[uucdigest]        Saturday, January 25 2003        Volume 03 : Number 6054



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       [uuc] RE: Best Tool
       RE: [uuc] -now Accusump???
       Re: [uuc] -now Accusump???
       [uuc] RE: Best Tool
       RE: [uuc] -now Accusump???
       Re: [uuc] "Flirting with Diaster" or "How I like my Pelican Parts Jack 
Pad"--now Accusump???
       RE: [uuc] "Flirting with Diaster" or "How I like my Pelican Parts Jack 
Pad"--now Accusump???
       Re: [uuc] RE: Best Tool
       [uuc] Re: Best Tool

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:09:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: Best Tool

Kevin:

Though I never got to use it, the best strut
compressor I saw was at Mike Lawrence's house.  It was
a screw much like the E30 jack, but with two plates
that locked into the strut on either end.  You pushed
this onto the spring and cranked the handle, driving
the two plates together and compressing the spring. 
AFAIK, it was a Tokico, but I could not find it on the
Internet.

Neil Deshpande

***

Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:23:28 -0800
From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: Best Tool

A while back I had asked about the "universal strut
removal" tool ..... 
let me
tell you it's not universal. I is sized for the 27mm
nut on the top of 
the strut
on an E23 nor does it have the correct center tool to
hold the shaft. 
POS.

Has anyone ever used the lever type of ball joint
removal tool? If so 
where can
a good brand be found. By good I mean robust and
useful on tie rod and
potentially control arms or thrust arms.
 I broke the type that is a "half cylinder" with the
inline screw.

- - -Kevin

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:16:15 -0500
From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] -now Accusump???

Tell me about it...I did get GM to give me 6 years/100,000 on it for
nothing...got 45,000 left.  They have issues with these motors and they have
not decided what to do in the long run.

Do Accusumps ever cause problems with too much oil in the sump?

David

- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gary Derian
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] -now Accusump???


It won't help piston slap.

Gary Derian


> You should not have said that...Accusump...what is the word on these
wonders
> of lubrication???  I am thinking of adding one to my truck for it's
prelube
> effects.  I have a new to me used GMC with the 6.0 liter motor and some
> serious piston slap on cold starts.  I am thinking of going Amsoil and
> Accusump.
>
> Any input???
>
> David

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:32:28 -0800
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] -now Accusump???

David at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Do Accusumps ever cause problems with too much oil in the sump?
> 

No, as soon as the oil pressure rises above zero the Accusump starts to
fill.  Filling is not instantaneous, but as long as you don't start your
motor and immediately rev it to redline, you should be safe from oil
foaming, etc.

Also, if you opt for the electric valve version, the Accusump maintains idle
pressure when you shut the car off.  So there's less oil in the sump at
start-up.

- - Mark, put an Accusump in his old E30 M3
- --
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:39:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: Best Tool

Kevin/Gary:

I have an E30 tie-rod end that I had to run a nut up
and down on with an impact wrench to 'fix' the
threads.  Now I have a tie-rod end puller, but even
then it does not always work out.  The M5 has $5
replacable ends unlike the E30, which has parts that
are 3x more epensive.  Not a big deal either way
though.

Neil Deshpande

***

Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:55:53 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: Best Tool

They do get that way sometimes :-(.
Gary Derian

> Gary,
> did all that and more (recent Brett advice was
helpful) but I guess 
after
17
> years that tie rod end was being difficult.
> It didn't budge.
>
> -Kevin
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:47:58 -0500
From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] -now Accusump???

Would it be possible that the extra oil in at start up would be splashed
around more by the crank and might allow more oil to the bores for that
first few seconds, especially on a v-8?  What I am thinking is that it might
help lube up those skirts and cut wear with my clacking problem.  It is
pretty bad until those pistons get warm.

David

- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Dadgar
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:32 PM
To: BMW List
Subject: Re: [uuc] -now Accusump???


David at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Do Accusumps ever cause problems with too much oil in the sump?
>

No, as soon as the oil pressure rises above zero the Accusump starts to
fill.  Filling is not instantaneous, but as long as you don't start your
motor and immediately rev it to redline, you should be safe from oil
foaming, etc.

Also, if you opt for the electric valve version, the Accusump maintains idle
pressure when you shut the car off.  So there's less oil in the sump at
start-up.

- - Mark, put an Accusump in his old E30 M3
- --
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:28:31 -0800
From: marco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] "Flirting with Diaster" or "How I like my Pelican Parts Jack 
Pad"--now Accusump???

Should be pretty easy to do on a GMC product.  Canton Racing makes all 
sorts of spin on adapters for 'merican iron.  I seem to be blazing new 
paths on an E36 wrt an accusump.  At least know one fesses up to having 
done one.

www.accusump.com

I'm doing it to prevent oil pressure drops while I'm racing.  Depending 
on the corner and the way it's taken I can get the low oil light to 
flicker on (not good).  The RIGHT solution would be to put in a dry sump 
system but 1) they are big $$ and 2) I don't believe legal in my class. 
  So far I'm piecing everything together and hope to have it installed 
by next weekend.

I couldn't even fathom how an accusump could cure piston slap.

WRT to the GM piston slap issue -- I hear they all do it.

Marco
2002 Chebby Avalanche with 5.3L Vortec

David wrote:
> You should not have said that...Accusump...what is the word on these wonders
> of lubrication???  I am thinking of adding one to my truck for it's prelube
> effects.  I have a new to me used GMC with the 6.0 liter motor and some
> serious piston slap on cold starts.  I am thinking of going Amsoil and
> Accusump.
> 
> Any input???
> 
> David
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of marco
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [uuc] "Flirting with Diaster" or "How I like my Pelican Parts
> Jack Pad"
> 
> 
> Today Mr. Mailman delivered the pelican parts jack pad.  So of course I
> tried it immediately on my racecar.  With my $200 HF aluminum jack.  But
> since I'm a cautious type of guy and being warned about $200 jacks and
> $30 jack pads  I donned my racing helmet, nomex, life preserver and oven
> mitts before risking life and limb.  I also got one of those "I've
> fallen and can't get up" RF transmitters just In case the whole cheap
> contraption created some vortex and sucked me under the car and
> immediately dropped the car on my leg.
> 
> Now I know everyone is holding their breath but you smarter ones will
> realize that since I'm emailing this report I'm still alive.  Others
> probably wish I were trapped under the car.  ;-)
> 
> Seriously, the fit and finish on the jack pad was better than I expected
> but definitely not as nice as the UG version, which should last until
> the sun goes supernova.  Functionality wise it's equal.  The welds look
> as good as the welds on my rollcage and as good as the ones I've seen on
> US Navy ships (but those were made by the lowest bidder) so I'm pretty
> confident this thing won't kill me.
> 
> So if you got to have the very best buy the UG jack pad and the $600
> aluminum jacks.  You'll sleep better.  But if you're a cheap bastard
> like myself and you like to throw caution to the wind go for it.  With
> the money I saved on the combination I bought an Accusump.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Marco
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:45:03 -0500
From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] "Flirting with Diaster" or "How I like my Pelican Parts Jack 
Pad"--now Accusump???

Well for you guys with GM piston slap issues...make more noise than your
engines.  I did and my dealer helped me get a free 100,000 mile/6 year
warranty on the engine from GM.  Keep pushing and they usually give in for
at least that much.

David

- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of marco
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 12:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] "Flirting with Diaster" or "How I like my Pelican
Parts Jack Pad"--now Accusump???


Should be pretty easy to do on a GMC product.  Canton Racing makes all
sorts of spin on adapters for 'merican iron.  I seem to be blazing new
paths on an E36 wrt an accusump.  At least know one fesses up to having
done one.

www.accusump.com

I'm doing it to prevent oil pressure drops while I'm racing.  Depending
on the corner and the way it's taken I can get the low oil light to
flicker on (not good).  The RIGHT solution would be to put in a dry sump
system but 1) they are big $$ and 2) I don't believe legal in my class.
  So far I'm piecing everything together and hope to have it installed
by next weekend.

I couldn't even fathom how an accusump could cure piston slap.

WRT to the GM piston slap issue -- I hear they all do it.

Marco
2002 Chebby Avalanche with 5.3L Vortec

David wrote:
> You should not have said that...Accusump...what is the word on these
wonders
> of lubrication???  I am thinking of adding one to my truck for it's
prelube
> effects.  I have a new to me used GMC with the 6.0 liter motor and some
> serious piston slap on cold starts.  I am thinking of going Amsoil and
> Accusump.
>
> Any input???
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of marco
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [uuc] "Flirting with Diaster" or "How I like my Pelican Parts
> Jack Pad"
>
>
> Today Mr. Mailman delivered the pelican parts jack pad.  So of course I
> tried it immediately on my racecar.  With my $200 HF aluminum jack.  But
> since I'm a cautious type of guy and being warned about $200 jacks and
> $30 jack pads  I donned my racing helmet, nomex, life preserver and oven
> mitts before risking life and limb.  I also got one of those "I've
> fallen and can't get up" RF transmitters just In case the whole cheap
> contraption created some vortex and sucked me under the car and
> immediately dropped the car on my leg.
>
> Now I know everyone is holding their breath but you smarter ones will
> realize that since I'm emailing this report I'm still alive.  Others
> probably wish I were trapped under the car.  ;-)
>
> Seriously, the fit and finish on the jack pad was better than I expected
> but definitely not as nice as the UG version, which should last until
> the sun goes supernova.  Functionality wise it's equal.  The welds look
> as good as the welds on my rollcage and as good as the ones I've seen on
> US Navy ships (but those were made by the lowest bidder) so I'm pretty
> confident this thing won't kill me.
>
> So if you got to have the very best buy the UG jack pad and the $600
> aluminum jacks.  You'll sleep better.  But if you're a cheap bastard
> like myself and you like to throw caution to the wind go for it.  With
> the money I saved on the combination I bought an Accusump.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marco
>
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:39:19 -0500
From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: Best Tool

Sounds like you're describing the original factory strut compressor for BMWs.
A marvelous tool that works really well with anything pre-E36.

Once you get to the larger diameter springs that the E36 started using from
about 1996, it's useless, plus all E39/E39, etc.


- -----------------------------------------------------
BMW Special Tool Rentals
Pay per incident tech support
- -----------------------------------------------------
Brett Anderson
KMS
(440) 338 1650
www.koalamotorsport.com

OSS committee member

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Deshpande" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Though I never got to use it, the best strut
> compressor I saw was at Mike Lawrence's house.  It was
> a screw much like the E30 jack, but with two plates
> that locked into the strut on either end.  You pushed
> this onto the spring and cranked the handle, driving
> the two plates together and compressing the spring.
> AFAIK, it was a Tokico, but I could not find it on the
> Internet.

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 08:58:18 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Best Tool

on 1/24/03 6:51 PM, "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Another way is to place a separating force on the joint with a crowbar, then
> hit the part with the tapered hole using a large hammer (2 lb or so).  This
> distorts the hole and the joint pops apart.

Or if you're going to reassemble the same parts and don't want to destroy
the ball joint or its boot, apply pressure to the end of the threaded shank
with a 2-legged puller while hammering the receiving part at right angles to
the hole axis.

Neil
96 M3

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