[uucdigest] Friday, July 13 2001 Volume 03 : Number 4015 _________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.gis.nsw.gov.au/staff/rnott/bmw/bmw.html | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] Re: Water Pumps [nJay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Used Wheels [Chris Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] <E30> my nuts (was rollbar install) [Neil Deshpande <neildeshpande@] [uuc] RE: BMW Physics ["KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] WTB: 17" wheels ["Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] Parting out E30 323i. Stock seats? ["Stan Jackson Jr." <inxces@] [uuc] just say no to HTML formatting [Adam Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] heated Recaro-style E30 sport seats [ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Re: [uuc] Re: McLaren F1 Powerplant [Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Centripetal force [Michael Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] RE: "fatherly" advice ["KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] Read it and...W.Mass lawyer needed [Ed MacVaugh <macvaugh@home.] Re: [uuc] Re: McLaren F1 Powerplant ["Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] Re: McLaren F1 Powerplant [Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] <E34> Slow oil pressure light, again! ["Merchant, Adnan" <Adnan.Mer] Re: [uuc] <E30> my nuts (was rollbar install) [James Muskopf <james_535@y] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:29:45 -0400 From: nJay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Water Pumps Sorry, Neil. Don't like to be teased like that, eh? http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/uberjeph/tech_procedures/h2o_pump/h2opump.htm nJay 93 325is Neil Maller wrote: > Well now that everone agrees on that, ya wanna share the URL or what??! > > Neil > 96 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:30:30 -0400 From: Chris Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Used Wheels Group, Does anyone have any experience with the services of www.bmwwheels.com for used wheels? I would like to upgrade the 15 inchers on my '94 325i to 16's, and am assuming that a used BMW wheel for $200 (style U_14 on this site) would be better than $160 or so for Mille Miglia's, etc. Any feedback, differing opinions, private sale offers greatly appreciated. While I'm soliciting opinions, I'm planning on Firehawk SZ50 tires due to an attractive price from Tire Rack at the moment. Feel free to offer feedback on that choice as well. If anyone has any interest in my 15's, (style U_5), let me know what you think they're worth. I may keep them for winter rubber unless someone else has a better use for them. Thanks, Chris Baker '94 325i ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 08:33:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E30> my nuts (was rollbar install) Mike: I bet Gary has an explanation for his statements that he'll come up with, but here is what I found in Carroll Smith's "Screw to Win": "Probably the most positive of the conventional locking devices is the simple jam nut (or check nut). This is nothing more than another nut tightenend down on the first. The first or holding nut is tightened to its predetermined torque and the second is tightened down on top of it. Tightening the two nuts against each other produces opposing and locked-in stresses in the bolt threads regardless of residual stress in the bolt. The jam nut serves only as a locking device. All the clamping load is carried by the holding nut." HOWEVER, note the difference between locking a nut in place and making sure it is tight (at the right torque) in place. When I used jam nuts on my bicycle for the front brake assy., I was told, by an uneducated apprentice, to actually back torque the first nut so that the two nuts were better in opposition. I was 10 so I did as I was told. My guess is that the nut would not have gone anywhere, but that the torque spec was compromised as the second nut probably pulled the thread off the first nut's threads. So, stretched them in the loose direction. Of course, I'd never met anyone (except my Dad) who had even heard of torque wrenches so this was not keeping me up at night. Neil Deshpande http://www.neilwerke.com *** Mike Whitney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't buy the "stretches the bolt" argument. Seems to me that the second nut just stops the first one from moving. Granted, it's same thing that a locking nut accomplishes, but, if anything, the second nut would stretch the threads inside the first nut in the *tight* direction. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Double nutting does no good. The second nut stretches the bolt and loosens the first nut. Use a self locking nut instead. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:53:25 -0700 From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: BMW Physics Not such thing as centrifugal force...... centrifugal acceleration yes. Yea F=Ma with the direction vectors applied correctly. - -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:49:18 -0400 From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] WTB: 17" wheels She destroyed all four wheels in one pothole? Did she put in an insurance claim? A claim to the town or state (admittedly a long shot, but worth filing)? Stan >Rob asked, > I am looking for a set of 17" wheels that would be appropriate for my > sister's e46 323ci. The originals were recently destroyed by a pothole and > need to be replaced. Her budget is $750-800. > > Please send all correspondence directly to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thanks, > > Rob > Sin City Chapter - BMW CCA > 95 M3 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:49:50 -0400 From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Parting out E30 323i. Stock seats? All 1988 model iX's came loaded, which included the Recaro-style M3 sport seats. Later, those seats were optional on the iX. I believe the sport seats were standard in all M3's and 325is's, but I am not certain. Personally, I have never seen a heated version of the Recaro-style sport seat in any BMW. The optional heated iX seats I have seen were not the sport seats. Stan > Ed MacVaugh said: > > My experience is different. > > Heated seats have been seen in both comfort seat and sport seat cars > including convertibles. Lots of 325iX models (maybe all) came with > heated seats in both coupe and sedan models. > > An E30 M3 is the only car, however, that I have seen with only seating > for two in the rear. Thus, E30 M3 seating is unique in that regard. > > This Yank didn't know that any e30 was made in 1983, but everyone else > seemed to get models ahead of the US. > > Ed > > I am looking to buy as much hardware as I can locate to install heated > front seats in the 1989 325is (aka, the money pit). That includes > console switches, wiring harness and seat heating pads. I also need to > know how the wiring is routed from the seat back to the bottom cushion . > > ben keyes wrote: > > > > > My E30 has heated M3 seats & I don't think seat heat was a non-M E30 option in > > the US. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:52:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] just say no to HTML formatting Damn, I hate getting this stuff. I get pissed at my own friends who use hotmail sending me stuff I can't reply to without having to parse out damn HTML. Grrr... Adam Wilson '81 528i > Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 01:18:34 -0400 > From: "mike S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] V1 hardwire > > <html><DIV>Just a thought here...How about mounting > the unit in the rear window on top of the third > brake light....Mike....</DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:56:43 -0400 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] heated Recaro-style E30 sport seats "Stan Jackson Jr." wrote: > Personally, I have never seen a heated version of the Recaro-style sport seat > in any BMW. The optional heated iX seats I have seen were not the sport > seats. I have them in my E30 332iS (tho I didn't know it until I was fixing the seat belt & wondered what the wires in the seat were for (no switches on the center console to give them away). Carlos has them on his '91 E30 M3 as well. other than the flaky mechanical gas cylinder-assisted adjustments (which I need to refresh on mine) I like these seats better than the ones in the M coupe. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:59:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: McLaren F1 Powerplant On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Tammer Farid wrote: > i had no > idea they had some modicum of practicality, also. and nice-looking > pre-fitted luggage it is. for a million, it'd better be! The McLaren F1 makes me drool, too. If you used its luggage, it had more storage space than a contemparaneous 5 series (E34?). One of its design goals is that you'd be able to drive one for a vacation to the south of France from England. Its door design took into consideration low garage ceilings and tight parking spaces one would find in an apartment building! - --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 08:55:32 -0700 From: Michael Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Centripetal force Neil: You beat me to the pedantic reply to Gary. Good show. Michael Andre (Someone who spends a LOT of time thinking in rotational frames of reference.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:03:12 -0700 From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: "fatherly" advice Hassan, Get a calendar, find that point 9 or so months from now. Focus on that point, count each day until it's over. That's the best you're gonna do. The day the bambino arrives will be one of the most memorable in your life. OBMWC- Teach the tyke what the Roundel looks like. My daughter knew by 2 or 3. _Kevin Kevin : ^ ) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:24:16 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Read it and...W.Mass lawyer needed Uh, Wil, Why not just reduce your recommendations to: "Go to court, lie and perjure yourself." Ed Wil Birkmaier wrote: > > I don't even think you need a lawyer. How old was this man of law, ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 14:11:58 -0400 From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: McLaren F1 Powerplant After paying for the car all you'd be able to afford is a crummy apartment with low ceilinged garage. :-) Geeeze From: "Andre Yew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > France from England. Its door design took into consideration low garage > ceilings and tight parking spaces one would find in an apartment building! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:12:20 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: McLaren F1 Powerplant Andre Yew at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Tammer Farid wrote: >> i had no >> idea they had some modicum of practicality, also. and nice-looking >> pre-fitted luggage it is. for a million, it'd better be! > > The McLaren F1 makes me drool, too. If you used its luggage, it had more > storage space than a contemparaneous 5 series (E34?). One of its design > goals is that you'd be able to drive one for a vacation to the south of > France from England. Its door design took into consideration low garage > ceilings and tight parking spaces one would find in an apartment building! > http://movies.taner.net/topgear/Top_Gear-McLaren_F1.asf Very large, and SO worth it. (the rest of the videos are a kick in the pants, too. Tiff Needel has my dream job) - - Mark '97 Carrera S '97 528i 5-spd '88 M3, track car, soon to be a JS racer - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (office) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:19:23 -0600 From: "Merchant, Adnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E34> Slow oil pressure light, again! Hi folks, A few months back I had a problem with my 535 wherein the oil pressure light would take way too long to go off after an overnight sit. I traced the problem to the check valve in the filter canister allowing complete drain-back. Naturally, since the pump had to fill said canister first, it took longer for pressure to build. This required replacement of the entire canister unit and I was glad to see that BMW had redesigned the check valve to make it much more durable. The problem went away entirely after installing the new housing. Got to the car last night at the airport and started her up only to hear the dreaded chime and see the "Engine Oil Pressure" warning come up. Car had been parked for three days. Aaarghhh! Warning went off before I could react and the engine was fine after that. Same symptoms as before! Any ideas? I will check the canister to see if the thing is draining back and inspect the o-ring on the center bolt. I find it difficult to believe that a new canister is failing. BTW, the previous time, I had the sender replaced and the pressure tested so oil pump was fine. Thanks, Adnan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:19:26 -0700 (PDT) From: James Muskopf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> my nuts (was rollbar install) Quoted text follows: > Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 02:24:31 -0400 > From: Mike Whitney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] <E30> my nuts (was rollbar install) > > Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Double nutting does no good. > > Well, I've been double-nutted all my life, and I like to think that > second one isn't just there for show. :) HAH!! I was on the phone when I read that! Almost made me hang up! > > The second nut stretches the bolt and loosens the first nut. > > Use a self locking nut instead. > > Seriously, though, I don't buy the "stretches the bolt" argument. > Seems to me that the second nut just stops the first one from > moving. Granted, it's same thing that a locking nut accomplishes, > but, if anything, the second nut would stretch the threads inside > the first nut in the *tight* direction. Actually, Gary is right. The second nut on top will stretch (elastically-it will go back) the bolt so the first nut's threads are not engaged anymore. The first nut is now basically useless. It may prevent loosening, but that's what Loctite, nylon insert locknuts, and mechanically deformed "one-way" nuts are designed for. You should use a jam nut on applications such as bolts or rod ends that thread into something but do not tighten down on anything. You use the jam nut to lock the bolt/rod end into place. Not the best solution, but it does work. > To tell you the truth, though, I don't spend a lot of time thinking > about my nuts, maybe you have more experience with that kind of > thing than I do. :) > > Got a reference, or can someone else back up Gary's points? > - -- > Mike Whitney - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > No Gum Racing - http://pws.prserv.net/whitney/nogum.html > 89 BMW 325is, more nuts and balls than I have James [EMAIL PROTECTED] 88 M3 88 M5 PS--I think about my nuts all the time. They are a very important part of my life! PPS--old middle-school joke: Q: Why are boys faster than girls? A: Because they have ball-bearings and a stick shift! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! 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