[uucdigest]         Tuesday, February 22 2000         Volume 03 : Number 313



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       Re: [uuc] UUC Shifter/Mountain Dew [waay off topic]
       Re: [uuc] My first driver's school
       Re: [uuc] e46 m3 images
       Re: [uuc] <E28> Front end vibration
       [uuc] Re: [E36M3] GROUP DEAL - skip barber 3 day racing school  
(http://www.skipbarber.com
       Subject: [uuc] Widening wheels? (BBS RS 3-piece)
       Re: [uuc] UUC Shifter: Which one?
       [uuc] M5 speakers and front spoiler
       [uuc] BMW NA's Response to  "BMW Individual - Available or No?" 
       [uuc] Weight Transfer cont...
       RE: [uuc] FWD handling
       [uuc] <OT> When Spelling Does Count (was Driving/Shifting question)
       [uuc] Re: shipping cars
       [uuc] <FS> 1999 E46 323i
       [uuc] FW: E46 M3
       RE: [uuc] e46 m3 images

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:55:33 -0600
From: "-A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] UUC Shifter/Mountain Dew [waay off topic]

FYI, the Splode spoof commercial is actually part of a campaign towards
reducing teen smoking. If you hang on and pay attention to the short message
that follows...

Tobacco- the only product that kills 1 in 3 users.

A similar new spot features H-BOMB shoes (a spoof of Nike Air basketball
shoes) showing 3 Slam Dunk title contenders doing their magic at the rim-
the 3rd contestant jams the ball and upon coming back down to the court,
explodes in a fiery fireball.

on 2/22/00 9:40 AM, [uucdigest] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 07:31:11 -0600
> From: "Brian Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [uuc] UUC Shifter/Mountain Dew
> 
> Referring to John Stoj's comment to Milo about laying off the mountain dew
> that 16 year olds drink.....You must not be watching enough TV John!
> 
> Mountain Dew is out and the new kid on the block is "SPLODE" (Dude) "with 10
> times the carbonation of regular carbonated drinks"
> 
> The spot on TV shows kids bungie jumping of a bridge out in a mountainous
> area and at the bottom of their "trip" they grab a can of SPLODE off a rock
> and on the return trip up, they pop the can and the drink sprays out of the
> can into the participants mouth (sort of----)
> 
> Second jumper gets his can of SPLODE and when he pops it, there is a huge
> explosion and he is GONE ("sploded" I guess)
> 
> Brian

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:55:33 -0600
From: "-A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] My first driver's school

I've only seen this happen on cars that are of sufficient chassis stiffness
and/or shortness of wheelbase. Mostly Rabbits/Golfs and the ubiquitous IT-R
in the Speedvision Cup. I've seen Geo Metro/Suzuki Swift GT's do this
without too much urging.

I don't think a Cadillac Seville STS would take to a full "tricycle"
cornering attitude. Then again, I don't see these cars at auto-x, either.
:-)

on 2/22/00 9:40 AM, [uucdigest] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 07:23:12 -0800 (PST)
> From: Matthew Yip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [uuc] My first driver's school
> 
> - --- Moe Drippins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Inside rear?  At what point in the turn?
> 
> If done right, any FWD car will tricycle completely thru a turn.
> It's  b/c such a large percentage of a FWD's weight is over the front
> wheels.  I like this "feature" because it saves on tire wear <g>

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:57:59 -0800
From: "Jonathan Reiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] e46 m3 images

That looks like an 8 to me!  <BFG>

I wonder what AA, Dinan, ERT etc will come out with for Turbo and SC systems
for this thing?  ahh!?  911 Turbo kinda power.




- ----- Original Message -----
From: "VincentMathew Malfa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 3:48 PM
Subject: RE: [uuc] e46 m3 images


>
> Can anybody see where the red on the tach starts? I know what seriously
fun
> number it looks like to me at 1024x768, but I would hate to be an alarmist
> <g>...
>
> Matt M.
>
> <<<
> http://home.sol.no/~lrst/m3/
>
> original images are at
>
> http://www.dinside.no/ds/owa/a.vis?id=7780
> >>>
>

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:44:26 -0500
From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <E28> Front end vibration

It's simply the rotors.

get Balo brand rotors, probably won't warp again.

- - Rob

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: Chris Chong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> However, now braking above 70km/h (45mph) causes bad vibration in 
> steering wheel.
> What the heck do I do now? I know the rotors are a little warped, but 
> is there anything else that might be the culprit? As you can see, my 
> CDN$3000 bimmer is quickly sucking my pocket dry. Verdict about 
> owning this car: Cheap to buy and insure, comfortable and fun to 
> drive, bloody expensive to get everything working right. Please tell 
> me that it should likely, ONLY, be the rotors...?
> 
> I've read all the web literature, but I still need your opinions.
> 
> Chris "slightly annoyed"
> '83 528e

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:02:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Chester Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: [E36M3] GROUP DEAL - skip barber 3 day racing school  
(http://www.skipbarber.com

Also know that http://www.iwon.com is giving away a Skip Barber Racing school
session for their Feb prize winner.

FYI,
Chester

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:03:33 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Subject: [uuc] Widening wheels? (BBS RS 3-piece)

Robert, I believe what you will find from BBS in a 16x8 3 piece wheel for BMW 
is an offset of 20. (BBS model number RS-061).  I have a set on my '87 535is. 
They are pretty hard to find. I looked for over a year before locating a set. 
I would vote for this option over monkeying around with widening IMHO. Good 
luck!
Jimmy Wilson
'87 535is
'94 325ic

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:38:49 -0500
From: Dave Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] UUC Shifter: Which one?

Bob Crews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I highly recommend the UUC short shifter.  I have the new 
>EVO Ball Bearing Competition model with the ERK and Delrin 
>bushings in my '99 M3 and absolutely love it.
>
>I also suggest you invest in the UUC "Clutch Stop" too.  
>It makes a beautiful package.
>
>Bob ///M3

And Redline D4ATF should complete the 'trilogy' (for E36's).

Dave Meyer
99 328is
94 K75RT
Lorton VA

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:30:18 -0800
From: "Michael Lesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] M5 speakers and front spoiler

Thanks to Dean Boucouras, Keith Wollenberg, Scottie Sharpe, and George Phemister for 
their suggestions in re speakers for my '88 M5.

Now I need a front spoiler for the car--someone backed into the RF fender and cracked 
the spoiler this weekend. BMW says the spoiler is NLA. Does anyone out there know of 
one, either new or a good used one available for purchase?

Thanks for your help,

Michael Lesser
GGC CCA #5728

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:04:55 -0800
From: "Jonathan Reiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] BMW NA's Response to  "BMW Individual - Available or No?" 

For those of you who have ever been interested in the BMW Individual
program, below is the response I received from BMW NA when I asked them
whether it is available here in the US (some people say yes, some say no).
FWIW, two years ago I attempted to order an E36 M3 through the Individual
program and was told by both my dealer, and BMW NA, that it was NOT
available in the US.  Creation of BMW's "Owners Corner" web page has made it
a bit easier to get information out of them, but so far I have always
received ambiguous responses such as the one below.

They state that the program is available from dealerships who are willing to
participate in the program.  They then go on to say "Once you have located
such a center" without giving any indication of who some of those dealers
might be in my area....  Not very helpful.  Anyway, below is the official
word on whether or not you can use BMW indivdual's program in the US.


BMW CUSTOMER RELATIONS WRITES:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: BMW Individual


I'm with BMW of North America, Inc. and read you're interested in BMW's
Individual Program.  In the United States, the Program is very limited;
those centers that are willing to participate and accept orders usually
confine them to paint and upholstery choices.  Once you've located such a
center, their staff will coordinate the implementation of the Program.  I
hope you'll continue to stay in touch with BMW by regularly browsing our
website at www.bmwusa.com.  Should you wish to call, we're here for you at
1-800-831-1117.  Thank you for choosing BMW.
Sincerely,
Edna Berger

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:13:52 -0800
From: Gustave Stroes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Weight Transfer cont...

>The typical 50/50 for FWD and 80/20 for RWD is steady state cornering.
>Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

That would be for the outside pair of wheels only I take it.

We have obviously determined that for a FWD car that the inside pair of
wheels will show a 100/0 front-to-rear weight distribution.

As long as the throttle is at steady state and the brakes are not applied
then the total front to rear weight balance should be the same as static.

Gustave

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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:29:49 +1100
From: "Thomas, Andrew j" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] FWD handling

Matthew ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:

> It COULD lead to a spin BUT since the rear wheels on an 
> FWD car don't do more than keep the fuel tank off the pavement, 
> it is more a side-effect of the nose-heavy weight distribution.  

This is somewhat contentious, Matthew - it's rather like saying the rear
wheels of a RWD car merely provide the force required to move the car in a
forward direction. As well as keep the fuel tank off the pavement, of
course. Plenty of ill-balanced FWD cars stay planted, and many well-balanced
FWD hatchbacks cock the inside rear. The Peugeot 205GTi (RIP) was a notable
proponent, and that was a very well-balanced car - a lightweight engine, no
ABS, no electric anything, and practically zero crashworthiness at the front
gave it a very even weight distribution (I drove a 205 for a while - 850 kg
of gallic fun). The rear end of a well-tuned FWD car is often what
distiguishes its handling characteristics from the thousands of others and
can turn a plough-on special into an oversteery delight.

Andy T

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:25:20 -0800
From: "Scott D Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <OT> When Spelling Does Count (was Driving/Shifting question)

I know this is petty, and I've tried not to comment on people's spelling,
grammar, punctuation, etc., since the important part is to convey the
meaning of the message, not pass an English test.  But there is one area
where I think we should strive to get it right:

>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:13:24 -0600
>From: "Fadeev, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [uuc] RE: <ot> Driving/shifting question
>
<snip>
>Zach,
>Nothing to worry about.
>Just some fools trying to blip the throttle, downshift _and_ break at the
>same time. Humans, being bipedal, and break being the 3rd pedal ...
>
>alex f

When you're doing 110 down the front straight and you have to slow down for
the turn, you do what?

BRAKE.

When you're doing 110 down the front straight and you have to slow down for
the turn, if you don't BRAKE, you'll end up rolling the car or bashing the
wall, or in other words, you BREAK, which is not the desired outcome.

To review:

Brake = good.
Break = bad.

Of course, Alex does get extra credit for using the work "bipedal"
correctly and still working a pun out of it.  Well, sort of.

OK, sorry for my little rant, and I really do try to tolerate everyone's
"creative writing", but this one was bugging me.

Scott Miller
Had an '87 325is break at Sears Point Turn 10 once maybe because of not
enough brake?
GGC BMW CCA #44977

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:25:47 -0800
From: "Scott D Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: shipping cars

Michael, your friend is missing out on a GREAT road trip!  Tell him to
DRIVE his car to his new home.  What an adventure!  Does he have any idea
what he's missing by just shipping the car?

>Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 14:10:15 EST
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [uuc] shipping cars
>
>Dear Digesters,
>
>A friend of mine is moving from New York City to Hawaii and needs to ship
his
>99 M3.  Any suggestions as to which company to use?
>
>Thanks for your help
>
>Michael Su
>1991 325ic

Scott Miller, Resident Smart *ss
GGC BMW CCA #44977

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 18:30:12 -0700
From: Geoff & Diana Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <FS> 1999 E46 323i

Posting for a net impaired friend:

For Sale:  1999 323i
Red/4 Door
Sports Package
Wood Trim
Computer
Arm Rest
Sheepskin Vests
Mud Flaps
In Dash CD Player
9,400 Smiles.

Book Value $31K, asking $26K.

Sale due to over enthusiastic investments that have interest of the IRS
... or will have shortly!

Please reply to my home email [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call 719-488-5771.

Cheers

Geoff Patterson
98 528i
92 325ic

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:37:49 -0500
From: "Timothy Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] FW: E46 M3

Looks great, but those vents on the side look superfluous. I like 'em on the
Z3 and M Coupe though. So, I'm a hypocrite. Get over it.

If BMWNA really charges $55-60K for this car I gotta believe that the S4
will become REAL attractive to a whole lot of buyers. $60K for a 3 series,
come on...

Tim T

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:34:33 -0500
From: Mark Borchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] e46 m3 images

hmmm... looks like 9300!!!   anybody else?

> Can anybody see where the red on the tach starts? I know what seriously fun
> number it looks like to me at 1024x768, but I would hate to be an alarmist
>

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