[uucdigest] Saturday, March 25 2000 Volume 03 : Number 507 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Car Prices [uuc] Re: Brakes squealing like a stuck pig Re: [uuc] Body Shop wanted in Orange County Calif. [uuc] NJ chapter Lime Rock run was fun [uuc] BMW for Sale ? Looks like not. [uuc] BMW for sale - more [uuc] <e28> Too much rubber? [uuc] 5.75" E-code conversion [uuc] weight shift [uuc] Kumho 711 Ecsta - good? bad? ugly? [uuc] <E-28> Suspension help needed [uuc] CD Troubles [uuc] F1: Brazil starting grid [uuc] Buckeye School at Mid-Ohio?? [uuc] 2002tii brake caliper rebuilds ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:29:08 -0800 From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Car Prices Alex Fadeev wrote: >Forget about KBB. It's retail prices are bordering >unreasonably high (rivaled only by Roundel adds). Kelley Blue Book retail prices are what a BMW dealer will typically sell a super clean detailed used car with some sort of warrantee for to someone who is afraid to look at a private party car. Along with Roundel and Robb Report adds the KBB retail print outs are great to use when you are SELLING a used car to try and keep the price high ("Look your getting a great deal, here's a used 540i in the Robb Report for $100K") >Try www.nada.com (right on the money) or >www.edmunds.com (a bit on the low side - good for >you, the buyer). As a BUYER I have also used Edmunds print outs to try and get the price down. It seems easier to negotiate when it's not you telling the guy the car is worth a lot less than he is asking ("Look new M5s are much less than $100K and Edmunds says your 540i is worth......."). Kevin Kelly BMW CCA 50039 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 10:54:24 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Brakes squealing like a stuck pig Right idea, wrong scenario. The original poster has already stated that the pads are jammed into the brackets. The piston pushes the pad against the rotor, but when the piston pressure is relieved, the pad can't back off. Cleaning the brackets, lubing them and installing pads that fit will probably solve this problem. > From: Ken W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [uuc] Brakes squealing like a stuck pig > > Are you sure that one of your brake caliper pistons isn't sticking and > needing a rebuild? If it is sticking, it could be keeping the pad > pressed up against the rotors causing constant squealing. > - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 11:01:43 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Body Shop wanted in Orange County Calif. Try Harbor Body Works in Costa Meesa. -2000 block of Placentia ave. Ask for Van Douglass (owner). Does a lot of Porsches, BMWs. Did an excellent job on my 3.0 coupe. Pays attention to detail and will work with enthusiatic owners. best of luck, paul cain 3.8 CSi ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 11:15:49 -0500 From: "Holmes, Michael A (Michael)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] NJ chapter Lime Rock run was fun Hi to anyone who was there. What a perfect day ! Had tones of fun, met some cool people, but I think even as a relative novice I managed to cook my brakes, there is a slight high frequency vibration when braking now. Those Euro front rotors I saw on some cars sure sounded like they do the job, you can hear them cooling and "tinking" as they contract. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Brett Anderson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 10:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] Re: Brakes squealing like a stuck pig > > Right idea, wrong scenario. > > The original poster has already stated that the pads are jammed into the > brackets. > > The piston pushes the pad against the rotor, but when the piston pressure > is > relieved, the pad can't back off. > > Cleaning the brackets, lubing them and installing pads that fit will > probably solve this problem. > > > > From: Ken W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [uuc] Brakes squealing like a stuck pig > > > > Are you sure that one of your brake caliper pistons isn't sticking and > > needing a rebuild? If it is sticking, it could be keeping the pad > > pressed up against the rotors causing constant squealing. > > - -Ken > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 11:16:59 -0500 From: "Adam Fila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] BMW for Sale ? Looks like not. Read the story on AP: <http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20000321/bs/germany_bmw_2.html> Some excerpts: "Tuesday March 21 2:37 PM ET A spokesman for the Quandt family, which owns 48 percent of BMW, denied it was being primed for sale, saying that the family was not in talks to sell its stake. ``One would never sell such a pearl,'' spokesman Thomas Gauly said. ``Enthusiasm for BMW lives on in the fourth generation of Quandts.'' and .. "As for BMW, analysts say the decision on the company's future independence lies with the Quandt family, which neither needs nor apparently wants to sell. ``You almost have to be German to understand the enormous prestige attached to the Quandt family in owning BMW,'' Little said. ``They are wealthy beyond belief and selling it could actually cause them more problems in trying to figure out where to invest all that money.''" - -Adam Fila '95 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 11:21:09 -0500 From: "Adam Fila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] BMW for sale - more Also on Reuters: <http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000320/bs/bmw_quandt_1.html> Quote: "Monday March 20 5:42 AM ET MUNICH (Reuters) - BMW AG's major shareholder the Quandt family on Monday quashed speculation it was interested in selling its 48 percent stake in the company to Ford Motor Co or other rival car makers. A spokesman for the billionaire German industrial dynasty said the family had no reason to sell its stake and had no interest in doing so. BMW last week jettisoned its loss-making UK Rover subsidiary and sold off Land Rover to Ford. The spokesman said that the family was not in talks with Ford -- the world's second-biggest car maker -- or with any other rival car company, about selling its stake. ``The Quandt family has given no one the task of finding solutions for BMW because there is no reason to nor an interest in selling BMW,'' Quandt family spokesman Thomas Gauly said. ``There have been no talks with Ford or with any other auto maker. Any reports to the contrary are speculation and without any substance whatsoever,'' he added." - -Adam Fila '95 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:25:53 -0500 From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <e28> Too much rubber? I just picked up a set of Borbet Type H wheels - 16" - from an E39 owner. They are fitted with 3 good and 1 bad Pirelli Winter 210 Asimmetrico snow tires. These tires are 225/55-16. Dunlop D60A2 225/50-16 is what I plan to buy for these wheels (20mm offset). I know I will have to make or buy shim rings to locate the hub on center. Since I've been running 220/55-390 TRX's on a 22mm offset, there's little doubt in my mind that the 225/50s will work. My question is about the 225/55-16 snows. I would like to be able to use these tires if possible next winter - either move them back to the Borbet wheels, or buy some steels. Are these too big for my car? I don't have the shims to be able to drive on them ... and the defective tire is REAL ugly - I don't know if I'd trust if for even a short ride. TIA ... Karl Zemlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BMWCCA 82366 Indianapolis '85 535i 5 spd, 173,000 miles - with spiffy new wheels ... in the garage. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 13:12:50 -0500 From: Patrick Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] 5.75" E-code conversion I haven't ordered through this company yet, but they seem to be one of the very few AutoPal retailers in the US. I sure do like those Cibies that Talbot and Stern offer, but... $$$ ow. AutoPal quad round 5.75" e-code conversion lamps (sans bulbs) are listed @ $79.90 plus $7 shipping in the US, which seems like a pretty good deal compared to ~$200 for a set of Cibie lamps (of course, I write that never having used either the AutoPals or Cibies, so...). http://www.autooptiks.com Specifically, http://www.autooptiks.com/convmat.html Their prices on bulbs are outrageous though, and I don't see anything but ion this and dichrotic that, so I suspect one's best bet would be to order the lamps through them, sourcing normal clear bulbs locally or through some other mail order business. If I can ever actually bring myself to drop more than $6 each on a headlight, I'll sent a note to the list giving a thumb's up or down. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:04:00 -0700 From: Bob Sutterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] weight shift Dave at the office is enamored of Big 'Murrican Arrn - specifically Corvettes. We took a long lunch Friday for him to inspect and negotiate the purchase of an '88. It was a nice spring day and I felt like driving across town and back, so we put all his inspection stuff in my car. When he set his 8 ton floor jack in my trunk, the springs sagged a bit. His toolbox, and the rest of the buyers guides and option decoder manuals, rode up front with him. After a successful negotiation and a quick lunch at Carls Jr., we had the sunroof open and the windows down, in high spirits enjoying the trip back to the office. From westbound Colfax St. onto southbound I-25, there's a lovely ramp that involves a diving turn to the right into a left sweep under the freeway before a climb to join the freeway traffic. The yellow diamond signs claim it is to be done at 25mph, but that's for Buicks and minivans. So with a clear lane ahead we headed in at a somewhat brisker pace. At the bottom of the curve, as I was unweighting the left side springs and setting up for the climbing turn to the left, we heard a tremendous THUD. The tail of the car jumped to the right, and suddenly I was in quite a bit more oversteer than I had expected. After a brief visit inside the left lane stripe and a good close look at the left wall, we got everything sorted out and re-balanced, and headed on our way up to the freeway. >From the sound that jack made, I was imagining everything from a splintered battery box to an outward dent in the right rear fender. As it turned out, nothing was damaged. Moral of the story: Secure movable objects before spirited driving, especially heavy hunks of steel on casters, especially if they're way at the back where they have a long lever arm around the CG. - -- Bob Sutterfield '87 E30 325iS BMWCCA #169277 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 15:10:42 -0500 From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Kumho 711 Ecsta - good? bad? ugly? A local tire shop has Kumho 711 225/50-16 - v rated for $75 each. Seems like a good price on a good looking tire. Any reason I shouldn't buy these tires? Karl Zemlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] BMWCCA 82366 Indianapolis '85 535i 5 spd, 173,000 miles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:41:38 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] <E-28> Suspension help needed Oh Great Digest...(I'm in a prone/bowing of head position)...give to me large knowledge of suspesion. Hopefully the gods are appeased. Now, I've got an 87 535is that's pretty much stock, but for the 16"wheels and 225/45 A520's and 750 control arm bushings. It has developed a strange reaction to sharp bumps over the last 3 weeks. Sharp suspension travel seems to cause the rear to yaw to the right! Go figure. Smoother bumps, dips in the road, etc. don't have the effect. However, bridge-road connections, expansion joints, and the like make the tail step out "noticably" to the right. The other night I crossed a section of pavement at hi(gh)way speed, that has been rippled by the Carolina heat in mid corner. The back end stepped out with purpose, and as Mr. Sphincter harvested large chunks of seat cushion, I was forced to mentally review the death and dismemberment section of my insurance policy. I've briefly crawled under the beast and have not noticed anything burnt, bent, or missing. The physics alone are somewhat baffling as a yaw reaction to compression seems out of place. The car tracks straight at all speeds (into triple) and doesn't seem to reflect any other odd behavior. (Other than water on the floor/trunk, brake pressure accumulator failure, control arm bushing death, large bills for guibo replacement !?!, and any other common E-28 maladies) Anybody have a clue? Chris Rucci 87 535is 96 Trooper (I've got big dogs) 99 Camry (Her company car) 00 Ducati 748S ------------------------------ Date: 25 Mar 2000 14:18:46 -0800 From: Alan Bruner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] CD Troubles Hello, I'm a new subscriber, and this is my first time to post. Thank you for creating this forum for the exchange of ideas and informatioin. Here is my first question: I have a trunk mounted Alpine CD player (P/N 88 88 1 600 249/250)in my '92 325i. I was changing some of the CD's and must have put one in backwards or upsidedown or something, because I got an error message - "disc error" - on the radio's display. No big deal, I'll just walk around back and straighten things out. WHAT??? Now the magazine that holds all six discs won't eject. And I don't have a radio manual to explain how to get myself out of this mess. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance for your replies. Alan Bruner Omaha, NE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____________________________________________________________________ For the largest MP3 index on the Web, go to http://mp3.altavista.com ____________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 15:06:21 -0800 (PST) From: david kroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] F1: Brazil starting grid After a really strange qualifying session: Pos Driver Team Time 1 Hakkinen McLaren Mercedes 1m14.111 2 Coulthard McLaren Mercedes 1m14.285 3 Schumacher Ferrari 1m14.508 4 Barrichello Ferrari 1m14.636 5 Fisichella Benetton Playlife 1m15.375 6 Irvine Jaguar 1m15.425 7 Frentzen Jordan Mugen 1m15.455 8 Zonta BAR Honda 1m15.484 9 Button Williams BMW 1m15.490 10 Villeneuve BAR Honda 1m15.515 11 R Schumacher Williams BMW 1m15.561 12 Trulli Jordan Mugen 1m15.627 13 Wurz Benetton Playlife 1m15.664 14 Verstappen Arrows Supertec 1m15.704 15 Alesi Prost Peugeot 1m15.715 16 De La Rosa Arrows Supertec 1m16.002 17 Herbert Jaguar 1m16.250 18 Gene Minardi Fondmetal 1m16.380 19 Heidfeld Prost Peugeot 1m17.112 20 Diniz Sauber Petronas 1m17.178 21 Mazzacane Minardi Fondmetal 1m17.512 22 Salo Sauber Petronas 1m18.703 ===== David Kroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 18:26:54 -0500 From: Christian Bernhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Buckeye School at Mid-Ohio?? Do any of the members of the digest have any information about whether/when the Buckeye Chapter will be having a driving school at Mid-Ohio this spring? I haven't been able to find any information on this in the Roundel or at the National website. Any information would be appreciated as I would really enjoy attending a school at mid-Ohio this year. Thks, Chris Bernhardt 95 325is ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 19:40:14 -0500 From: Grady Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] 2002tii brake caliper rebuilds I just picked up a 73 2002tii. The front calipers seem to be binding/not releasing. Where is a good place to pick up rebuild kits? Is there a site on rebuiding these? Any insights from the list's vast bank of info? TIA. Proud new owner of a 2002tii. Grady ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #507 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Curry's Auto Service . http://www.currysauto.com | Eurosport . http://www.eurosport-hp.com | Koala MotorSport . http://www.koalamotorsport.com | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | The Ultimate Garage . http://www.ultimategarage.com | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com | Zionsville Autosport . http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ����������������������������������������
