[uucdigest] Monday, February 28 2000 Volume 03 : Number 351 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Re: Rob's new toy [uuc] Rob's Toy [uuc] <E30> Sex change operation RE:[uuc] Where's the BMW content? [uuc] Touring Cars [uuc] Ah OH Duane-O RE: [uuc] Skipping CD Changer [uuc] hi, i'm new [uuc] Rob's New Toy [uuc] Advice on E23 728 [uuc] Re: GGC Autocross [uuc] Team Dynamics Wheels [uuc] <FS> 1995 M3 [uuc] I'm a dumbsh*t [uuc] RE: GGC Autocross [uuc] Re: Korman Open House Info ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:40:01 -0500 From: Steve Castle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Rob's new toy Picture if you will, four fairly large adult males sitting comfortably in a E34 touring. A quick left turn onto the Cumberland southbound on ramp to Interstate 75 and full throttle acceleration takes the touring up to about 130mph before the actual interstate is reached. And the on ramp isn't that long. 'Nuff said about the Euro 3.8L S38. And it was a genuine pleasure to finally meet Rob and Brett after all this time. Steve C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:37:08 -0800 From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Rob's Toy OK so Rob is getting an M5, browse the pix ...... follow the break crumbs..... coy little pix no indication of things to come...... shit its a Salon (Saloon?). That is cool. But Rob, take some dough off the price for that over used and abused rear arm rest or inject it with some Viagra. - -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:32:51 +1000 From: "Ian & Kim Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E30> Sex change operation > Just wondering, how much work is entailed in replacing the automatic tranny on an E30 325i (1991 non-sport) with the stick? Is it best to shop around for a "donor" car, or do specialty shops have easy access to rebuilt manual bmw tranny's? Does anyone have an idea of what a specialty shop would charge for the complete operation? Is it all worth it? Tom Newton< Tom, I just had mine done, total of AUD$2300 (US$1500) complete conversion. I was without the car for three days. IMHO , absolutely worth it. Ian Solomon #257 BMW Club Queensland www.bmwclubqld.asn.au '85 323i Baur Cabrio [IRS 58] 5 spd BL/SS'd www.powerup.com.au/~irs/Default.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:41:23 -0500 From: "George, Zachariah (CICG Development)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE:[uuc] Where's the BMW content? Shhhh... Kevin! He only JUST got married. Give him some time. Atleast after the honeymoon? I got married against the honest advice of a mentor, that was married for 20+ years, and said he wouldn't do it again. I wondered why. ..THEN, to my delight, just about the same time, I discovered UUC only to realise, it's not all that U-U-C anymore, really... Zach "married-wit- child" George > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:46:00 -0800 > From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] Where's the BMW content? > > She said YES. > > Oh God, gag me. > > Well there goes your car repair budget. > > - -Kevin > > ------------------------------ > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:33:29 +1000 From: "Ian & Kim Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Touring Cars Bryan Watts asked: I want to see one of the touring car races where they use the big motors, like 4.0 liter V8's. Anyone know where that series takes place?? Bryan, Out here in Australia, we have what a called the V8 supercars, 5 litre (300 cu in) V8 touring cars limited to approx 600 hp. This is the premier class in Oz and provides some really balls out racing. On proper road circuits, these guys usually qualify with at least 10 cars in the same 1/2 second. One race last year had a huge tanding start and the series leader got a bit of a shunt which rolled him twice and sent him upside down for about 500 yards and into a wall. Limped away and then won the series anyway. Only two brands are allowed, Fords and Holdens (GM) and we class it as the dinosaur brigade. Ian Solomon #257 BMW Club Queensland www.bmwclubqld.asn.au '85 323i Baur Cabrio [IRS 58] www.powerup.com.au/~irs/Default.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:51:33 -0800 From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Ah OH Duane-O Duane used the "Wunderbar" word. He's slowly being dragged over to the Dark Side. We'll know he's fully converted when he starts to extoll the virtues of "Chair -Mann" Beer over RRock. Kevin (Another Sled owner). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:09:26 -0500 From: "Heckendorf, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Skipping CD Changer Mark, Make sure the Red securing screw has been removed (or rather, since it's a used Changer, not re-installed). This secures the shuttle mechanism and if not removed, the dampening of the Changer (which would allow the disk and laser to float together over road irregularities) will be prevented. Aside from that, unfortunately, you may have found out the hard way why the unit was used and for sale... Regards, Dave - -----Original Message----- Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:34:44 -0500 From: "Mark Bolton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Skipping CD Changer I purchased a used BMW in-trunk CD changer this winter and installed it in my late 95 M3. When I put the nice MXX3's this week after scrubbing around on Blizzaks for too long, with the stiffer ride it is skipping like crazy. I hear that this is NOT normal. Anyone else had this problem? Had it fixed? What was the problem? Before I call a local audio guy who does nice work on this kind of stuff, I wanted to see if anyone had any experience. TIA Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:10:54 PST From: "Christopher Chow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] hi, i'm new hello, i'm new to this list. I joined because i'm looking to buy a used bmw, and i figured this would be a good place to get tips on what to check for when i'm looking at the car. i'm planning on getting a '89-'91 3-series. this is also going to be the first car i'm actually buying myself, so any good general car buying tips from a dealer would be helpful also. thanks. - -chris chow bimmer enthusiast and potential owner ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:18:05 -0500 From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Rob's New Toy A real sleeper.....Rob's sure to get the thumbs up of approval from the car loads of Hasidic folks in their station wagons here in the NY City area. SD ========================================= Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage 201-262-0412 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.ultimategarage.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:39:05 +1100 From: "Thomas, Andrew j" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Advice on E23 728 Ivo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: > I need advice about changing my 316 '86 ( shift) for > 728 '83 (automatic). Key for key. My 316 is in perfect > condition and as far as I saw 728, it looks great too. > Is it good trade or this 728 is bad solution? Can > anyone tell me the consumption of 728. Are you sure it's not a 728i? The 728s came out in carburetted form in 1977 or thereabouts but at some point switched to fuel injection (about 1981, something like that). The fuel consumption of the 728i will be better, but the injection system is more complex than plain carbs (either way, if it's out of tune the consumption will probably be horrendous). I vaguely remember that 728s (2,788 cc) weren't that much slower than the 732i (3,210 cc) or 735i (3,430 cc) of the same vintage, however it will probably have been driven as if it was a 735i (which country are you in?). My concern would be the autobox - if it's a 3-speeder, the 'box is sturdier but motorway cruising will be noisy, at only 20 mph per 1000 in top. If it's a four-speeder, which the '83 cars should be, it'll be much more relaxed but get the transmission checked for a failing clutch pack (transmission shop will advise). Early 4-speed autos of the type fitted to this car are apparently prone to burning out one of the clutch packs if the motor is revved in neutral immediately after the car has been driven in gear (such as during an emissions check). The proper solution is to modify the gearbox to allow pressure to bleed off this clutch pack when neutral is selected - again, a good transmission shop will advise. Otherwise just be prepared for bigger fuel and repair bills and make sure you check the chassis and body panels thoroughly for rust. I've never owned an E23 but perhaps one of the E23 owners can provide general information on this chassis? Andy T "This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. When addressed to our clients, any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return email or telephone +61 2 9335 7000 and destroy the original message. Thank you." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:50:25 -0800 From: "Scott D Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: GGC Autocross Jim amuses us with: >Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:46:55 -0800 >From: Jim Ochi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [uuc] GGC Autocross (was <e30> Identifying a...) > >At 08:55 AM 2/24/00 -0800, Scott D Miller wrote: >> >>Hey John, Jim Ochi musta known you'd be "gunnin'" for him, he just put a >>newer aftermarket suspension on his M3 (replacing the older aftermarket >>suspension he already had, as if he wasn't already fast enough?). > >Hey Scott - > >You must have misunderstood me - I put the stock suspension back on. Yup, >trust me, totally stock. Nah, you don't have to inspect it, it's totally >stock. Um, yeah, I decided to paint the various pieces, but they're really >just stock items all prettied up. The paint went on kind of heavy, that's >why the sway bars look >thicker. Those aren't really coilovers - M3s built in April 96 came that >way. It was some sort of mid-year experiment...And I ate too much over the >winter, that's why the car sits lower... > >Jim "Honest, Officer..." Ochi >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Two true stories from GGC Autocross folklore: 1. Back when the E30 convertible was first introduced in the U.S. a guy brought his brand new 325ic to a GGC autocross. Peter Knoot and I inspected and classified it, since that was kind of our job. It sat much more than an inch lower than any other E30 out there. So we asked him what kind of suspension he had, and he said, "It's stock". So we look at the other E30s and look back at the convertible and ask again, no really, whatcha got under there? Once again he insists that it is stock. This goes on for a couple of minutes and we finally decide that the dealer must have put on some kind of aftermarket springs, because this just can't be stock. So we classified the car as having modified suspension. Well, guess what? He was right - this became apparent when, after a few more autocrosses, enough convertibles showed up for us to figure out that stock is lower for the convertible. Meanwhile, I think we pretty much pissed off that first guy, because he never came back. And if you're on this list today, dude, we're sorry. We blew it. 2. Franz Fechner had a cream colored 2000CS which many of you have probably seen in several BMW books as an example of the model. Franz was once our autocross coordinator and also an excellent driver. He could turn some fantastic times in some pretty mediocre vehicles. Franz has moved on to that great car club in the sky, but his legacy remains. We have named the perpetual Fechner Cup after him, and the overall winner of the Top Driver Shootout each year gets his name ingraved on the trophy, which then occupies the winner's mantle for a year. But I've way digressed here. Part of our tech inspection process is to bounce the car and see if the shocks work. Crude, but effective. Well, one day his car won't bounce. Push as hard as you want on it, the suspension does not budge. So we ask Franz what he's got for shocks, and he says (yeah, you guessed it), "They're stock". Well, no stock BMW from the '60s ever came with suspension THAT stiff! Turns out that's not the real story. He went to the dealer for shocks with the intent of buying stock units, but of course shocks for a car that was more than 20 years old were NLA. So the dealer says they can get an "equivalent" shock that will work. These were on his car at the autocross. What did the dealer get? Who knows, but they fit, which was all Franz cared about. But just because they came from the dealer did not mean they were stock. Anyway, the point is this: Sometimes when the owner says the suspension is stock, he's telling the truth and you should believe it. Other times the owner says the suspension is stock when he knows damn well that it isn't. So it is a judgement call when the car is classified. Do we believe the owner, or do we do what we think is right? In Jim's case, we'll go over the car with a fine tooth comb. :^) Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA #44977 GGC Autocross March 19 - details at www.ggc-bmw-cca.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:15:09 -0500 From: "Langsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Team Dynamics Wheels I beg to differ on the quality of these wheels, During the past 2 years I have put 30K+ on a set , 5 track days, and I live in NH where the roads aren't always the best. They have not bent, gone out of round, or failed me in any way. I run the 17"X 7 1/2" with a 225/40x17 tire on an E30 M3. I'd have to say that I have been very pleased , as for the money they can't be beat. During the time I have driven on these I have a friend who has destroyed 3 very expensive brand name alloys of the same size on an E34 M5 . . . . and he lives in Connecticut where the roads are far better. As for balancing a low profile tire on a wide wheel, I haven't had any difficulties as long as I had the weights mounted just inside the spokes, and none on the inside bead. This does balance only on one plane, and the ride has been smooth, and tire wear negligible. Mario Langsten Bow, NH ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:18:52 -0500 From: Todd Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <FS> 1995 M3 1995 M3 avus blue/light tan, 5spd, luxury package, heated seats, 71,000 miles, 11/95 production $22,000 http://www.geocities.com/tcs021/ Car is in Dallas/Fort Worth, Tx area. - -todd (412) 310-0555 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:41:09 -0800 From: "Jerry Chyo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] I'm a dumbsh*t Sorry about that folks. Hit the SEND button before I could trim. I'm an idiot. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:01:57 -0800 (PST) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: GGC Autocross - --- "Fadeev, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's what local LSC (TX) course designers would vote down as a > sleeper. > Visualize 4th gear autocrosses hitting triple digit speeds. FTD North > of > 1:30 ;-))) > > Lone Star, "Yeah, we've got room" Chapter > alex f Yeah, yeah, you guys boast EVERYTHING is bigger in Texas, I guess you're right! 4th! jeez. Carlos 91 M3 Motor City Chapter, "We don't do autocross" Chapter darnit that's it I'm moving to Texas :-) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:17:07 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Korman Open House Info > From: Allen Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] Korman Open House Info, Dyno Sessions > Korman 20th Annual Open House >Admission is $7.00, includes lunch and raffle ticket. Now why doesn't that surprise me from Korman. Funny how a reputable company would love to hand out sandwiches to get people into their shop. Potential customers one and all. Oh yeah, I forgot, it's Korman............. Brett Anderson www.koalamotorsport.com Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #351 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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