[uucdigest]         Tuesday, February 8 2000         Volume 03 : Number 217



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] Re: Dinan chips, automatic virgin
       [uuc] <uuc> Ellipsoids & Xenon Upgrade
       [uuc] WANTED:  E30 M3 1990-1991 Black or Silver in color.
       [uuc] <E34> Dead Battery Help
       [uuc] dynotuning at AutoThority
       [uuc] Re: Removing wax on black trim pieces.
       Re: [uuc] <E34> Dead Battery Help
       [uuc] Found this on another mailing list
       [uuc] Does the Bentley manual cover...
       [uuc] RE:Fluke (How to use a multimeter)
       [uuc] Re: E30: sunroof installation question                  BA
       Re: [uuc] <E30> another question
       [uuc] WTB - 235/40-17 MXX3
       RE: [uuc] Bimwad Body Shop in Indianapolis?
       [uuc] RE: Kalifornia DMV Reg Fee's
       [uuc] Added suction?
       RE: [uuc] RE:Fluke (How to use a multimeter)

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:53:41 +1100 
From: "Thomas, Andrew j" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Dinan chips, automatic virgin

Alexander ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:

> Now that was a funny one Doctor.  I agree.  Over the weekend, 
> I took the E28 em five up to redline a copula times and nailed 
> the rev limiter.  I have only had the car for a few months and 
> have not really nailed it yet.  Well, I was surprised to hit the 
> limiter since the car is supposed to have a Dinan chip in it....
> and I even have the old stock chip still in the Dinan case. So, 
> the Dinan chips don't eliminate the rev limiter?  

NO chip eliminates the rev limiter altogether. If this was the case, the
tachometer needle would continue to rise until the motor provided its own,
one-time mechanical rev limitation (floated valves, thrown rods, that kind
of thing). Chips often raise the limit by 200-300 rpm and this is normally
within mechanical limits. But as Matthew pointed out, some motors (the sixes
and the M42/44, reportedly) are balanced only to 7,000 or so. So while it
might look good revving your motor off the last rpm marker at 7,000 and back
into the black, it's probably wearing your crank out. 

And John ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:

> The shock-loading on the drivetrain from putting it back into gear 
> seems to me to overwhelm the benefits of any reduction in heat 
> generated from idling in neutral.  

Likewise. Although the main benefits reported are reduced wear and tear
through reduced vibration, and fuel economy. Check out www.zf-group.de; ZF's
six-speed auto comes with summat called Stand-by Control which disconnects
the converter from the power train (as you do in 'N') so that there is only
minimal residual load on the drivetrain. This reduces fuel consumption
which, remember, the Europeans are extremely happy about. All told, I
wouldn't be surprised if this SBC thing is disabled for the US market,
although given the amount of time I spend idling whilst driving in
traffic-choked cities everywhere, I think it's quite a good idea, if it
works.

> With a manual gearbag 

s/gearbox/gearbag :)

> you can go for the gas and gear at the  same time, with clutch in; 
> if you try this in a slushbox it goes 'clunk' into gear 

But bearing in mind the average manual/pedal skills of the average driver, I
would say that fast, integrated gear engagement, clutch engagement and
throttle application without stalling or racing the engine is beyond the ken
of most. Besides, revving an auto then sticking it into gear is, strictly,
abusing it.

For most, leaving the selector in 'D' usually entails keeping one's foot on
the brakes, meaning pads are pressed against nice, hot discs so they warp
and crack, lengthening stopping distances. For short, slow-speed stops this
is less of a problem, but selecting 'N' and the handbrake is better for long
stops particularly where split-second, off-the-line reactions are not
required. 

Andy T

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 02:12:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <uuc> Ellipsoids & Xenon Upgrade

I'm sure this topic has been beaten to death but I'm still not clear as to
the following:

1.  How many manufacturers make the Ellipsoid headlights for E36's and how
many "versions" of these lights are there?

2.  Where to order from?  Experiences?  Advantages?  Pricing?

3.  Who makes/sells the best HID upgrade?  Phoenix Microlite?  Turner (aka
Phillips)?  Quality? Pricing?

AND...does anyone in Northern California have either or both of these
upgrades on their 3 Series?  I would really like to see this in a real-life
application before plunking down $1200 for the ellipsoids/HID.

Thanks!

Richard C.
1996 M3/2

http://members.xoom.com/E36M3





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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 03:38:03 -0800
From: "Jonathan Reiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] WANTED:  E30 M3 1990-1991 Black or Silver in color.

I am looking to purchase a 1990 or 1991 E30 M3 preferably Black or Silver in
decent shape and low mileage.  Will only consider one which is stock or has
modest modifications and was not a dedicated track car.  This would be used
as a primary car until I take delivery of an E46.  At which time it would
become the new money pit hobby car.  Anyone who has one and is looking to
sell it or knows of one for sale please email me.


TIA

Jon Reiser
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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 04:22:41 PST
From: "RICHARD VAUGHN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <E34> Dead Battery Help

All, I knew I had a problem this morning when I opened the door to my '92 
535i and the interior lights didn't come on. Battery is really dead. Nothing 
comes on. The battery is only about 6-8 months old, but I did notice 
yesterday, when leaving work, that it was not turning the starter as fast as 
it normally did. Obviously, I have an electrical drain some where. Where 
should I start, besides calling the dealer?

TIA, Richard Vaughn BMW CCA
"92 535i 5speed 78k
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 07:34:58 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] dynotuning at AutoThority

Well i'm finally gonna get the '88 325iS w/ a korman head, 288 cam, and longtube 
headers dynotuned.  I would have strongly preferred to have Jim C. tune it, but how 
likely is it to have him fly to northern virginia just to tune my car..  Anyway, i 
made an appt at autothority to have it tuned later this month.  Just wanted to see if 
anyone has had any experience with their dynotuning, and if i'm 'bending over' with 
the price.  Their price breakdown is: $309 for a standard chip + $100 fee for custom 
tuning + dyno time @$125/hr (most likely 2hrs), + $40 for some 5 wire o2 sensor they 
use - $100 for my Dinan chip.  So this could easy be over $700 even with my chip 
credit, $800 w/o.  Is this normal?  It really seems kinda high to me, but i don't 
really know anything about tuning BMW's, and from what i've heard, i'm pretty limited 
as to where i can take it to get it tuned w/o making a LONG roadtrip.  TIA for any 
help :o)

jason mccowan
ncc 

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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 04:57:39 PST
From: "Chuck Grafton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Removing wax on black trim pieces.

OK folks, since we're going to explore this thread again, and all the 
methods are again being listed for the many new folks to this digest, I must 
add the old standby, peanut butter is so messy, the famous Staedtler Mars 
Plastic eraser from the Father Land (Germany).  These are a white "Gummi" 
type eraser found at most office supply stores, Staples carries them here in 
the DC Metro area.  They come in a three pack and are usully found in the 
engineering graphics supply area of the store.  They work fantasically, just 
brush off after use.

Chuck
'90 ///M3
BMW CCA #6832
NCC

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 08:18:30 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <E34> Dead Battery Help

First charge the battery and get it started.  Use a voltmeter to measure
battery voltage.  You should have 13.8 to 14.2 volts or close to that range.
Then begin turning on high power accessories, lights, heater fan, operate a
window.  With each load, the voltage may drop a bit (few tenths of a volt)
but should recover when the load is removed.  While several loads are on,
and the volts have dropped, revving the engine should bring the volts up.
If you get this behavior, the charging system is good and you either have a
bad battery or something is on and draining the battery when everything is
supposed to be off.  Now it gets hard.  You can disconnect the battery and
place an ammeter between the battery and the cable.  There will be some
small draw, like 50 mA.  If the draw it much higher, start pulling fuses
until it stops.  Then using the ETM, you can trace the culprit.

Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> All, I knew I had a problem this morning when I opened the door to my '92
> 535i and the interior lights didn't come on. Battery is really dead.
Nothing
> comes on. The battery is only about 6-8 months old, but I did notice
> yesterday, when leaving work, that it was not turning the starter as fast
as
> it normally did. Obviously, I have an electrical drain some where. Where
> should I start, besides calling the dealer?
>
> TIA, Richard Vaughn BMW CCA
> "92 535i 5speed 78k
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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 08:26:51 -0500
From: "David Larocque - ColorImage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Found this on another mailing list

http://www.tconl.com/~hartman/speedo01.html

David Larocque
ColorImage Canada Inc
416-955-9636 x 736
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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 08:44:37 -0500
From: Patrick Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Does the Bentley manual cover...

There's no double clutching my way past this one. It's time to pull the tranny
out of the '86 528e. Does the Bentley E28 manual cover rebuilding the 5 speed
tranny? Who's the best source for synchro rings, bearings, and seals? Have any
of you tackled this, or have all the BMW techs fled the list? <g>

All replies welcome.

Patrick Burns
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:27:41 -0500
From: "George, Zachariah (CICG Development)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE:Fluke (How to use a multimeter)

"Good" is an understatement.
I believe Flukes are the best in the business
Should we say, the "Conforti of multimeteres"?

Zach
'94 325i w/sport pkg 5-spd. Sharked.
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:09:07 -0500 
> From: "Binder, Larry - Paoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [uuc] how to use multimeter
> 
> A company by the name of "Fluke" makes a good multimeter.  
> I've had the same
> one for about 6 years now without any problems.
> 
> Larry
> 97 318i

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:30:53 -0500
From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: E30: sunroof installation question                  BA

Chuck, you need the roof to be in the fully closed position.

Brett Anderson
www.koalamotorsport.com
Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual


> From: "Chuck MacWilliam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [uuc] E30: sunroof installation question
>
> Hi folks,
> I'm reinstalling my sunroof after having the car painted and I'm having a
> hard time understanding the directions in my Bentley.  It says to adjust
the
> sunroof so that it's tilted up in the rear 1mm above the roof and tilted
> down in the front 1mm below the roof line.  My question is: is this done
> with the controls in the fully-closed position?  Or do I use the controls
to
> get the 1mm differential with the allen wrenches in the slots?  Any help
is
> greatly appreciated. TIA.
>
> Chuck MacWilliam
> '92 525i; '85 325e; '90 Chevy Silverado

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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 09:26:07 -0500
From: Eurowerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> another question

K.C.

Your safety is not worth a temporary fix.  Take the time to order a new
or a guaranted good used seatbelt assembly.  Normally, when they don't
want to retract anymore, the seatbelt is bad.....

"K.C. Boyce" wrote:

> The driver's side seatbelt has become loath to retract on my car
> recently.  What can I do to help it along (other than replacing the
> reel)?
>

- --
Kirk A. Gilchrist
EURO-WERKS / Mercedes Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair
8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 606-745-0125
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.euromajic.com

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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 09:25:39 -0500
From: Rich Beebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] WTB - 235/40-17 MXX3

subject says it all. i'm looking for a very good condition MXX3
in 235/40-17. local would be preferred, but i will pay to have it
shipped. thanks.

rich beebe
ncc
baltimore, md
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 08:42:25 -0500 
From: "Cagann, Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Bimwad Body Shop in Indianapolis?

> My car was no showpiece.  The front end had been long damaged 
> before I got
> it and the repair job was no prize.  The paint on the 
> front-end sheetmetal
> was badly checked and stone-chipped, and poorly repaired.  
> Assuming the car
> is NOT totaled, is there a reasonable, reliable, competent 
> body shop in
> Indianapolis that I should have handle the job?
> 
> 
> Karl Zemlin


Karl, I live in Indy too.  I have had much experience with the Tin Ranch.
Talk with Bill Dougherty and tell him I sent ya....he may remember me, may
not...he talks to a lot of people.  He fixed my dad's old 95 M3 when I ran
it into a fence post and through a front yard.  Work was superb.  He fixed
my old 87 535is when my friend dumped his SUV into the rear quarter.  He
fixed my friends 85 635csi when a ladder fell on the hood, windshield, and
top.  Absolutely flawless work, you could never tell he was there.  This
place can paint, and I mean PAINT!  They are located way up on the northside
of town in Westfield.  Number is 896-2464.  I am planning on taking my 88M5
there soon to have the hood painted.  

Alex Cagann

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:42:32 -0500
From: "George, Zachariah (CICG Development)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: Kalifornia DMV Reg Fee's

Gosh! What country is this in?
:)

Zach
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:43:31 EST
> Subject: [uuc] Re: California DMV Reg Fee's
> 
> Jonathan Reiser Wrote:
> 
> << The luxury tax concept is right on par with the California 
> DMV who charges
>  registration fees directly based on the value of your 
> car....  to renew my
>  1997 328ic in 1998 it cost me $920.00....... To renew it for 
> 1999 it was
>  $650.00... >>
> 
> 

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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 09:45:00 -0500
From: Chris Whitney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Added suction?

Steve said:

>Due to the new head (<10k) creating added suction in the top end of my '87 
>325iS' motor, "oil starvation" was created in the short block. 

extended snippage...

I have to admit this is a new one on me.  No aspersions on you Steve, but I
think this is a line fed to you by someone questionable.  I can't see how a
new head would affect oil flow in the block.

Anyone?

Rgds,
Chris Whitney
'88 535i 

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:47:27 -0500 
From: "Binder, Larry - Paoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] RE:Fluke (How to use a multimeter)

I sincerely apoligize to everyone for not giving the fluke multimeters all
of the credit that was due to them.  I was not aware that so many people on
the list liked them so much.  I retract my statement that they are a "good"
multimeter and would like to replace it with this one. "They are the
greatest multimeter that I have ever used, I do not know how I would ever
make it through life without it.  Anything good that has ever happened to
me, I'm sure was a direct result of owning a Fluke. "

Larry
97 318i

Mech Designer/Draftsman
Synthes Spine

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: George, Zachariah (CICG Development) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 9:28 AM
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject:      [uuc] RE:Fluke (How to use a multimeter)
> 
> "Good" is an understatement.
> I believe Flukes are the best in the business
> Should we say, the "Conforti of multimeteres"?
> 
> Zach
> '94 325i w/sport pkg 5-spd. Sharked.
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:09:07 -0500 
> > From: "Binder, Larry - Paoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: [uuc] how to use multimeter
> > 
> > A company by the name of "Fluke" makes a good multimeter.  
> > I've had the same
> > one for about 6 years now without any problems.
> > 
> > Larry
> > 97 318i

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