[uucdigest] Monday, March 20 2000 Volume 03 : Number 476 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] Pass out the CIGARS...Its a BOY!! [uuc] <E36> Suspension Install [uuc] <E30> iX Control Arm Replacement. Comments. [uuc] Re: iX control arms RE: [uuc] A few tidbits of info [uuc] Re: Bmw/Honda [uuc] Re: Excessive wear on rear brakes :( [uuc] NCC Tour Re: [uuc] Looking for a history lesson [uuc] Re: [uuc} <e36> Suspension Install [uuc] Rear camber adjustments [uuc] WTB: getrag 260/6 from 86-88 5/6/7 [uuc] e30 front end vibes RE: [uuc] <E28> Oil Filter Re: [uuc] Re: Excessive wear on rear brakes :( Re: [uuc] Looking for a history lesson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:59:00 -0600 From: Donn York <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Pass out the CIGARS...Its a BOY!! > Fetch asked: > > I have a few ??? > > 1) Do I get to keep the service free program on the car if I am the 2nd > owner? If so do I need to notify BMW? What is included? Yes, you get to receive the benefits of the maintenance program. It's all based on your in-service date, that is, the date that the original owner placed the car in service. You should find that out, so you know when your three years will be up. Maintenance includes oil changes and Inspections I and II, if you can squeeze them in before 3 years or 36,000 miles are up. Most dealers won't perform the "scheduled maintenance" until all your green dashboard lights go out or until you only have one green one left. Hope this helps. Donn ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 2000 14:05:05 -0600 From: Vijay Nuthulapaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E36> Suspension Install People, I am attempting to put a new suspension in my E36 325i and would like to get any writeups on the installation procedures, if any one has one. I need instructions for front and rear shocks and springs and front and rear sway bars. All info is appreciated. Thanks, Vijay 98 M3 94 325i <-- Club Racer in the making ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:06:09 -0500 From: "Neil Deshpande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E30> iX Control Arm Replacement. Comments. Larry: Jack Money and I performed the same procedure on his 89 iX. Check the write-up at www.skumwerks.net. "Is replacing the control arm a DIY job?" Yes. "There was some talk at the school about replacing with an E30M3 control arm. I wonder how different the iX is from other E30s." The iX arms are longer than the M3 ones in their transverse arm on account of the knuckle having to be further out to accommodate the C.V. joint. "I assume the control arm rubber bushing should also be replaced....and possibly upgraded, at the same time. Is it true that R&R of this bushing is difficult and NOT a DIY job?" You will need a press to push the new bushing into the carrier. It is possible to buy these pre-installed from Steve D'Gerolamo at www.ultimategarage.com. We pressed the new ones in as we had access to a press. Chuck McWilliam was able to hammer them in, but I would not count on that unless I'd seen that done before and knew some of the tricks. The bushings are the same as E30 and upgrades apply the same too. "Should both control arms and bushings be replaced while at it?" I have always done so - 88 iS, 89 iC, 87 P-car 944. Might as well unless the one failed for some non wear related reason like an accident. "BTW, ran home and got the SPARE BMW, which DID pass tech, so.... had a great time at the school in spite of the minor unexpected trauma." Working towards the same 'spare' myself! Feel free to mail me with any more questions! I have pictures too! Neil Deshpande 1988 325 iS 1989 325 iC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:08:56 -0600 From: David Manderscheid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: iX control arms The iX control arms are specific to the iX and as such cost much more than regular e30 arms. I doubt the m3 arms would fit but I am no expert. I suggest you visit the iX portion of the FAQ at the CCA. As far as do it yourself that depends on your abilities but it aint a walk in the park. Hope this helps. Dave Manderscheid 91 iX 62K ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:15:34 -0500 From: "Money, Jack (J.J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] A few tidbits of info Grant asks: <<If Ford buys BMW, would you get a big discount? ;)>> Uh, yeah. Like we do on Jag, Vovlo, and soon, no doubt, on Land Rover. As much as I'd like to see BMW remain independant I would cry less over Ford buying them vs. GM (where I also get a big discount) or some other company. I think Ford would leave BMW alone quite a bit....except for maybe "stealing" technology from them. It's not like BMW is dying...like Jag was. Regards, Jack Money Motor City Chapter iX Registry, E30 M3 SIG '89 iX ----> Sharked! E30 M3 ----> Evolving mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or reply http://skumwerks.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:18:59 -0500 From: "Joseph C. Volpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Bmw/Honda I guess you've never driven an NSX or an S2000? or even an original Legend Coupe? Honda's philosophy of doing things there own way makes them a perfect match for BMW. Even Roundel thought as much in a few articles. Plus BMW can learn some reliability and ease of service and maintenance from a company like Honda. Granted Honda can learn some soul from BMW. Ever watch Speed Vision? The 6 year old Integra GS-R has as many wins as the clubs racing M3's. That is saying something. Of the choices IF BMW merges with anybody, I'd pick Honda. But know one knows for sure and everyone has there own opinion. That is what makes America great! Joe BMW CCA Member 00 540i Sport 99 NSX-T 96 SC400 86 528e ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 2000 12:29:54 -0800 From: Gleb Arshinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Excessive wear on rear brakes :( >>>>> "Steven" == Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Steven> I asked this before but I don't recall anyone offering any Steven> advice. If someone did I might have missed it. Steven> The car: 1998 318ti. I have 20K miles and 6 driving Steven> schools on a set of Panther pads . The rear pads are Steven> shot. I have a little life on the fronts. It might be your traction control kicking in to stop rear wheel-spin. You may be particularly aggressive with throtle on the street, or you might keep traction control on at the track. Just a guess. Gleb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:28:37 -0500 From: "rd444" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] NCC Tour Why Hooters??? If we are going to do it lets do it right. We go to "the Block" in Baltimore and then cruise on up to NYC and take in the clubs up there. Then cruise back down hit "The Block" again and the hit clubs in DC. We can make it a charity event for every dollar you tip a dancer you match it for charity. Hire a bus so no one has to drive. Stay in first class hotels. Maybe we can win the Pirelli Award this year at Oktoberfest if they still give it out for the most money raised for charity by a chapter.. If you are going to have a politically incorrect tour you might as well go all the way. Dave Apker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:34:01 -0600 From: Scott Blazey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Looking for a history lesson Gilbert Hoffman wrote: > William wrote: > >I was watching the 12 hours of Sebring on Speedvision last weekend and it > >wan mentioned that the BMW V12 LMR was white because that is the national > >racing color of Germany. I remember Silver being the national racing color > >of Germany because Dr. Porsche refused to paint the 550 Spyder (for weight > >savings) at the begining of the season and the sanctioning body allowed him > >to use Silver as the car color. Does anyone know the story behind the > >national racing colors? The following was extracted from the F1 FAQ (http://www.atlasf1.com/2000/feb09/faq.html): >Question: "A recent question concerning the 'national racing color' of >Germany caused me to look at The Sporting Regulations (The Code) & The F1 >Regulations at the FIA website. In the F1 Regulations, I found that the >car's livery (colors) do not have to conform to the national colors I/A/W >The Code. Looking in the Sporting Regulations, I could not find any >reference to the national colors. At one time I know they existed. Where >are they and what are the national racing colors of each country? Leroy H." >Answer: I asked our expert, Don Capps, about this one. He says that as >far as national racing colours go, they had a similar story to car numbers >- it was at the discretion of individual race organisers as to what they >were and how strict they were to be adhered to. > >Italy, for example, wanted to be blue, its national sporting colour (it >should be noted that the colours of the Italian flag, green, white & red >were not chosen by Italians, but by a Frenchman, Napolean Boneparte). >France had taken blue already though and weren't giving it up. So they >took red as a second choice, despite the fact the red had already been >used by the United States. White was Germany's colour, although Japan >would adopt it later. Germany was later to adopt the silver look but that >was coincidence as the Mercedes and Auto Unions weren't painted to save >weight. > >British cars have always tended to be green. Rob Walker once had some fast >explaining to do at a German Grand Prix why his dark blue Coopers weren't >green. The explanation he barely got away with was the dark blue >represented Scotland. Orange was used by Brunce McLaren for his cars >because he liked the colour, not because it was New Zealand's (which >would surely be all black?). The first Brabhams were a powder blue before >later adopting Australia's national sporting colours of Green and Gold. >Lotus were putting yellow stripes on their green cars further confusing >the issue. Canada had an interesting scheme featuring red, white and >black. > >But there were never any real hard and fast rules about national colours, >at least not consistent ones. FWIW, - --Scott Blazey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:33:07 -0800 (PST) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: [uuc} <e36> Suspension Install Vijay try these to sites on for size, http://mx1.xoom.com/uberjeph/ for suspension install. And http://www.racepad.com for rear shock mounts. Also look at mz3.net, I recall it has pretty good sway bar install pictures. - -Carlos 91 M3 ...hope to see you at Grattan again, or Mid-Ohio, or ... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:37:15 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Rear camber adjustments Has anyone installed the adjustable rear camber bushings that BAS, BMP, or others sell. I am redoing the suspension in my E-34 (springs, shocks, 17" wheels, etc.) and want to be able to adjust rear camber 1-2 deg + or - . Any info on how difficult the installation was and how happy you are with the results would be helpful Joe Stancampiano ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:46:05 -0800 (PST) From: aa ww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] WTB: getrag 260/6 from 86-88 5/6/7 Looking for a used 5-speed to put into my 86 735i. Located in Syracuse area. Thanks, Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:40:22 -0500 From: Ken Juul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] e30 front end vibes <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2650.12"> <TITLE>e30 front end vibes</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>my 87 325ic has about 270K on it. The front end = shimmies from about 55-65 mph. I suspect the control arm bushings = are going because I can get side to side play by pushing the control = arm with a large screw driver. I do not have the maint. history = for the car. I'm at least the 3rd owner, I've only had it about = 60K. The rest of the control arm and tie rod ball joints feel = tight, but I haven't disassembled or disconnected the strut so there = was pressure on the joints when I was checking. I'm leaning = toward a complete rebuild, but don't want to spend the bucks if all I = need is new bushings. Any advice or troubleshooting be much = appreciated. Also best place to get the parts. = TIA</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ken Juul</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Tidewater, VA </FONT> </P> </BODY> </HTML> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:46:46 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] <E28> Oil Filter >OK, so I finally bought a bunch of "good" Mahle oil filters, instead of the >usual Purolator from Pep Boys (sorry). The Mahle comes with a nice plastic >baggie with 1 big O-ring, 1 tiny O-ring, and 3, IIRC, aluminum washers. I >know where the big O-ring goes, and where 1 of the washers goes (oil pan >drain bolt), but, I don't know about the tiny O-ring or the other 2 washers. > >Is this just a case where this filter fits several model types so they >include multiple washers and some O-ring which some other model takes? If >so, just out of curiosity where does that tiny O-ring go anyway? Yes. I have a collection of them. On other model engines (M50 fer' instance) - the bolt that goes through the oil filter cover, the filter and all the way down to the bottom of the housing has this tiny O ring on it. If you didn't have it - the filter wouldn't pressurize. Good thing on this design: the filter housing drains back into the sump when you remove the bolt, so it's nice and empty and dry for the new filter/oil. Bad thing on this design: the filter housing drains back into the sump - even if you try to prefill it so the filter has some oil in it lessening the dry-run time on initial startup after changing the filter. In life - there is good and bad - I think this one strikes a balance and there is no clear winner. You can do what I did - saved all those nice little O rings. Haven't thought of a good use for'm yet - but I have a nice collection.. As far as the extra crush ring(s) - one goes under the filter-bolt head. Replace at every change.. the other crush ring looks quite nice in the plastic bag with the excess O rings.. (I've actually USED the extra crush rings once or twice - on my BMW motorcycle, same size as the oil-drain one..) :-) >Rgds, >Chris Whitney >'88 535i, good to go for another 3K ................................................................... Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.monmouth.com/~deilenberger "You're absolutely right, and I apologize" --Darryl Richman "Silly me... I apologize." --Tim Hall "Sorry..." --Magwa ................................................................... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:43:49 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Excessive wear on rear brakes :( >It might be your traction control kicking in to stop rear wheel-spin. >You may be particularly aggressive with throtle on the street, or you >might keep traction control on at the track. Just a guess. Have you thought about a rear caliper rebuild as well? Fun little messy job. - -Carlos 91 M3 ...doing a couple of rebuilds tonight! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:52:47 -0600 (CST) From: Jefrem Iwaniw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Looking for a history lesson On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Scott Blazey wrote: <snip> > The following was extracted from the F1 FAQ > (http://www.atlasf1.com/2000/feb09/faq.html): <snip> > >Italy, for example, wanted to be blue, its national sporting colour (it > >should be noted that the colours of the Italian flag, green, white & red > >were not chosen by Italians, but by a Frenchman, Napolean Boneparte). Actually, Napoleon Bonaparte (born "Buonaparte") was Corsican, not French, by birth. This combined with the fact that there was no Italy, per se, *before* Napoleon, may cast some doubt about some of the other statements made in the article. But, probably not :=). OBMWC -- those of you in the DFW and Houston areas -- don't forget that there's a BMW (and Porsche) club race at TWS this weekend! - -jefrem ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #476 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Curry's Auto Service . http://www.currysauto.com | Eurosport . http://www.eurosport-hp.com | Koala MotorSport . http://www.koalamotorsport.com | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | The Ultimate Garage . http://www.ultimategarage.com | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com | Zionsville Autosport . http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ����������������������������������������
