[uucdigest] Monday, April 3 2000 Volume 03 : Number 560 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] SPRING SALE 96 328IC [uuc] E30 M3 gas mileage Re: [uuc] <E28>power antenna Re: [uuc] Re: Whadja find in dere? [uuc] Cat/exhaust for 88 M5 [uuc] 325/328 or m3? [uuc] Plastic impeller? Re: [uuc] 325/328 vs M3 Re: [uuc] 850CSi - 4 wheel steering?! [uuc] Re: [M3] E30 M3 CD-ROM Repair Manual Update. [uuc] Is the 850 worth buying RE: [uuc] Re: Whadja find in dere? [uuc] Re: Garage Floor Heat [uuc] Re: Microfilter ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:55:03 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hart) Subject: Re: [uuc] SPRING SALE 96 328IC Yes, bun warmers, sphinchter heaters, fat burners, whatever...the list of excuses go on, but they really are quite nice on the back actually, which is more than I can say for typing while lying down in bed at 2.30am..apologies! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 09:48:53 -0500 From: Michael Weishaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E30 M3 gas mileage I just took a trip downstate Illinois to visit my dad for his birthday, and went through almost 2 tanks of gas along the way. Averaged 29.7 mpg @ 66.7 mph for the entire trip. Not too shabby for a 12 year old car with 122k on the clock. Not too many Bimmers sighted along Rt 57 once you get out of Chicago, but when I did see one, I gave them the headlight flash. The only ones who responded were the ones driving older models, including another E30 M3!!! You don't see many of those in the middle-of-nowhere parts of Illinois. Michael 88 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 10:46:39 -0400 From: Chip Baines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E28>power antenna Chris: leads to the power antenna are as follows: Red: 12 volts always on. This lead has to be constant on so that the antenna motor can retract the mast after you turn the radio and/or ignition off. White: Antenna control lead from the radio. Most radios have a lead to control power antennas - that's what gets connected to this white antenna lead. This lead gets 12 volts when the radio is on and is either open circuit or grounded when the radio is off - I forget which. Black: ground. Black or grey coax cable - AM/FM signal. Most after market radios have a lead to control a power antenna - I'd be surpriswd if yours doesn't. I suggest you pull the radio from the dash and probe with a volt meter to see if there are any leads that are 12 volts when the radio is on and either ground or open circuit otherwise. On your Sony radio the antenna control lead is probably not white - it may be purple or some other color, so don't be fooled. If it turns there is no such lead, then you could try either (a) adding a manual switch so you can put the antenna up or down as needed (use an SPDT switch to apply 12 volts or ground to the white lead as needed), or (b) try connecting the white lead to a switched 12 volt source so that the antenna goes up whenever the ignition is on. Hope this helps. - -Chip Baines '86 528e '97 328iC > When I bought the 5er, it came with a Sony radio/tapedeck. However, > it was not hooked up to the power antenna, and I don't think it can. > So here's the problem... > > ...how do I get the power antenna to retract? I looked at it > yesterday and I see 4 wires connected to it: a large grey one (the > antenna itself), a thin black one (I assume it's the ground), a red > one, and a white one (both are for the power I assume). I coud find > no trace of any wire, except the antenna attached to the radio, in > the console area. Can I some how hotwire the darn thing to get it to > retract? I don't listen to the radio too much, and I am afraid of > vandals. TIA. > > Chris C > - -- > '83 528e ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 09:57:27 -0500 From: Michael Weishaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Whadja find in dere? I am just waiting for Steve D to chime in with "Now if you want a REAL penis pump, you need to get..." <BFG> Michael 88 M3 Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks wrote: > > The possible list of responses to this post is just too long and too scary > to fully contemplate. > > Okay, okay, just a couple of the cleaner ones... > > . Is it the same part number as in the BavAuto catalog? > . Do you suppose the owner got a CCA discount? The first "C" does not > stand for "Car"... > . Was it metric or SAE? > . Was it in the car because it required 12V power? > . Sure, you used tongs to carry it out... but did you use tongs on the > steering wheel? Didn't think so. > > - Rob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Craig Lovold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] Re: Whadja find in dere? > <snip> > > but nothing tops: > > > > 1 penis enlarger pump (I am not kidding, I have witnesses) - could have > > been adapted into an ok brake bleeder.... > > Craig Lovold ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:51:52 -0400 From: "Andrew Skopp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Cat/exhaust for 88 M5 I am getting prepared to bite the bullet and replace both the slowly dying catalytic converter and exhaust from the cat back on my 88 M5. All advice and suggestions are appreciated. Some questions: 1. Any thoughts on buying a used catalytic converter? 2. Any thoughts on aftermarket versus OEM? 3. Are M6 cats and exhausts interchangeable w/ M5? 4. I've done an M5 exhuast install, but not a cat install. How difficult is the cat? For a basis of comparison, I'd rate the exhaust install about a 3 on scale of 1 (easy) to 10 (hard). 5. How are people liking Rob Levinson's M5 exhaust? (Rob, do you have any more available? Can I commission one if I go that route?) Thanks much, Andrew Skopp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 08:09:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] 325/328 or m3? Duane Collie sez [of 325s/328s vs m3s]: >Now, after all that you STILL don't have the M3 brakes >(major difference), >the larger engine of the M3, the Limited Slip Rear >End, the body fascia >parts, the M3 seats, and the resale value of an M3 vs. >a souped up 325/28. Actually, some e36 325i's came with limited slip differentials. My 1992 came with a limited slip, production date 11/91. Duane, you also left out + much stronger ZF 5 speed gearbox in the M3 over the Getrag 250 in the 325i (don't ask me how I know) + Solid thrust arm bushing (in only the 95 M3) over 325/328/post 95 model M3s...This matters if you install very large brakes. the solid bushing minimizes shimmy. + Actually now, this is a little off-original-topic but if you ever transplant an M3 drivetrain to your 325i/328i, get the drivetrain from a stick shift 95 M3. Only this particular M3 has a six bolt flange where the diff meets the driveshaft. All other M3s only have a 4 bolt flange. Jason Leung 92 332i turbo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:13:10 -0500 From: "John Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Plastic impeller? Is there an easy way to check if my car has a plastic water impeller? I'm approaching the 50k mark, and would like to know. My mechanic will have the car this weekend for a tire change, so perhaps he could check as well. Thanks, John 95 325i ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:50:51 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] 325/328 vs M3 If you can trade up at a dealer, you pay sales tax only on the difference. At least here in Ohio. Of course, the dealer will want a substantial margin on the deal so you may not be better off. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I thought the same thing, and its true based on > selling prices...however keep in mind your states > sales tax. Here in TX doing this was going to cost me > an additional $2,000+ in sales tax on the M3 > > --- Duane Collie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > snip... > > > > In most cases, you'd be better off to sell the > > 325/28 and buy the same year > > M3 for the price differences involved. > > > > - Duane Collie > > THE SLED > > ===== > David Morrison > Austin TX > 96 BMW 328i Sedan > 85 4Runner Crawler, Lifted & Locked ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:29:54 -0400 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] 850CSi - 4 wheel steering?! along with the mentioned 3000GT VR-4, it's sister the Stealth Twin Turbo also had 4WS I believe. I could never convince my step-aunt to do 4500rpm clutch-dropping starts in it tho ;-) The early 90's Mitsu Galant VR-4 also had 4WS to go along with it's AWD & lots of other features. The current (R34) & I believe 2 prior generations (R33 & R32) Nissan Skylines have various versions of the HICAS system. I believe the Honda system was available in the two prior generations of Prelude, but not in the current one. as Honda have made the Integra Type R the widely recognized best handling FWD car ever w/o 4WS, it may be a moot point. Ben Keyes ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 10:41:34 -0500 From: Michael Weishaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: [M3] E30 M3 CD-ROM Repair Manual Update. This is the only 2.5 upgrade for my M3 that I can afford. :) Michael 88 M3, measley little 2.3 liter. Brett Anderson wrote: [snip] > V2.5 is available for an upgrade fee of $20. You will be required to return > your original CD and cover in order to qualify for the upgrade. (you can > keep the case if you need a spare...) > > Thanks > > Brett Anderson > www.koalamotorsport.com > Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:35:41 -0400 From: "Ken Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Is the 850 worth buying I am in the process of selling my 1992 325i, and the local dealer has an 850 (with a manual) that I am considering purchasing. My one big hesitation with purchasing the 850 is that I have heard numerous horror stories about the many problems of the car (e.g. electrical problems). Can any list members recommend (or caution) purchasing an 850 despite its problems? Also, any years or problem areas I should know about? TIA. Ken Ross - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of ben keyes Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 11:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] 850CSi - 4 wheel steering?! along with the mentioned 3000GT VR-4, it's sister the Stealth Twin Turbo also had 4WS I believe. I could never convince my step-aunt to do 4500rpm clutch-dropping starts in it tho ;-) The early 90's Mitsu Galant VR-4 also had 4WS to go along with it's AWD & lots of other features. The current (R34) & I believe 2 prior generations (R33 & R32) Nissan Skylines have various versions of the HICAS system. I believe the Honda system was available in the two prior generations of Prelude, but not in the current one. as Honda have made the Integra Type R the widely recognized best handling FWD car ever w/o 4WS, it may be a moot point. Ben Keyes ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:40:44 -0500 From: "Herb Stark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: Whadja find in dere? I bought a 1963 Fairlane Ford that had 4 slot machines in the trunk. These were the mechanical one arm bandits of the Nickel variety. I am sure they were illegal to even own at the time. I gave them to a friend with the understanding that he would give me one back restored and working. He never did. I put the 221 CI engine in a C gas dragster. Do not remember what I did with the car. Herb <Grinning> - ---Two Wheel Only Campground---at Blueberry Farm in Avinger Texas--- - ---800-559-1013-----Now Open ------Berries Fresh June and July--- - --------------------- http://www.herbstark.com --------------------- - ---- 1997 R1100RT "Hot Rod" ----BOOF#2--VI - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig Lovold Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 6:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: Whadja find in dere? Well, I have a list at home somewhere of all the stuff I found in a car I got from Chicago. (repo vehicle) The more interesting: 5 or 6 unused syringes 2 used syringes bag of liquid (unknown, I don't want to know) about 20 parking tickets spare bumper spare tire that had the wrong bolt pattern unopened bottle of champagne, with ice bucket but nothing tops: 1 penis enlarger pump (I am not kidding, I have witnesses) - could have been adapted into an ok brake bleeder.... Every day for about a week we would go down over lunch and sift through a little more stuff. This car was crammed full of interesting stuff. Craig Lovold ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:51:56 -0400 From: Jeff Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Garage Floor Heat Duane opines: >Wow, if I had to add a garage in from scratch, I'd look real hard at radiant >floor heat. I helped to install a radiant sub-floor system to heat the first floor of my parents house. The plumbing was handled by a family friend who's a commercial HVAC guy. I should snap a photo of the "control panel"--we have more valves and gauges (all commercial grade, not consumer crap) than the submarine on "Voyage to the bottom of the Sea" (or whatever that bad 60's sub show was called. The show where the sub always caught on fire--with tons of sparks--but the problem was solved by cranking a valve closed.) Anyhow, this is comfortable heat and extremely efficient. In the house you just want to kick your shoes off and enjoy it. It would make lying on the garage floor such a pleasure that you might forsake your creeper. The downside is that it's expensive to buy and install. We couldn't even get a contractor to bid on the project--they just kept telling my mother that it would be too expensive and "your husband won't want to spend that kind of money." Big mistake--one of these guys came back to do some other work and you should have seen his face when he caught a glimpse of the control panel. The only disadvantage to using it in a garage is that if a piece of the tubing fails, you have to destroy the floor and start from scratch. (Or install a gas heater and not use the expensive in-the-floor system.) I know they sell the system intending it be installed in concrete floors and in seven or eight years of use attached the basement ceiling we haven't had any problems. I don't know what the track record or service life of the system is when it's in a poured floor. I just remember someone mentioning that if there was a problem, there was no good way to affect repairs in such a situation. But I'd do it--it's that good. jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:54:55 -0400 From: Jeff Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Microfilter >I wrote wrote: > > As far as I can tell I removed the original filter >> (at 50K miles) david kroth replied >You can tell if its the original filter because >when they install it at the factory, they don't >have to "break" it in the middle to get it into >place, but you have to "break" it to get it out. Which is what lead me to believe that I removed the original filter--it didn't even have the "breaking slots". rgds jeff ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #560 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Curry's Auto Service . http://www.currysauto.com | Eurosport . http://www.eurosport-hp.com | Koala MotorSport . http://www.koalamotorsport.com | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | The Ultimate Garage . http://www.ultimategarage.com | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com | Zionsville Autosport . http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ����������������������������������������
