[uucdigest]         Sunday, January 19 2003         Volume 03 : Number 6036



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] Re: E30 convertible weight ballest
       [uuc] re: <E36> Disc Error
       [uuc] [E36/7] Harman Kardon stereo upgrade
       [uuc] BMW conver. and reps
       RE: [uuc] BMW conver. and reps
       Re: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #6034
       [uuc] Re:<E36> "Disc Error" / CD Changer repair?
       Re: [uuc] E30 convertible weight ballest
       Re: [uuc] Re: E30 convertible weight ballest
       Re: [uuc] BMW conver. and reps
       Re: [uuc] BMW conver. and reps
       RE: [uuc] E34 525i ellipsoid replacement
       [uuc] old zymol...
       [uuc] <OT> Re:  Windows CE crashes on 745i
       Re: [uuc] BMW conver. and reps

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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:05:06 -0800 (PST)
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: E30 convertible weight ballest

On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Neil Deshpande wrote:

> The addition of mass is a standard vibrations trick
> for a limp chassis.  I have spec'd as much as 70 lb (a
> free hitch in one case!) on some truck chassis for the
> same reason.  In the hitch case, an 8 Hz chassis
> bending (porpoising) mode.

 Interesting.  In the interest of "gotta see it for myself", I took
mine out today.  It appears to be solid cast iron, not lead.  I popped
it on the bathroom scale, and it weighs in at precisely 50 pounds.
 Haven't driven the car yet though.  Waiting for some paint to dry on
my battery tray where it was beginning to corrode.  Which reminded me,
why not get a rear battery mount and put my battery back there like it
is on the others?  Seems like it would save me the 50 lbs of dead
weight, minus the 10 pounds of battery cables or so.

 Also, in the interest of weight savings, is there a donut spare tire
for the e30?  Honestly, with the traveling I do in that thing, a donut
spare would not be a handicap.  (also, it's been over 10 years since I
had a flat, and I'm feeling lucky)

- --
 "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
   -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 09:48:28 -0500
From: "Ted Staib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] re: <E36> Disc Error

Rob:

Same thing happened to my Alpine changer in my '91 M5. It stopped right in 
the middle of a song. I tried a CD laser lens cleaner kit, and it was dirty, 
but it did not help. A friend and I will eventually open mine up to see if 
we can fix/clean it. But I just decided to get a new 12-disc changer. I was 
directed to Gus Mancy in Ohio ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). He knows all about the 
compatibility of BMW changers and he gave me a good deal on the 12-disc 
Pioneer.

I wanted to keep the stock head unit, plus I didn't want to drop a grand on 
a new system.

Good luck.

Ted Staib

>The factory Alpine CD changer in my '93 325is stopped working the other
>day. It has always performed flawlessly, but when I went to switch >from 
>one CD to another it stopped playing and displayed "Disc Error" >on the 
>screen. ..... Any advice?



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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 09:57:34 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] [E36/7] Harman Kardon stereo upgrade

This winter I'll be installing the OEM rollhoops to my '97 Z3. At the same 
time I'll also install  OEM Harman-Kardon stereo speakers (I've already 
picked up a set), possibly including installing the subwoofer (which I've not 
yet bought). 

Before I order all the pieces from my friendly dealer, I'd like to understand 
exactly which parts I'll need to buy to make provision for the sub.  I know 
some of the trim parts are different to install the roll hoops (I've read the 
roll hoop installation article on MZ3.net), but I'd like to know  what other 
parts not covered in the article, apart from the subwoofer itself, will I 
need to buy to complete this installation? 

Anybody with ETK-TIS that can check this out, please, and offer some 
assistance?

Oh, and is there anybody with a complete H-K sub they're looking to unload?

TIA, 

Martin Bullen
'95 M3
'97 Z3 2.8

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 06:59:46 -0800
From: "Tim Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] BMW conver. and reps

The weight ballest in the conv. is one way the engineers use to help dampen
the vibrations cause by the natural body vibration when you chop the top
off. Even coupes and sedans have its own natural vibration freq. Back in
1986, the Benz 300e WAS the stiffest chassis made. My mom had 1 special
ordered in september of 1986. We took delivery of it in novemeber 1986.
Driving it thru the upstate NY winters using PIrelli Winter 190 snow tires
on all 4 winter wheels. You can still feel chassis flex when you hit a
pothole. This is with a "stiff" chassis of that era. The e30 convertible
was first sold in Europe in 1986 andin US in 1987.This body design probably
was designed in 1984. BMW had limited in house designed and built
convetibles. The 2002 and 323 convtribles were made by Baur. They didn't
have the large volume build mauufacturing of the e30 ic. So using the
weight ballest was a easy way for them to make the car fell more solid. 
Neil: I meet a lot of BMW reps and people of BMW knowledge (you included)
in my role as the BMW CCA Peachtre chapter member @ large. I go to visit
local shops and dealers to keep them in contact with the club. I get their
feedback and he if they are satified of their role in asisting the club in
functions. We have to keep our sponsors happy also. I find out lots of
information that way. New products coming out or special discounts from a
local shop for CCA members. I then pass this info to the club web master
and Newsletter editor to include in the news. In our chapter web site and
our newsletter, there is an area just for dealer/shop discounts in the area.
p.s.= you missed out on a good Club event last night, lots of good music
and great food for free. A few of the UUC Atlanta members were in
attendence also. We had over 225 members attend.


Tim Ng
95 E36 M3 BzznM3
92 E30 325ic M-tech convetible 
91 E30 M3 street car
88 E30 M3 Track car
93 Chevy Blazer 2 dr. tow vehicle

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 07:54:15 -0800
From: Brad Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] BMW conver. and reps

Isn't the weight under the battery also there to make sure the vehicle
has the 50/50 weight distribution, which also affects stability and
handling?

Brad Houser                     

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:55:26 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #6034

Toluene is great fuel.  Water injection is a great anti-detonant but it
needs to be reasonably well distributed to all cylinders.  Do you have a
nozzle in each runner?

Gary Derian


> Thank you Gary, for the advice.  I think I will increase the H20 nozzle
> size on the pair of nozzles and see what effect that has on the
> water/alcohol injection in an attempt to "raise" the octane of pumpgas
> without the benefits of Toluene.
>
> Jason

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 09:05:32 -0700
From: "Rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re:<E36> "Disc Error" / CD Changer repair?

Bora wrote: Put an empty cartridge in, reconnect power and turn on the
ignition, see if
it spits a CD out

 Maybe I wasn't clear. The CD cartridge will pop in and out at will. It just
won't play CDs.

Rob

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:05:02 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 convertible weight ballest

The 1967-69 Camaro convertible has 4 masses, 25 lb each, one in each corner
of the car.  The early Porsche 911 batteries were mounted in the extreme
front corners of the car.  I thought that was for weight distribution, not
damping as the 911 chassis was very stiff for its day.
Gary Derian

Neil wrote:

> The addition of mass is a standard vibrations trick
> for a limp chassis.

 I once
> heard someone mention that the old 911 needed two
> batteries (weak batteries then and high compression
> engine or something) and they stuck these in the rear
> wing extrema to provide a similar damping action.

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:01:17 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: E30 convertible weight ballest

That damping weight bounces around constantly, which would harm a battery.
Gary Derian

> my battery tray where it was beginning to corrode.  Which reminded me,
> why not get a rear battery mount and put my battery back there like it
> is on the others?  Seems like it would save me the 50 lbs of dead
> weight, minus the 10 pounds of battery cables or so.

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:16:48 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] BMW conver. and reps

There is no magic about 50/50 weight distribution.  Generally, more weight
to the rear, up to about 40/60 is good for rear wheel drive race cars, but
for road cars it is far less important and too much rear weight makes
achieving a smooth ride difficult and makes it difficult to tune the
handling for clueless drivers.  Many excellent RWD cars have 55% on the
front.  BMW does a great job of keeping their car close to 50/50 which is a
good thing but as I mentioned, not magic.

Gary Derian

> Isn't the weight under the battery also there to make sure the vehicle
> has the 50/50 weight distribution, which also affects stability and
> handling?
>
> Brad Houser
>
>

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 09:52:42 -0800
From: "Bora Akyol (BMW)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] BMW conver. and reps

Didn't Nissan say something like 52%/48% works for the new Z, something
about weight shifting rearward under acceleration and then achieving 50/50.

I thought that was pretty funny as the car is not constantly accelerating.

What I found more important (at least for me) is the corner balancing and
the rotational stability of the car. This is one reason why Porsche went to
a transaxle design in their front engined cars.


On 1/19/03 9:16 AM, "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There is no magic about 50/50 weight distribution.  Generally, more weight
> to the rear, up to about 40/60 is good for rear wheel drive race cars, but
> for road cars it is far less important and too much rear weight makes
> achieving a smooth ride difficult and makes it difficult to tune the
> handling for clueless drivers.  Many excellent RWD cars have 55% on the
> front.  BMW does a great job of keeping their car close to 50/50 which is a
> good thing but as I mentioned, not magic.
> 
> Gary Derian
> 
>> Isn't the weight under the battery also there to make sure the vehicle
>> has the 50/50 weight distribution, which also affects stability and
>> handling?
>> 
>> Brad Houser
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:06:28 -0500
From: Chris Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] E34 525i ellipsoid replacement

Small point (in case anyone cares) - this company as of a few years ago
is known as just Denso.  Dropped the Nippon for some reason.  U.S.
headquarters is in Southfield, Michigan, I believe.

Chris B.

Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 09:41:37 -0500
From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] E34 525i ellipsoid replacement

There still is a Nippon Denso.  Very big in car electrical and
electronic
components.

David

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 16:36:10 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] old zymol...

Fellow digested,
I have some Zymol stuff that's been on the shelf for awhile and wondered
if there's any reason not to use it.  Of particular note are the wax and
detail, which have shrunken and now look like 'pucks' smaller than their
containers.  Are they okay to use as-is, or can they be re-hydrated, or
should I just pitch 'em?
TIA.
Jay

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:55:37 -0800
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <OT> Re:  Windows CE crashes on 745i

We just bought ourselves a G.E. Advantium speed-cook oven.  It can cook
meals that actually taste and look good in about 1/3 of the normal time.  It
uses a combination of conventional cooking elements (for browning),
microwaves (used in short bursts) and Easy Bake Oven technology on a larger
scale - a couple of halogen lamps that give off a LOT of heat, as you can
imagine.

All of this is computer controlled.  You pick from a menu, using a knob that
works suspiciously like an I-Drive knob, what you want to cook, the size or
weight of the food, etc., and the computer uses the right amount of
conventional/microwave/halogen cooking to make the perfect meal.  We've seen
it demonstrated and it is amazing, to say the least.

Anyway, I pray that the operating system is not Windows CE.  Otherwise, we
may have to resort to cooking on the 325i's exhaust manifold (OBMWC).

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 08:31:28 -0800
>From: "John Coffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [uuc] Windows CE crashes on 745i
>
>http://www.baselinemag.com/article2/0,3959,833424,00.asp?kc=BAZD103019TX1K0
1
>00547
>
>How do you reboot while driving?  Interesting stories on how Windows CE in
>the 745i has a few gitches.

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:48:06 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] BMW conver. and reps

Haha.  Nissan marketing or their ad agency certainly wrote that line.
Gary Derian



> Didn't Nissan say something like 52%/48% works for the new Z, something
> about weight shifting rearward under acceleration and then achieving
50/50.
>
> I thought that was pretty funny as the car is not constantly accelerating.

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