[uucdigest] Tuesday, April 11 2000 Volume 03 : Number 588 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] Brake pads [uuc] Re: 16 year old in Driving School? Re: [uuc] Why Not Silicone [uuc] Outside parking [uuc] Very Bad Fuel!!! ???? Re: [uuc] Outside parking [uuc] CD Changer Re: [uuc] Very Bad Fuel!!! ???? [uuc] Ventilation fans .....regurgitated [uuc] <E28> headlight wiring [uuc] Re: 16 year old in Driving School? Re: [uuc] 16 year old in Driving School? Re: [uuc] Re: <E46> feels like Honda Re: [uuc] <E28> headlight wiring RE: [uuc] <Cross Post> Battery Replacement and Battery Tender Recommendations <Frequent Question> RE: [uuc] E46 BMW is a Honda ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:51:24 -0500 From: "Daniels, Jason S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Brake pads at least we drink GERMAN N/A beer :). Besides until I get some easy to clean wheels, I'll stick with them. Also in the name of Marital bliss...no noise, and they work when cold... jason Daniels - ---------- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [uuc] Brake pads > Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 7:37 PM > > All I'm going to say is that brake pads that don't squeal or dust are the > beverage equivalent of non-alchoholic near-beer.......bunch of damn > sissies........ :-) > > Buuuuurrrrrrppppppp! > > M Sipe > racing pads/single-village mezcal drinker ------------------------------ Date: 11 Apr 2000 18:09:00 -0700 From: Gleb Arshinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: 16 year old in Driving School? >>>>> "Milo" == Milotaks1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Milo> I have been wanting to participate in a driving school Milo> for some time now, but everyone I apply for says you have to Milo> be 18. I believe some BMW CCA chapters (including Golden Gate, I think) allow 16+. Skip Barber was also 16+. I suspect most other commercial driving schools would be 16+ as well. Gleb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:12:06 -0400 From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Why Not Silicone I bet you just hated to see that go too. Did they ever send you a replacement? From: "Ron Katona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Jim Powell wrote: > > You can make Pamela Lee out of > > it. But it'll never stand up to friction and wear in a bushing. > > Yes, hence the great "Real Doll" recall fiasco of 1996. > -- > Ron Katona > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:17:57 -0700 From: Olivia Simantob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Outside parking Hi Everyone, I'm moving to a less-urban house with no covered parking. My car's paint is in pretty good condition and I would like to keep it looking the best possible. Are car covers worth the effort? Is it true they can actually scratch the paint if there's any dirt on the car? Should I even worry about parking outside at night in relatively warm Silicon Valley? Also, the convertible top is finicky, so with a covered spot I have been leaving it down on nice nights to avoid the wear and tear. Is this a bad idea, especially without a covered spot and in an area with bobcats and some other random animals? (I have no idea whether open cars look like playpens to large cats.) Thanks in advance for any advice or anecdotes. Olivia '93 325ic, black and tan, paw-print free ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:24:43 -0400 From: "David Ellsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Very Bad Fuel!!! ???? Well, my sweet running M44 just got choked on some very bad fuel. I just filled it with 93 octane gas at my favorite station and restarted...15 seconds later she is sick as a dog. Turns out the gas had killed 4 other cars and supposedly had just been pronounced clean and had fresh filters and all that. It looks like the gas itself is bad in some way. It is being piggy backed to Richmond BMW and I have to call them in the AM. Question: What should I expect and what should I watch out for??? Thanks, David and his very sick Alaska Blau ti:( ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:42:38 -0400 From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Outside parking At 6:17 PM -0700 4/11/00, Olivia Simantob wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >I'm moving to a less-urban house with no covered parking. I would cover my car even when it was dirty. I really did not notice any more scratches. But I would guess that may depend on the color. Black probably scratches if you look at it funny. But hey, birds poop at night too. :) Plus I liked the added protection against bicycle handlebars and grimmy little hands. I have found little hand prints on my cover. I think that would have scratched the car worse than a car cover blowing around on a dirty car. ...steven 1998 318ti RIP 1999 Ford ToyRUs rental :( ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:54:51 -0400 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] CD Changer I posted this here once before - it's off the BMW cars newsgroup on Usenet: >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: CD Changer for sale >Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:15:44 GMT >Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com > > >Pioneer 6 Disc changer works on 96-2000 3 series, 97-2000 5 series >only 8 weeks old still has10 months warranty. asking $225.00 plus >shipping email if interested thanks I know nothing about this changer or the person selling it, but wasn't Cellia(sp?) looking for a changer for her new 3 series? This is about 30% off the cheapest I've seen stock ones for sale from BMW dealers.. Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.monmouth.com/~deilenberger "You're absolutely right, and I apologize" --Darryl Richman "Silly me... I apologize." --Tim Hall "Sorry..." --Magwa "Sorry, no exceptions" --Roozbeh Chubak ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:48:20 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Very Bad Fuel!!! ???? Quite possibly water in the gas. If it were my car (and it *has* been my car with a tankful of gassy water), I would siphon it. Pick up a couple of extra-large plastic gas tanks and a siphon, get out as much as you can. Pour in a couple bottles of drygas, injector cleaner, some octane booster, and fill up with Premium fuel. Hopefully your car will run like normal once all the bad fuel in the fuel lines has run through. Do an oil change immediately. - - Rob Levinson - ----- Original Message ----- From: David Ellsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Very Bad Fuel!!! ???? > Well, my sweet running M44 just got choked on some very bad fuel. I just > filled it with 93 octane gas at my favorite station and restarted...15 > seconds later she is sick as a dog. Turns out the gas had killed 4 other > cars and supposedly had just been pronounced clean and had fresh filters and > all that. It looks like the gas itself is bad in some way. It is being > piggy backed to Richmond BMW and I have to call them in the AM. > Question: What should I expect and what should I watch out for??? > David and his very sick Alaska Blau ti:( ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:09:54 -0000 From: "BMW Bits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Ventilation fans .....regurgitated Havent seen anyone advise on this particular 'piece ' of this topic..... If you plan to exhaust paint fumes etc ,be SURE to get a fan with an explosionproof motor ....or they may find you in the next street after having done an aerial loop to get there. B P ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:15:13 -0400 From: Patrick Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E28> headlight wiring Okay, I'm confused. I've installed a set of Euro lights with 80/100W H4s and 100W H1s. The H1s are powered via a 40 amp Hella relay. The 100W beams on the H4s are powered via another 40 amp Hella relay. The 80W beams on the H4s are powered via yet another Hella relay. Each relay draws power directly from the positive battery terminal via a 12 guage lead with an inline fuse, 30 amps for the two relays running 200 watts, 20 amps for the relay running 160 watts. Two 12 gauge leads run from each relay to their respective filament connections. Each lamp is grounded directly via a 12 gauge lead, the right lamps to the chassis, the left lamps to the negative battery terminal. Every connector is crimped and soldered. All of this works nicely, as you might expect. But. I have a male H4 connector plugged into the left high/low beam socket to provide switching power to the relays, which are grounded directly to the negative battery terminal. All the stock wiring is intact so I don't have to unbutcher it when I eventually sell the car (plus, I just didn't want to make a mess). When I turn the headlamps on with the dimmer switch in the low beam position, the low beams come on as expected. When I move the dimmer switch to the high beam position, the high beams come on, but the low beams do not shut off. When moving the dimmer switch back to the high beam position, the low beams do not shut off. This is a great way to waste a pair of 80/100 watt H4 bulbs, as I recently learned. When I unplugged the male H4 lead and reconnected all four stock sealed beams, the lamps switched perfectly. I unplugged both high beam lamps. The high/low beams still switched perfectly. I plugged the H4 (relay switching power leads) back into the left high/low connector, leaving the sealed beam connected to the right high/low connector. The lamps switched perfectly (I had the foresight to purchase spare H4 bulbs...) until I went to shut them off. If I move the off/parking/headlight switch from 'headlights on' to parking or off with the dimmer switch in the low beam position, the headlights shut off. But if I move the headlight power switch to parking or off with the dimmer switch in the high beam position, all six filaments light up. So. So I unplugged the male H4 lead from the left high/low socket and checked voltage at each power lead. With the sealed beam still connected to the right high/low socket, when I shut the lights off with the dimmer switch in the low beam position, power to the socket is killed. But when I shut the lights off with the dimmer switch in the high beam position, power to the low beam is 12 volts, and power to the high beam is ~6 volts, which seems to be enough to keep the Hella 40 amp relays from switching off. Who's run into this and figured it out? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:09:20 -0700 From: Roger Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: 16 year old in Driving School? Hey Milo, you just missed one. We just had a driving school last weekend up at Thunderhill and accepted people over 16 (Shelby Club). Unfortunately, we only do one a year so it won't happen again until next April. Roger Baker NORCAL SAAC - -- 1992 325 M-Technic, AA Stage 1+ Turbo Track Toy 2000 VW Jetta Commuter Car 1996 Kawasaki ZX-6R The FAST One "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: > I have been wanting to participate in a driving school for some time now, > but everyone I apply for says you have to be 18. I guess this is because of > insurance or some legal stuff. Does anyone know of ANY driving school(BMW > affiliated or no) that will except someone under 16. Thanks! > > Milo > 95 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:16:38 -0400 From: Will Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] 16 year old in Driving School? You can go to any driving school that you want, you just have to know what to ask for. I myself am 17 years old and I participate in any driving school that I can and have been since I was 16. The last school I was at was Winterfest 2000, sharpening up on my Sebring skills :) What you need to do is ask for a Minor Release Form, it is a form that you and your parents sign waiving any liability. Any chapter event has these forms, however I was not able to participate in the Peachtree's Road Atlanta school, I think the track requires you to be 18. But other than that, you shouldn't have any problems. Will Gilbert 99 ///M3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:33:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Timothy Fries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: <E46> feels like Honda Actually there are to essential items that you must equip the e46 with. The first, of course, is the manual tranny so the engine can be handled like it was meant to be. How is that? It's to rev the hell out of it(like a Honda). The term "free-revving engine" was used for BMW while Honda was only making economy cars. The other essential is the sport package which is a very nice setup, especially in the coupe, where it is outfitted with 17X8 wheels on the 323. Since the manual is standard, the only item you need to spend cash on is the sport package which gives you a very nice enthusiasts' car out of the box, everything else is superficial. - -Tim Y2K 323Ci (5SP/SPORT/& some other superficial stuff) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:06:19 -0400 From: Patrick Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E28> headlight wiring Newsflash: running a regular relay in the low beam relay slot (instead of a diode equipped relay) in an E28 will make it do some really weird sh*t. So now the headlights turn on and off just fine, high or low beam, as long as I have _some_ kind of current running from the high beam to ground on the right high/low socket. Right now, I've got one of the old sealed high beam lamps plugged into it to do that job. But I'm kind of curious as to what causes power to go to the high and low beam leads if there's nothing drawing current from them and the power switch is shut off with the dimmer switch in the high beam position. Strange... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:56:39 -0700 From: "John Caramagno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] <Cross Post> Battery Replacement and Battery Tender Recommendations <Frequent Question> The Battery Tender is the the best. Most motorcycle parts suppliers sell it. John Caramagno Carol Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dorffer, Rich Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 10:17 AM To: 'E36M3'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [uuc] <Cross Post> Battery Replacement and Battery Tender Recommendations <Frequent Question> I have a 95 M3 (with the original battery). Looks like the battery is on its last legs (reasonable life span from previous posts). I have seen random recommendations varying from Optima to Interstate. My first question: What does the group recommend as the easiest replacement (little or no retrofitting to factory location which provides factory amperage at a more reasonable price than the factory OEM battery (what is the part # and MSRP). Where can you buy your recommendation and how much? Second question: What does the group recommend for a battery tender? I stored my car without one this winter knowing the battery was just about done anyway but would like to avoid doing this to a new battery next year. Where can you buy your recommendation and how much? Sorry this question gets asked a lot but I believe there may be some updates from the last time this was asked that could help the group get up to speed on the current status of the battery replacement and maintenance market. Thanks in advance. Best regards, Rich ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:58:06 -0700 From: "John Caramagno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] E46 BMW is a Honda Probably doesn't have the sport package. John Caramagno Carol Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 1:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] E46 BMW is a Honda I am currently driving a E46 323ci. that the dealer let me borrow until my car is fixed. i feel this car is a beautiful car that handles well but the car has more wind noise than the E36 and feels like a marshmallow the steering is very dead and just does not make me feel very spirited at all. in fact it made me want to take a nap. after this drive I am not sure what I will do when my cars come off lease this year. Brian Jacobs 98 318ti 99 Z3 coupe Everglades CCA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #588 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Curry's Auto Service . http://www.currysauto.com | Eurosport . http://www.eurosport-hp.com | Koala MotorSport . http://www.koalamotorsport.com | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | The Ultimate Garage . http://www.ultimategarage.com | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com | Zionsville Autosport . http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ����������������������������������������
