[uucdigest]          Thursday, March 30 2000          Volume 03 : Number 540



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] Do you believe SnakeOil ads? Think again
       Re: [uuc] Bringing your own eggs
       Re: [uuc] Re: Xenon lights
       [uuc] E28 short shift
       [uuc] FOR SALE: Service/Inspection RESET Tool for 1988-present
       RE: [uuc] Do you really want Xenon lights?
       Re: [uuc] 91 735il EDC front strut inserts $522 each!!!  Options?
       [uuc] Re: animal oils in anything
       [uuc] West D.C./Alexandria pre-purchase shops
       [uuc] M3 4 sale
       [uuc] RE: [uucdigest] V3 #537
       Re: [uuc] Frank Fahey Motorsports
       [uuc] BMW Problems Wanted.
       Re: [uuc] M3 4 sale
       Re: [uuc] West D.C./Alexandria pre-purchase shops
       Re: [uuc] M3 4 sale
       Re: [uuc] 98 pre-production M3 has a 328ic
       Re: [uuc] Re: animal oils in anything

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:57:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Joe Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Do you believe SnakeOil ads? Think again

Oil Additive Firms Settle With Government 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Dura Lube will pay $2 million in 
consumer redress to settle charges that performance claims 
for its engine treatments were un*ubstantiated, the Federal 
Trade Commission announced Wednesday. The FTC said it would 
distribute the redress. Also settling was Motor Up, which 
agreed to cease making 
the claims but did not pay. 

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:59:24 -0600
From: "Daniels, Jason S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Bringing your own eggs

Don't you guys hate those arrogant bastards that own shops. I found a great
little shop for you people in the western suburbs of Chicago. It's called
Mike & Henry's on Ogden Ave in Western Springs, IL SMALL SHOP, but 2 old
German guys that work on everybodies p cars, audi's, bmw's, and VW's in the
area. They are very capable, don't have an attitude, don't rip people off,
and generally don't have too long a waiting list to get in. E30 325i valve
adj, Written Velves (german) on the invoice $79.00 including the gasket.
Good bargin.

They were replacing a clutch in a C4 when I was there the other day, Car
had only 8K on it...OUCH!!

Jason Daniels

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [uuc] Bringing your own eggs
> Date: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 3:00 PM
> 
> 
> >Bad analogy frequently propagated by some mechanics (regardless of their
> >aptitude).
> >Goes into the same bin as dealers chastising folks for bargaining on the
> new
> >car prices while we rarely bargain in the grocery store.

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:09:51 -0500
From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Xenon lights

somewhat OT, but has anyone noticed that Audi's Xenon's seem much more
bluish/purplish than BMW or Merc ??  The Audi lights almost seem to be the fake
"blue" bulbs sometime because they change with the angle of the lighte relative
to my view of them too.

I am also noticing that the Acura ones are slightly different in hue from others
as well.  I can't quite pick out the car's make from the light alone, but I'm
getting close - true trainspotting....

I can remember when Halogen lights first came in & how bright they were compared
to other bulbs, now the Xenon/HID's are having the same effect.



Ben

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:17:51 -0500
From: "Phemister, George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] E28 short shift

Shiv Sikand < asks
Subject: [uuc] <e28> Shortshifter question

My M5 can pop out of third gear under heavy decceleration. I checked the
TSB's and there is one I found on the NHTSA site for this involving a
new detent spring. I ordered the part and had it installed according to
the instructions.>>>>>>>>>..

I'd be looking at motor and trans mounts first.

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Date: 30 Mar 2000 07:41:26 -0800
From: Theo Teazis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] FOR SALE: Service/Inspection RESET Tool for 1988-present

FOR SALE: Service/Inspection RESET Tool for 1989-present

I have a R5 Peake Research reset tool for all 20-pin socket BMW's (1989-present, and 
some 1987 & 1988 cars). It is in excellent condition. For more info see 
"http://www.peakeresearch.com/products.shtml"

Asking $35 + shipping.

Please email to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" or call me at (714)377-3920.

Theo.
'97 M3 club racer
'85 M635 everyday

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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:15:07 -0800
From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Do you really want Xenon lights?

Matthew Shaw wrote:

> I realize that they provide better lighting, but
> they also make you stand out from the crowd.

On some nights it seems like half the cars on the Golden
Gate Bridge have Xenon lights.  If the dot com economy keeps
going strong it won't be long before you stand out from the
crowd in the Bay Area with non-Xenon lights.

Thi VanAusdal wrote:

>I drive an E30 with standard Wal-Mart sealed
>halogens, so I am jealous of anyone who can
>afford better.

You can replace all your lights for about $150 (a pair of
Hella H1s and a pair of Hella H4s).  For a couple more
dollars you can install a pair of Hella relays and upgrade
to 100W H1 bulbs and 55/100W H4 bulbs and end up with a
light output that IMHO is better than any stock car
including those with Xenon lights.  While everything is
apart I always powder cote the headlight rings black (I
tried spray painting the rings on my '76 2002 back in '82,
but most of it chipped off in a few months).  Save the
Wal-Mart halogens in the foam Hella boxes so you can put
them back in before you sell the car.

Kevin Kelly
Who has had the same set of 5" Hella H1s and H4s in almost a
dozen BMWs and who has the 7" Hella H4s he bought for his
2002 in the Range Rover

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:56:55 -0600
From: "Daniels, Jason S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] 91 735il EDC front strut inserts $522 each!!!  Options?

Kyle,

Yes I do. I had the same car. I had the same problems. I converted to the
NORMAL suspension. Call BMP in Tyler, TX. They have the conversion kit. The
whole package minus springs will set you back about $1000.00 This includes
the EDC bypass pump kit. I got and installed mine 2 1/2 years ago and sold
it to a friend. 90K on the car since with no Probs. Ask about the pump
bypass from the power steering pump back As it is not included in the base
kit. You don't need it to do the conversion, but if you don't do it the
leveling pump will still run (connected to nothing) and eventually fail and
make lots of noise. Also the plugs that go on the ends of the line WILL
need to be BRAZED on. If you do not they WILL leak. Not right away, but
soon. (if you don't buy the full kit.) LOTS of pressure in the system. I
would not recommend this job to an untrained person.

Expensive but worth the conversion. And no future failures

Jason Daniels 

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> From: Kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [uuc] 91 735il EDC front strut inserts $522 each!!!  Options?
> Date: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 1:57 PM
> 
> Anybody know if it's worth it to change to a non-EDC
> suspension and what is involved?  OR does someone know
> where to get these things for far less than the
> dealer?  Thanks for any insight.
> 
> -Kyle
> 
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:03:17 -0500
From: "Gary M. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: animal oils in anything

PETA

People Eating Tasty Animals

and was the poster serouis about having a problem using animal products
to condition his LEATHER  (dead cow skin)!!!

you have to be kidding,  you dont mind sitting on a dead cow that was used
to make your seats, feed 100 people at mcdonalds, and maybe the by-products
were used in leather treatment.   I dont get it

Mike L.
lovin my leather in the M3 and 5,ver  but I do prefer the cloth 
of my sparko!

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:07:38 -0500
From: "Beaudette, Roland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] West D.C./Alexandria pre-purchase shops

I'm considering an 85 635csi located in the D.C. area.  Naturally (since I
learned my lesson from the last car), I would like a pre-purchase on the
vehicle.  I know that the owner works in Chantilly, VA and lives somewhere
west of D.C.  Could any listers recommend a shop which would be competent to
inspect a 6 series?  While I'm at it, what kind of tests/inspections should
a competent shop perform?  That is, if I have to find my a shop on my own, I
would like to know how to investigate whether a shop is up to the task.

Thanks.

Roland

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:27:08 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] M3 4 sale

Came across this the other day & it looked odd... any insite into what it is?
94 M3? not an E36 is it?
286 hp?
50G's?
Lightweights don't have sunroofs & a/c do they?

Lee
97' M3/4

Year: 1994
Make: BMW
Model: M3/2
KMs: 54875
Outside Color: Dakar Yellow
Inside Color: Black Cloth
Features: Manual Transmission, EuroSpec Engine: 286hp, Limited Production Car:
#22 out of 45 in North America, Airbags,
Power Sunroof, Armrest, Heated Seats, Air Conditioning, Special Alloys, Radio
Package
Vehicle Location: B-K Motors
Sales Price: $49,995.00

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:28:12 -0800
From: "Jerry Chyo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: [uucdigest] V3 #537

I hear medical science has come up with a cure for your problem, but the
animal rights people (no, not Ken) are throwing fits because of all the
wasted baboon brains going into lunkhea...the afflicted.

hopethishelps. :^)

jerrychyo'88m5'72tii

PS Do you realy have a Hartge?  Nice.

HartgeH23 rambled:

> ohrobitwasasmartassanswertoallthebitchingoverthef1postyouknowhowev
> eryonekeepsg
> oingonandonaboutthef1postandonandonandonandonandthelikeactuallyisi
> gneduptoseed
> etailsonfixingproblemsandpartsthatmaybenlaetcbutwegoononononandona
> boutthesames
> ubjectsoifelt LIKESHOUTING
> soiusedthecaplockbutton!butjustforyouillstayawayfromitandalltheoth
> erbuttonstha
> tmayannoyyoutoday

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:25:30 -0800
From: Keith Wollenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Frank Fahey Motorsports

>Phil Bell asked:

>I'm trying to locate Frank Fahey Motorsports in San Diego.  <snip> I've 
>tried a
>couple of search engines but no luck.  If you know the URL, please
>forward to me.

www.frankfaheymotorsports.com

Keith Wollenberg

BMW CCA
BMW ACA

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:34:23 -0500
From: "Neil Deshpande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] BMW Problems Wanted.

Juan:

This is a bit of a general question.  What kind of problems are you looking for?

1. The general type, like a jack that would lift the car and somehow prevent it from 
tipping over as you wrenched on lug bolts, a fuel leak detector (may not exist, but 
thinking them up would be the interesting part).  These may be used on many cars.

2. The specific type, like a tool to measure clutch wear, align lights, etc. (all of 
these exist now, but the same applies to those that do not).  These would be pretty 
car-specific.

Neil Deshpande
1988 325 iS
1989 325 iC

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I'm a Mechanical Engineering student at Stanford University and I am working on a 
project analyzing the problems mechanics and others encounter when they are working on 
cars.  

Juan Bruce 
BMW CCA GGC
'95 M3

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:44:44 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] M3 4 sale

That car is one of the 25 that were imported to Canada in 1994.  I had the 
pleasure of driving #13 of the 25 when a customer brought it down to Columbus 
for the CART race at Mid-Ohio.  Those cars had the 286hp 3.0L euro engine, a 
special plaque, and a special numbered leather owners book, it is probably 
still worth the 50k he wants for it, especially if it's 50K Canadien money.  
You owe it to your self to at least go look at it if it is close, but after 
driving #13, I've never wanted to live in Canada like I did that day.  Just a 
wonderful and rare M3.

Brian Leib
t.c.kline racing ProParts

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:44:38 -0500
From: Thomas Philip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] West D.C./Alexandria pre-purchase shops

It's a little bit outside West DC or Alexandria, but I recommend 
Curry's Auto Service in Chantilly.  703-502-0400.  I've never had a 
prepurchase done there, but everything they've done for my car and my 
friends has been top-notch work.  They've never hesitated to go the 
extra mile to get a job done right.  I've heard good things about J&F 
Autos on Four Mile Run Rd in Alexandria.  (don't have a phone # 
handy).

Std disclaimer: I've always gotten top-notch work out of Curry's, but 
I get nothing for recommending them.

Tom Philip
'94 325is

At 11:07 AM -0500 3/30/00, you wrote:

>  I'm considering an 85 635csi located in the D.C. area.  Naturally (since I
>  learned my lesson from the last car), I would like a pre-purchase on the
>  vehicle.  I know that the owner works in Chantilly, VA and lives somewhere
>  west of D.C.  Could any listers recommend a shop which would be competent to
>  inspect a 6 series?  While I'm at it, what kind of tests/inspections should
>  a competent shop perform?  That is, if I have to find my a shop on my own, I
>  would like to know how to investigate whether a shop is up to the task.
>
>  Thanks.
>
>  Roland

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:46:35 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] M3 4 sale

I was wrong, they did bring 45 cars to Canada, not 25 like I had said.  I had 
to go look at the pictures i tok.  I'll try to upload them later if I can.

Brian Leib

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:47:13 -0800 (PST)
From: John Stoj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] 98 pre-production M3 has a 328ic

Ahmad,

I understand your concern about getting your deposit back (although it
shouldn't have been an issue).  Now that you've got it though, if you want
to be truly chivalrous (and a good BMW CCA'er) try to let the new owner know
he just bought a stolen car - and probably overpaid for it too.  It may not
be possible, but it's worth a shot.

John





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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:50:11 -0500
From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: animal oils in anything

This is really going too far already.

Does anybody read ALL of a post before responding?

Ken W askd the question initially.  There were no moral overtones, no
horror - just plain curiousity.  He wanted to know what sort of animal oil
was used.

AND... as he has responded already to these attention-deficit-disorder
posts, he knows his seats are leather.  Ken eats meat, uses animal products,
but was simply asking a question.

Can we pay a little more attention to the actual question being asked
without making all sorts of assumptions?
Speaking of paying attention - your seat is a sparKo or sparCo?  Usually
it's printed right on the seat.

- - Rob

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Gary M. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: animal oils in anything
> and was the poster serouis about having a problem using animal products
> to condition his LEATHER  (dead cow skin)!!!
> you have to be kidding,  you dont mind sitting on a dead cow that was used
> to make your seats, feed 100 people at mcdonalds, and maybe the
by-products
> were used in leather treatment.   I dont get it
> Mike L.
> lovin my leather in the M3 and 5,ver  but I do prefer the cloth
> of my sparko!

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