[uucdigest] Wednesday, January 8 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6006
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Re: [uuc] RE: Speaking of switches [uuc] e36 to e30 head unit transplant Re: [uuc] e36 to e30 head unit transplant [uuc] E30 Power Steering Pump rebuild Re: [uuc] Reupholstering cloth Recaros - need advice Re: [uuc] Alternator placement... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:33:07 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Nashville or bust ..CCA Members (slightly WOB ?) Hey Bill, Is this you're way of saying you'll run for the board at the next election? At least if you were a board member, you could quote facts, instead of garbage. Tell us, what exactly *is* your agenda with this attempt to incite the masses here? - ----------------------------------------------------- BMW Special Tool Rentals Pay per incident tech support - ----------------------------------------------------- Brett Anderson KMS (440) 338 1650 www.koalamotorsport.com OSS committee member - ----- Original Message ----- From: "BMWBITS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reading the BMW..space..CCA Executive Board meeting minutes for their > last meeting (Avail on the club's website ) I see that the next mtg is > scheduled for Nashville on March 8-9 . > The last one of these mtgs I attended (Seattle , Sept 2001 ) was VERY > poorly attended by 'the general membership' (AKA The Plebs ) .How'z > about we try to create a leetle more interest and attendance at this > upcoming one ?..Central location ,Nose-singing Capital of the World > ..etc etc .. > Remember ...last years BMW CCA Ofest LOST about $39,000 of members > funds ...roughly $40 per attendee ??....and the board gets to vote that > away (read the minutes folks !!..particularly the addenda ) and possibly > do it again this year in Austin and next year in ...? And give $50,000 > to the Club racing programme ....(900 registered racers , 400 active > ..do the math ..) .What about the other members ?..$39k plus $50k would > take a buck off the annual dues for ALL ,then let the Special Interests > (whether a racing or a concours or an M3, 5, 6 or 7-series 'interest > group' pay for their interest but under the aegis of the club ). > I'm NOT trying to 'raise hell' ..just awareness .....There ARE 'Other > Ways' to do things .. > See you at the meeting ? (betcha it's a posh hotel !!..guess who pays > ...except for YOUR parking !!) . > > PS YES , I have been a National VP of a different German car club .and > we bought our own tickets . > > PPS with the advent of 'virtual meeting ' technology ..Is it really > necessary to get nose-to-nose 4 times a year?. I've seen mega-million $ > contracts done on video for 10 yrs or more . > > Comments off-digest please ...or at the meeting ?? > > Bill & Shirley Proud, > Tennessee..wintertime!, Seattle..summertime . > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:53:56 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Alternator placement... Move the altenator to the rear. Why? If it doesn't acheive something, then Trans Am and GT-1 through 5 wouldn't do it today. Reasons? 1. Cooler (already mentioned) 2. Less direct draw on the crank (discussed, but no concensus reached) 3. Runs slower (also discussed, but not recognized correctly) 4. Weight distribution advantage Alternator failures, especially in the pre 90s, were common, and usually attributed to heat. The faster an alternator spins, the more power it draws from the power source. So, turning at a reduced speed will save power, hence the existence of under drive pulleys. And lets not forget the most important part. These engines ran up to, and occasionaly above, 9000 rpm. Who wants rubber belts (of that technological era) running that fast? Seems to me, it's a win win situation. You get better reliability, better weight distribution and a tiny bit of horsepower. Remembering that on the average street car of a UUC digester, 20 hp would go unnoticed. On a pure bred race car, 0.5hp can win a race. - ----------------------------------------------------- BMW Special Tool Rentals Pay per incident tech support - ----------------------------------------------------- Brett Anderson KMS (440) 338 1650 www.koalamotorsport.com OSS committee member - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Cordone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This is misleadingly stated - and suggests violation of conservation of > energy. An engine produces a given amount of power. Any accessory driven > by the engine, no matter where it is, consumes some fraction of the > available power, making less torque available at the rear wheels. > > If the same two pulleys are used to drive the alternator, and the > assembly is moved to the back, 1) the drive speed is now dependent on > road speed instead of engine speed, and 2) the drive speed is > necessarily lower because of the gearing. Point 2) could realize some > efficiency gains if the alternator has sufficient output at low speeds - > but the same thing could be realized by just leaving the alternator > crankshaft driven and making the slave pulley diameter bigger. > > Point 1) would be very bad for a stop-and-go driven road car. > > I think it's there to give us something to talk about. --SC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:47:19 -0500 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: Speaking of switches Newer ones with lights have a locating pin of black plastic on the back. Take pliers and break the pin off, they will interchange with any of the older non-lighted ones. Ed KKiely wrote: >Anyone know if the "later" lighted switches (window in particular) are a direct >replacement for the non-lit? In this case the window switches for an E23. I >haven't pulled the switch yet to compare to a lighted E32 for example. > >-Kevin > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:56:56 -0500 From: Michael Stoneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] e36 to e30 head unit transplant I've got a spare e36 Alpine unit (the one with the 17/27 pin slide connector) that I want to transplant into my 89iX that now has the magic finger head unit. Is there an adapter plug/socket that makes this fairly easy?? One of the BMW techs I've spoken with alludes to a TIS bulletin of many years ago that describes how to do this and what parts are required, but he can't put his hands on it. Anyone out there (Brett?) who might recall this bulletin or know of another way other than a full blown splicing/soldering/connecting/etc. process?? I know of an aftermarket connector that connects to the e36's wiring harness to allow the connection the wiring harness of aftermarket units, but nothing that will plug into the back of the e36 head unit with pigtails to convert the head unit to other vehicles. There must be a kluge out there that works. BTW there is no need for CD changer controlling functions as the e30 will never have this feature! Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 22:14:57 -0500 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] e36 to e30 head unit transplant There is an adapter. I will post the numbers tomorrow, there is a number for when you have the fader switch in the dash and a different number for the most 1/89 and later E30 (and E32 and E34) cars that never had the fader switch. They are expensive like in the $50-$60 range. I have one in each of the E28 M5, and two E30s to put the Z3 CD unit in them. The old ETK had the numbers and pictures in it, the newer one doesn't. You will also need the "VW" antenna adapter that converts the standard Motorola antenna cord in the car to the rosette style on the E36 radio. I have a couple of these laying around and they run $11 at Circuit City, $16 at the dealer. Ed Michael Stoneman wrote: >I've got a spare e36 Alpine unit (the one with the 17/27 pin slide >connector) that I want to transplant into my 89iX that now has the magic >finger head unit. Is there an adapter plug/socket that makes this fairly >easy?? One of the BMW techs I've spoken with alludes to a TIS bulletin of >many years ago that describes how to do this and what parts are required, >but he can't put his hands on it. Anyone out there (Brett?) who might >recall this bulletin or know of another way other than a full blown >splicing/soldering/connecting/etc. process?? I know of an aftermarket >connector that connects to the e36's wiring harness to allow the connection >the wiring harness of aftermarket units, but nothing that will plug into the >back of the e36 head unit with pigtails to convert the head unit to other >vehicles. There must be a kluge out there that works. BTW there is no need >for CD changer controlling functions as the e30 will never have this >feature! > >Thanks! > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 22:15:52 -0500 From: optonline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E30 Power Steering Pump rebuild Its an 84 325e which has been diagnosed with s leaking seal on the power steering pump. Its not dropping prodigious amounts of fluid so this would seem reasonable. Found a rebuild kit for $24. Contains two bow tie looking pieces: one a rubber gasket, the other a metal insert. two small metal retaining rings, a large o-ring and a hard rubber donut-like seal (looks like it may be the culprit.) Is this a complicated procedure and is there anything else I would need to complete the job? Thanks!! Separately, will and 84 eta need a different Conforti chip than any other eta year? Thanks again! Love my eta.... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 19:42:42 -0800 From: "Daniel Latta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Reupholstering cloth Recaros - need advice Stan- What color/material do they have now? Thanks- Dan >From: "Flying Brick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [uuc] Reupholstering cloth Recaros - need advice >Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 00:12:36 +0000 > >Hello all: > >(1) I have a pair of cloth Recaro seats in need of upholstery work. Does >anybody know a professional shop that can do the job in the Los Angeles >area? (Near Griffith Park would be ideal, but I'd like to hear of all good >shops and experiences). The seats are loose - I can drop them off. > >(2) Does anybody know a source for original Recaro fabric? Solid black >cloth is what I'm after, though I would consider a tasteful pattern. >Didn't someone recently post the name of a website with a large selection >of auto upholstery fabrics? (something like "Worldwide Fabrics"?) > >Thanks! >Stan >'82 323i >'85 535i > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 20:50:25 -0800 From: marco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Alternator placement... Put in that logical explanation I can buy the benefits of a rear placed alternator. All those reasons make sense much better than the original "it was done for hp reasons" (paraphrased). Ensuring that the alternator doesn't fail during the race is in my opinion the prime benefit. You can have 9000hp more than your competitor but if you're a DNF it doesn't matter ;-) Marco KMS - Brett Anderson wrote: > Move the altenator to the rear. > > Why? > > If it doesn't acheive something, then Trans Am and GT-1 through 5 wouldn't do > it today. > > Reasons? > > 1. Cooler (already mentioned) > 2. Less direct draw on the crank (discussed, but no concensus reached) > 3. Runs slower (also discussed, but not recognized correctly) > 4. Weight distribution advantage > > Alternator failures, especially in the pre 90s, were common, and usually > attributed to heat. > > The faster an alternator spins, the more power it draws from the power source. > So, turning at a reduced speed will save power, hence the existence of under > drive pulleys. > > And lets not forget the most important part. These engines ran up to, and > occasionaly above, 9000 rpm. Who wants rubber belts (of that technological > era) running that fast? > > Seems to me, it's a win win situation. You get better reliability, better > weight distribution and a tiny bit of horsepower. > > Remembering that on the average street car of a UUC digester, 20 hp would go > unnoticed. On a pure bred race car, 0.5hp can win a race. > > ----------------------------------------------------- > BMW Special Tool Rentals > Pay per incident tech support > ----------------------------------------------------- > Brett Anderson > KMS > (440) 338 1650 > www.koalamotorsport.com > > OSS committee member > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sean Cordone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>This is misleadingly stated - and suggests violation of conservation of >>energy. An engine produces a given amount of power. Any accessory driven >>by the engine, no matter where it is, consumes some fraction of the >>available power, making less torque available at the rear wheels. >> >>If the same two pulleys are used to drive the alternator, and the >>assembly is moved to the back, 1) the drive speed is now dependent on >>road speed instead of engine speed, and 2) the drive speed is >>necessarily lower because of the gearing. Point 2) could realize some >>efficiency gains if the alternator has sufficient output at low speeds - >>but the same thing could be realized by just leaving the alternator >>crankshaft driven and making the slave pulley diameter bigger. >> >>Point 1) would be very bad for a stop-and-go driven road car. >> >>I think it's there to give us something to talk about. --SC > > > > > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6006 *************************** ________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | Camptown Automotive - http://www.camptownauto.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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