[uucdigest]          Tuesday, April 18 2000          Volume 03 : Number 614



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] <E36> Engine knocking / Door noises / UDE comments
       Re: [uuc] CR Wax
       Re: [uuc] <E28> with a clunk
       [uuc] Bilstein shocks
       Re: [uuc] Zymol Wax
       [uuc] <E28> Re: Metric Mechanic Engines
       [uuc] Wax
       [uuc] RE: <E28> with a clunk
       Re: [uuc] CR Wax
       [uuc] <E28> With a Click
       RE: [uuc] Nail in tire
       Re: [uuc] Nail in tire
       [uuc] Re: E36 parts falling off.
       [uuc] Toyo RA1 tire flip
       Re: [uuc] negative camber woes, Kumho's rubbing struts
       [uuc] RE: <E28> Metric Mechanic Engines

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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 01:48:46 -0700
From: Herman Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <E36> Engine knocking / Door noises / UDE comments

Hey Folks,

Looking for answers for these two maladies: (92 318is, 78k)

1) Engine knock under load -- occurs when pulling away from a stop 
sign on a hill or goosing the throttle while going up a hill.  Car 
has original Jim C chip, and has had a diet of name brand (Chevron or 
76) premium gas all its life.

Crappy (but expensive) gas?  Carbon buildup?  Techron/BG44k time? 
Italian tune-up?  Any component failures to check for?

Engine seems to run fine aside from knock.  Only recent problem was a 
check engine light for lambda control (1222), which extinguished 
itself after I poked around the O2 sensor and probed for intake 
leaks.  No current codes.  The plugs and O2 sensor are well within 
expected lifespan (<20k miles on both).  I pulled the plugs (NGK 
BKR6EK)  and they look fine.

Still, I believe the engine may be running slightly rich, since the 
gas mileage has dropped 2-3 mpg from its historical average and a 
slightly sooty tailpipe.  To offset this however, I do have to factor 
in that my driving pattern has flopped from 80% freeway/20% city to 
20/80 for the past year.  Plus less-efficient California-RFG blend 
gas.



2) Rubbing/scratchy noise from driver's door over bumps/rough 
pavement -- this vexing problem is driving me absolutely *insane*, 
since it's right next to my ear.  Sounds like two pieces of styrofoam 
rubbing against each other.  This started not long after I had some 
bodywork (dent removed and respray/blend).  The frequency has gone 
from occasional to constant annoyance.

I've tried everything I can think of to track it down, but so far it 
has eluded me.  New door panel clips, new window regulator slides, 
felt or foam in strategic places, gummifledged door seal.  At first I 
thought it was a loose vapor barrier inside the door, but I've 
re-secured it with new butyl tape and even used the passenger side 
door as a guide.

I've pulled the door panel off more times than I care to count, and 
everything internal in the door seems to be tight.  The glass is 
properly adjusted to factory specs.  I did have to tweak the door 
closure/striker plate after the bodywork, but since I don't have the 
specs for that I just eyeballed it so the door is flush and straight.

Only thing left is perhaps a loose/worn regulator or window tracks. 
Window does function correctly, with no binding.

I'm near the end of my rope on this one.


Ron B.  You still out there?  Any thoughts?

TIA,
Herman
92 318is

PS-On a happier note, the X5 UDE was fun...it does drive like a BMW 
- -- but the high price and questionable utility may make it a less 
than rational choice for most people.  For trucky/utility duties, I'd 
feel less guilty beating up on a cheaper vehicle, i.e. a real truck. 
The vehicle dynamics portion of the curriculum should be standard for 
every driver.  E46 328 impressions -- mushy clutch, sloppy shifter, 
sport suspension a must.  If you've experienced BL/SS, it's hard to 
go back.

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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 02:25:58 -0700
From: Herman Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] CR Wax

>>The latest issue of Consumer Reports shows the results of wax testing.
>>Interesting reading.  The categories tested against/for include durability,

>And you don't want to share with us the results?  Executive summary level?

Yes, DO tell...my toaster needs a new coat of wax.

(I'll reserve my other comments until I read the article)

Herman
Friend of P

(feeling smart-assy, don't mind me)

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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 07:42:36 -0400
From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <E28> with a clunk

Perfect diagnosis, two of my E28s did the same thing and that's what it was.

Checking them is something you can do in the driveway.  The Pitman arms are also called
the "dog bones" because that's what they look like, about 5" long and one on each side.
You can see them just by looking under the car from the side when it is parked on the
ground.  If the rubber boot around each end's heim joint is shredded, they are bad.  
They
are relatively cheap and easy to replace.

- - Rob

- ----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <E28> with a clunk


> Keith wrote:
> <<When I start off or back off the throttle
> <<in reverse or first gear a clunk comes from the backseat.
>
>Turns out the Pitman arm (I think that's it.  Isn't that the thing
> that connects the rear axle to something?) was pretty much shot.  Tony (the
> mechanic) was surprised the whole rear axle hadn't fallen off the car before.
> Brad Couvillon

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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:17:50 +0200
From: "nemetha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Bilstein shocks

Got a E28 with Bilstein 'lowering kit'. Anyone tried to get hold of only one
new shock (front left)? Apparently, they are only sold in a kit of four.

Thanks,
Andreas

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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:42:36 -0400
From: "Peter Sterne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Zymol Wax

Hey Steve, where do you live?  I have three cars, you can come over and detail
them anytime 8^)

Regards,
Peter Sterne
'93 325is
'91 Miata SE
'96 Volvo 850 Wagon

Steven Reed wrote:

> It's an interesting read but I think too much emphasis was put on the "ease
> of use" category.  Maybe it's just me, but I _like_ detailing a car...
>
> Steve
>

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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 05:54:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Captain Brakefade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <E28> Re: Metric Mechanic Engines

Also try Billet Source in GA:
http://www.billetsource.com/
I considered them for headwork several years 
ago but ended up using a local machine shop 
recommended by some 'Stangbanger friends of 
mine.  At first I was hesitant to let a shop 
that builds 302 Ford drag race motors work on 
a BMW head, but after I saw the M20 valve 
compression tool they made from scratch, I had 
no fears.

Ed

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From: "Richard F. Viehdorfer" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Subject: [uuc] <E28> Metric Mechanic Engines 

I'm looking for specific information 
concerning the Big 6 engines that Metric 
Mechanic sells; specifically the upgraded 
engines that they sell in 3500, 3700, and 3900 
sizes called the HiFlo ST Sport engines. 

If anyone has any direct knowledge of these 
engines, their design, manufacturing, 
reliability, performance claims, etc., I would 
appreciate hearing from you. They appear to be 
the only company I've been able to find that 
does any modification on the Big 6 on a 
normally aspirated basis, and their prices 
appear to be reasonable. On the 3500 engine, 
they claim 260 horsepower and I believe 235 
torque with stock fuel injection and engine 
management. 

I am considering the purchase of one of these 
engines in the next 10-15,000 miles and would 
appreciate hearing from anyone who has had any 
experiences with them. As I do not want to 
clutter the Digest with anecdotal posts, 
please direct any email responses to me 
personally, off-list. 

Thanks, 

Rick Viehdorfer 
Rocky Mtn Chapter BMWCCA member 
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:56:01 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Wax

I see the wax thread coming back so while it is here I thought I would throw in
that Consumer Reports did some wax testing last month, I just got the mag
yesterday & skimmed it. You might stop buy your local book store & pick up  a
copy. Basically they liked Zymol for the shine, but not the durability. No big
suprize what they had to say about NuFinish. Keep it away from paint if you
don't like swirls & haze.

Check it out...

Lee
97' M3/4 Lovin the V1

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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:54:18 -0400
From: "Kovac, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: <E28> with a clunk

>Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2094 16:58:11 -0400
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [uuc] <E28> with a clunk

It's most likely the rear diff mount - had the same exact symptoms on my
1987 535i with ~160K miles. Total cost in parts and labor was $100 (I
think). Keep us posted.

Mike

 

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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 05:42:21 -0700
From: Brad Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] CR Wax

> >>The latest issue of Consumer Reports shows the results of wax testing.
> >>Interesting reading.  The categories tested against/for include
durability,
>
> >And you don't want to share with us the results?  Executive summary
level?
>
> Yes, DO tell...my toaster needs a new coat of wax.
>
> (I'll reserve my other comments until I read the article)

This is from memory, but I did read it last night.

Some findings:

1. Zymol came out on top.
2. No wax or polish lasts more than a couple months.
3. Nothing makes a new finish any shinier (you don't need to wax a new car).
4. Multi-step systems like Mother's can take all day and give nice results,
but they weren't convinced it was as good as Zymol.
5. Car wash formulas that wax while you wash don't leave any measurable
amount of wax on the car, but it sure is easy to apply!

Brad Houser
'99 M3C (with Zaino polish - which was not rated)

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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 04:24:18 -0400
From: Robert Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <E28> With a Click

Hey Folks,

    I've got an '84 533i with 156k mi on it.  It's recently developed a rolling click 
coming
from what sounds to be the driver's side front wheel, i'm thinking maybe a wheel 
bearing, but
i'm not much good at diagnosis?  Any thoughts?

    Also, rocker/valve noise is pretty loud between 5-6K RPMS, but i heard this is 
typical of
the big six, is that true?

Thanks,
Robb

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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:19:15 -0500
From: Luis Marques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Nail in tire

Or you can go to Discount Tire and they will fix it for free.

- -Luis Marques 
'97 328i


"John Caramagno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Take the wheel off and haul it down to any reputable tire dealer,
> Goodyear for instance. They will remove the tire and patch it from the
> inside. Total cost about $10.

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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:32:39 -0400
From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Nail in tire

why is it that Discount Tire does this service for free - do they assume that
(rightly) you will remember & use them to purchase/install tires when you need
them ??

I know they give you a nice new free Pilot Sport 245/40-17 tire when their
tire-jockey slices the stock Dunlop 8080E bead while getting it off to find the
leak ;-)  must be those pesky asymmetrical hump wheels....

just curious.


Ben Keyes - waaay to many tires in basement right now thanks to the digest....


Luis Marques wrote:

> Or you can go to Discount Tire and they will fix it for free.
>
> -Luis Marques
> '97 328i
>
> "John Caramagno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Take the wheel off and haul it down to any reputable tire dealer,
> > Goodyear for instance. They will remove the tire and patch it from the
> > inside. Total cost about $10.

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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:40:54 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Re: E36 parts falling off.

In a message dated 4/17/00 3:10:45 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< I came back from a ~300 mile trip yesterday to find a large piece of 
plastic
 hanging down from behind the front bumper cover.  After getting under the
 car, I found that: the plastic piece that covers the bottom of the radiator
 was split in half and the left half was lost, it looks like whatever plastic
 piece that piece attaches to on the left side is gone, and the left brake
 duct is gone. >>
I noticed the same thing with my M3 while going down the front straight of 
Road America at 115 or thereabouts. Very disconcerting. After a corner worker 
helped me pull the pieces out from under the car I put them in the trunk and 
later took them to my dealer. Apparently, some previous agricultural driving 
or maybe a parking bumper had pushed this plastic shroud up and broke most of 
the mounting tabs (four I believe). The last one broke on the main straight. 
I thought BMW should make better parts but I got little sympathy from the 
dealer. It was around $70 for new parts and some time under the car to R&R 
it. Good luck
Fred Callender RMC

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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:16:19 -0500
From: "Simon Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Toyo RA1 tire flip

Hello all,
        Does anyone know if you can flip the Toyo RA1 on the rim?  Meaning run the
inside edge on the outside and vice versa.  Thanks a lot.  Had a great time
at Putnam Park this weekend.

Simon
88 M3

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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:39:07 -0400
From: "Bryan Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] negative camber woes, Kumho's rubbing struts

Ken wrote:
> Well, I got around to replacing my warped rotors and discovered my left
front
> strut as well as the right side (although to a much lesser degree) has R
> compound tire marks all over the area where the spring seats in the strut
> (the bottom "cup" area). I'm certain it's due to the shims that were
> installed to get 2.5 degrees negative camber.

Ken, my guess is that if you aren't hearing any rubbing or experiencing any
weird tire wear on the insides of your front track tires, you don't have a
problem.  Instead, the black marks are simply due to hot rubber that your
tires pick up off the track.  I have the same problem.  The spring seat on
my Bilsteins is basically black instead of yellow.  If the tires aren't in
contact while the car is sitting still, then the top of the tire shouldn't
be deflecting enough to cause a rub while you are cornering hard.  I know
tons of racers who run with about 2mm of clearance at the top and have never
had a rubbing problem.  If it is rubbing under hard cornering you should
probably check your wheels bearings or make sure your wheels aren't bent.
Good luck.

- -Bryan Watts
95 M3 with black Bilsteins.

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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 06:38:11 -0700
From: Russ Coppes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: <E28> Metric Mechanic Engines

Check the back issues of Grass Roots Motorsports.  They did a whole write up on the 
M30 MM engine.  Dyno hp was a little low though.

RussC


>>
>Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:50:55 -0700
>From: "Richard F. Viehdorfer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [uuc] <E28> Metric Mechanic Engines
>
>I'm looking for specific information concerning the Big 6 
>engines that Metric
>Mechanic sells; specifically the upgraded engines that they 
>sell in 3500,
>3700, and 3900 sizes called the HiFlo ST Sport engines. 
>
>If anyone has any direct knowledge of these engines, their design,
>manufacturing, reliability, performance claims, etc., I would 
>appreciate
>hearing from you. They appear to be the only company I've been 
>able to find
>that does any modification on the Big 6 on a normally 
>aspirated basis, and
>their prices appear to be reasonable. On the 3500 engine, they 
>claim 260
>horsepower and I believe 235 torque with stock fuel injection 
>and engine management.
>
>I am considering the purchase of one of these engines in the 
>next 10-15,000
>miles and would appreciate hearing from anyone who has had any 
>experiences
>with them. As I do not want to clutter the Digest with 
>anecdotal posts, please
>direct any email responses to me personally, off-list. 
>
>Thanks,
>
>Rick Viehdorfer
>Rocky Mtn Chapter BMWCCA member

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