Ultimate Garage . http://www.ultimategarage.com | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com | Zionsville Autosport . http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ����������������������������������������
