[uucdigest] Friday, July 13 2001 Volume 03 : Number 4016 _________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.gis.nsw.gov.au/staff/rnott/bmw/bmw.html | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] Centripetal force ["Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] <1993 E36> ["Merchant, Adnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] For SALE: E36 clear corner set! ["Ahmad Hamzawi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Re: [uuc] <E30> my nuts (was rollbar install) ["Gary Derian" <gderian@ame] [uuc] [OT] More Electrical Engineering Help Needed - cell phone hookup ["] [uuc] <E28>installing V1 comments ["Alex Cagann" <autoconsortium@earthlin] Re: [uuc] <1993 E36> [nJay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] RE: [uuc] FS: 1990 535ia....fatherly advice ["Mohamed Haider" <bmwaddict] [uuc] McLaren F1 powerplant [Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Re: double nutting [david kroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Re: McLaren F1 Powerplant [Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 14:18:41 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Centripetal force OW, OW, OW!! UNCLE. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Neil: > You beat me to the pedantic reply to Gary. Good show. > > Michael Andre > (Someone who spends a LOT of time thinking in rotational frames of reference.) > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:29:33 -0600 From: "Merchant, Adnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <1993 E36> Hi, A question for a friend who has a 325is with an automatic: He says that the other day he came to a stop at a light and when attempting to take off when the light changed, there was no get up and go; he feels it was in third gear and wouldn't change. After he turned the car off and restarted, all was well again. Any ideas I can pass along to him? Thanks for your help, Adnan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:30:17 -0700 From: "Ahmad Hamzawi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] For SALE: E36 clear corner set! I have a clear corner set which includes fronts and rear tail lights. This will fit an E36 (92-99) sedan. Set is in perfect condition. Will sell for first $275 or will trade for a set for the E36 coupe! Regards ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:06:55 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> my nuts (was rollbar install) OK, ok, now I must add some more info here. If the jam nut is torqued to a lesser value than the original nut, the bolt stretch does not change and the two nuts share the bolt load. Problem is if the joint relaxes and the nut gets loose, both nuts get loose. If the lock nut is torqued the same, the first nut is relieved of its load and acts as a spacer. If the lock nut is torqued more, the bolt stretch is increased by the thread clearance which may or may not be significant, depending on the bolt length, and the bolt stress between the nuts is greater than the bolt stress in the clamping region. This may or may not be a suitable solution. Back torquing the first nut after the locknut is snug reduces the bolt stretch by the thread clearance. Stretching the bolt, in the very short length between two nuts, an amount equal to the thread clearance is risky business unless all aspects are properly engineered, thread class, bolt strength, # of threads engaged, etc. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Mike: > > I bet Gary has an explanation for his statements that > he'll come up with, but here is what I found in > Carroll Smith's "Screw to Win": > > "Probably the most positive of the conventional > locking devices is the simple jam nut (or check nut). > This is nothing more than another nut tightenend down > on the first. The first or holding nut is tightened > to its predetermined torque and the second is > tightened down on top of it. Tightening the two nuts > against each other produces opposing and locked-in > stresses in the bolt threads regardless of residual > stress in the bolt. The jam nut serves only as a > locking device. All the clamping load is carried by > the holding nut." > > HOWEVER, note the difference between locking a nut in > place and making sure it is tight (at the right > torque) in place. When I used jam nuts on my bicycle > for the front brake assy., I was told, by an > uneducated apprentice, to actually back torque the > first nut so that the two nuts were better in > opposition. I was 10 so I did as I was told. My > guess is that the nut would not have gone anywhere, > but that the torque spec was compromised as the second > nut probably pulled the thread off the first nut's > threads. So, stretched them in the loose direction. > > Of course, I'd never met anyone (except my Dad) who > had even heard of torque wrenches so this was not > keeping me up at night. > > Neil Deshpande > http://www.neilwerke.com > > *** > > Mike Whitney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I don't buy the "stretches the bolt" argument. > Seems to me that the second nut just stops the first > one from moving. Granted, it's same thing that a > locking nut accomplishes, but, if anything, the second > nut would stretch the threads inside the first nut > in the *tight* direction. > > Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Double nutting does no good. The second nut stretches > the bolt and loosens the first nut. Use a self > locking nut instead. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:01:38 -0400 From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] [OT] More Electrical Engineering Help Needed - cell phone hookup Okay, since we have all of you very helpful folks with a huge array of experience and knowledge maybe I'll try my problem. My 1991 Honda Goldwing has this nice intercom system built in. When it's on anything I say into the microphone is amplified and repeated to me and my passenger and of course the same goes for my passenger. I want to figure out how to add my cell phone into this loop to act as a third person so that if I'm talking on the phone my passenger can too. Party line like. The start of the solution is that I bought a Nokia Car Kit with a base for charging and connections for all kinds of things including a microphone input, speaker output, power, radio mute and a remote antenna. I started wiring this into my intercom plug like it was another helmet but it suffered from a feedback loop and overdriving. The phone doesn't appreciate this feedback where things coming out its speaker are blasted back at its microphone. The intercom system doesn't appreciate a microphone blasting a fully amplified signal at it. What kinds of things might I accomplish here? Geeeze '88 325is race car for sale http://patdonahue.com/forsale ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 14:19:47 -0500 From: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E28>installing V1 comments Brad, I hope you didn't take my previous email (re:you did waaay too much work) in the wrong way. I was just commenting...since you did post your results on this list. I want to also comment on your recent postulations about putting it on the passenger seat headrest, etc. Now, I don't know about you, but that would bother the crap out of me. That is certainly not a suitable location if you are looking for any kind of cleanliness in your approach. If you are going to all this trouble to hide this and that and hardwire it, why would you put it in such a ridiculous spot...where it is horribly visible and troublesome? Do you not carry passengers? You want wires hanging out of your headliner to your passenger seat? You claim the passenger sunvisor location would not work for you....the passenger SEAT is better? People will be scared to sit down in your car in fear of cranial radiation...LOL. Passenger sunvisor location= no showing wires, excellent reception, clean, tidy, and semi-permanent (unless your passenger needs to use the visor). Passenger headrest= wires hanging off the ceiling, messy and untidy appearance, totally in the way. I'm sure I don't understand your train of thought here... Again, this is not meant to be 'harsh'..but rather some constructive comments based on my opinions...which, of course, EVERYONE has plenty of :-). I'm just looking out for a fellow bmwphile...and I don't want this to end with your headliner and 10lbs of wire falling over your eyes at 100mph on the freeway causing you to bump someone and messing up that M badge on your euro grill :-). Sorry...couldn't resist...that was in jest, Brad. Now, I have one other opinion...it is time for a drink. By the way, I love your photo gallery of E28 cars. There are a few gorgeous euro E28's on there.. Alex Cagann 88///M5 AUTO CONSORTIUM http://members.rennlist.com/autoconsortium ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:03:06 -0400 From: nJay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <1993 E36> Adnan, The computer may have detected a problem with the transmission and dropped into a "limp home" mode. Turning off the car sometimes resets this until the problem becomes detectable again. I have no experience with BMW automatics to apply here, but similar behavior from a '93 Chrysler was caused by worn components and led to a tranny rebuild ($$). nJay '93 325is 5-speed (no more Chryslers, no more automatics) some E36 stuff for sale (wheels, tires etc.) -- tell your friends ;-) "Merchant, Adnan" wrote: > A question for a friend who has a 325is with an automatic: > > He says that the other day he came to a stop at a light and when attempting > to take off when the light changed, there was no get up and go; he feels it > was in third gear and wouldn't change. After he turned the car off and > restarted, all was well again. > > Any ideas I can pass along to him? > > Thanks for your help, > Adnan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 16:16:44 -0400 From: "Mohamed Haider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] FS: 1990 535ia....fatherly advice Firstly, congratulations on the baby!! Secondly, when it comes to your wife expecting, I only have one piece of advice... you will find that you can predict whats' gonna happen with the BMW more than what mood your wife will be in the next minute. Cheers, Mohamed - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hassan Hassan Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 3:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] FS: 1990 535ia Greetings Bimmerheads: I am selling my `90 535i to make space for a 3 series touring. I bought the 535i less than two months ago for my wife while I drive my `91 M5. However, I am happy to announce that after four years of marriage, my wife tells me I am going to be a Daddy! So, I will try to sell it myself for a few weeks before I consider trading it in on the new car. Here are the details: 1990 BMW 535i,$11,500, 96k miles, Glacier blue/Dark blue, automatic transmission. New Bilsteins, OEM exhaust, bushings, Dunlop SP 5000's with less than 1000 miles. For photos, service history and other information, please email me directly at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: If there are any dads out there, I could use some advice on what to expect during the 9 month maternity period. None of my friends are married and I am beginning to wonder if there are any special tips I need to know about coping with the female hormonal changes. Respectfully, HB Hassan St. Louis _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:20:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] McLaren F1 powerplant Gary: Yes, you're right about the M88/3 having the simplex and the S38 having the duplex chain. Don't know about the tappets. I'll check my books to see what else I can come up with. Should make for a nice FAQ, though not so FA, I suppose! Anyway, here is a list of some engines and M numbers (M#, cylinders, configuration, cylinder center distance in mm): M10, 4, in-line, 100 M20, 6, in-line, 91 M30, 6, in-line, 100 M40, 4, in-line, 91 M50, 6, in-line, 91 M60, 8, vee, 98 M70, 12, vee, 91 Ties in with what you said and adds the V8 block and the M10. Neil Deshpande http://www.neilwerke.com *** "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The S38B35 has a duplex timing chain and larger tappets compared to the M88/3. Maybe more stuff. The 91mm bore center is common to all "small block" engines and the V-12. The "big block" engine has a 100 or 101mm bore center. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:37:33 -0700 (PDT) From: david kroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: double nutting Gary Derian wrote: > Double nutting only makes sense if you want the bolt > very loose. Then the > only bolt stretch is between the nuts. See: parking brake cable attachment at parking brake handle... ===== David Kroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 16:27:59 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: McLaren F1 Powerplant on 7/13/01 1:20 PM, Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The McLaren F1 makes me drool, too. > One of its design goals is that you'd be able to drive one for a vacation to > the south of France from England. In England it used to be said that a true sports car only needed room in the boot for a contraceptive and a toothbrush! Neil 96 M3 ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #4016 *************************** ________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Camptown Automotive - http://www.camptownauto.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Detailwerks Chicago Inc. "Chicago's Premier Automotive Appearance | Center" . http://www.detailwerkschicago.com |==================================================== | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com |==================================================== | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com |__________________________________________
