[uucdigest]        Thursday, January 30 2003        Volume 03 : Number 6073



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] Horrible Vendor Alert
       Re: [uuc] Horrible Vendor Alert
       Re: [uuc] Canadian E34 M5 kind of for sale maybe
       RE: [uuc] Actual RPM value.
       [uuc] Re: <E36> ASC throttle plate
       [uuc] Peake tool manual?
       Re: [uuc] Torque for wheel bolts
       RE: [uuc] Feedback on Bimmerworld custom cages
       RE: [uuc] Feedback on Bimmerworld custom cages
       RE: [uuc] Feedback on Bimmerworld custom cages

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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:45:40 -0800
From: Jason Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Horrible Vendor Alert

Please do not patronize importcarparts.com.  You may regret it.

I ordered a Bosch Fuel pressure regulator from Importcarparts.com.  I 
ordered by Bosch part number.  When I received the part, I discovered that 
they had shipped me a DIFFERENT Bosch part.  Import car parts told me that 
the part they shipped me superceded the part number that I ordered.  I 
consulted the Bosch book and this was simply not true.  Then I called Bosch 
HQ in the States and talked to their tech advisors....and BOSCH themselves 
told me that the two part numbers are NOT equivalent.....  I called BOSCH 
HQ again the next day ... and they told me the  same thing .... that the 
parts do not match.

When I called import car parts again they basically said, "Too bad, this is 
what we have on file as a replacement."  I said "well you should have asked 
me if I want a different part before shipping it to me."

The guy then claimed that "Well that's what we have on file....that's your 
part"

Then I told him even BOSCH said it was different.

Then when I told them I wanted to return the part they told me I would have 
to pay a restocking fee.  When I told them I didn't think I should be 
subject to the restocking fee, they yelled at me over the phone, calling me 
an "IGNORANT F**K  ... Its your mistake you PIECE OF SH**"".

Then I hung up.

I'm sorry but this place just plain stinks.  Never again.  I filed a 
complaint with the Better Business Bureau.

Jason

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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:58:26 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] Horrible Vendor Alert

Jason,
Call your credit card company and dispute the charge.
2:1 you will get your money back, including shipping, since they had 
supplied the wrong item.

alex f






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Please do not patronize importcarparts.com.  You may regret it.

I ordered a Bosch Fuel pressure regulator from Importcarparts.com.  I 
ordered by Bosch part number.  When I received the part, I discovered that 

they had shipped me a DIFFERENT Bosch part.  Import car parts told me that 

the part they shipped me superceded the part number that I ordered.  I 
consulted the Bosch book and this was simply not true.  Then I called 
Bosch 
HQ in the States and talked to their tech advisors....and BOSCH themselves 

told me that the two part numbers are NOT equivalent.....  I called BOSCH 
HQ again the next day ... and they told me the  same thing .... that the 
parts do not match.

When I called import car parts again they basically said, "Too bad, this 
is 
what we have on file as a replacement."  I said "well you should have 
asked 
me if I want a different part before shipping it to me."

The guy then claimed that "Well that's what we have on file....that's your 

part"

Then I told him even BOSCH said it was different.

Then when I told them I wanted to return the part they told me I would 
have 
to pay a restocking fee.  When I told them I didn't think I should be 
subject to the restocking fee, they yelled at me over the phone, calling 
me 
an "IGNORANT F**K  ... Its your mistake you PIECE OF SH**"".

Then I hung up.

I'm sorry but this place just plain stinks.  Never again.  I filed a 
complaint with the Better Business Bureau.

Jason

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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:05:56 -0500
From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Canadian E34 M5 kind of for sale maybe

KMS - Brett Anderson wrote:

> That I don't know.
>
> Technically, it's just a 540i/6, which was available here in 95.  There's no
> mechnical difference, although if it has floating rotors, that might raise a
> flag.

based on the people from customs not even coming out of their little building
when I imported the E30 w/the euro 3.0l motor in it (clearly not something which
was ever for sale in the US) I don't think that they'd be skilled enough to know
whether floating rotors were OE on a given car.

isn't the supposed reason that BMW doesn't import the floating rotors one of
concern for long-term durability & subsequent stupid-American liability rather
than being related to the parts not passing US safety standards ?

if there was any concern from BMW with importing the M540i w/the floating
rotors, it would likely not get the "this car meets all US regulations in effect
at the time of it's original sale" letter from BMW Canada when you requested it,
so you'd know up front whether it was a problem.

I'd also assume that Will Zaraska has previous experience with M540i's as well.


Ben

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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:33:44 -0800
From: "Brant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Actual RPM value.

Jamie -

A good DMM will provide RPM information for your car.  For example, a
Fluke 88 will indicate RPM directly when an appropriate signal is
provided.  A Fluke 87 will provide frequency of the signal, which can be
converted to RPM.  If I were making the measurement with my Fluke 87,
I'd measure the frequency of a fuel injector and convert that to RPM.

Brant

<<<<<From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Actual RPM value.
Is there a way to determine the actual RPM value of an idling OBDI (E36
M3) engine? . . . . .Jamie Howton>>>>>>

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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:43:45 -0500
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: <E36> ASC throttle plate

> Disabling the secondary throttle will cause the system to shut down.
>  It will also give you a fault indicator light in the dash.

Just to clarify, it will light the ASC light (as if you turned it off) but
not the check engine or check control lights on the dash.   You can disable
the system and keep your ABS intact by just removing the actuator cable
from the ASC TB.  (do this at your own risk, if you crash because of this,
it ain't my fault!)  You can even remove the ASC throttle body, as long as
you leave the actuator in place.  (removing the actuator seems to trip the
ABS light.) 

                -kit


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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:48:34 -0500
From: "Michael Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Peake tool manual?

Hello,

Does anyone have a photocopy or .pdf copy of the Peak Research fault code
manual?  I own the tool but can't find the manual and it's not much good
without that.  I have an E36 M3 so just those pages might suffice, but I'd
rather have the whole manual if you've got it.

TIA,

Mike

97 M3 I-stock #121

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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:05:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Torque for wheel bolts

You mean like witches and wood?

Brad "M.P." Couvillon



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> throwing stuff in lakes to see
> if they float)?

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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:00:51 -0500
From: "James Clay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Feedback on Bimmerworld custom cages

No offense Neil, just an explanation.  Our cages reflect the newest ideas in
cage and chassis design.  We are constantly analyzing DTC, WRC, TA, and even
NASCAR models and employing the best ideas from them (while still remaining
legal - DTC cars no longer have a traditional roll hoop and it makes a great
structural design, but not legal in the US).  We have come up with a couple
of what I think are original ideas, but I suspect that if you dug, you could
find them elsewhere - once a good idea pops up in one car, it usually is
incorporated fairly quickly on new builds in other cars.  Let me know if I
can help with your cage.  I have a good friend in NH that does excellent
work.


James Clay
http://www.bimmerworld.com
Engineered BMW Performance
540.639.9648

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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:53:08 -0800 (PST)
From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Feedback on Bimmerworld custom cages

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James,
Thanks for the reply.  I have been looking at some of the old E36 DTM cages on the 
web, and they employ a design that takes the rear section of the cage out to the 
C-pillar, then down to the shock towers.  
What are your (and others) thoughts on that design, and what must be modified to the 
internal bracing, if anything, to support a design like that?  Is this something you'd 
recommend, and if not, why not?
Thanks again,
Neil
 James Clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:No offense Neil, just an explanation. Our 
cages reflect the newest ideas in
cage and chassis design. We are constantly analyzing DTC, WRC, TA, and even
NASCAR models and employing the best ideas from them (while still remaining
legal - DTC cars no longer have a traditional roll hoop and it makes a great
structural design, but not legal in the US). We have come up with a couple
of what I think are original ideas, but I suspect that if you dug, you could
find them elsewhere - once a good idea pops up in one car, it usually is
incorporated fairly quickly on new builds in other cars. Let me know if I
can help with your cage. I have a good friend in NH that does excellent
work.


James Clay
http://www.bimmerworld.com
Engineered BMW Performance
540.639.9648






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<P>James,
<P>Thanks for the reply.&nbsp; I have been looking at some of the old E36 DTM cages on 
the web, and they employ a design that takes the rear section of the cage out to the 
C-pillar, then down to the shock towers.&nbsp; 
<P>What are your (and others) thoughts on that design, and what must be modified to 
the internal bracing, if anything, to support a design like that?&nbsp; Is this 
something you'd recommend, and if not, why not?
<P>Thanks again,
<P>Neil
<P>&nbsp;<B><I>James Clay &lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&gt;</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px 
solid">No offense Neil, just an explanation. Our cages reflect the newest ideas 
in<BR>cage and chassis design. We are constantly analyzing DTC, WRC, TA, and 
even<BR>NASCAR models and employing the best ideas from them (while still 
remaining<BR>legal - DTC cars no longer have a traditional roll hoop and it makes a 
great<BR>structural design, but not legal in the US). We have come up with a 
couple<BR>of what I think are original ideas, but I suspect that if you dug, you 
could<BR>find them elsewhere - once a good idea pops up in one car, it usually 
is<BR>incorporated fairly quickly on new builds in other cars. Let me know if I<BR>can 
help with your cage. I have a good friend in NH that does 
excellent<BR>work.<BR><BR><BR>James Clay<BR>http://www.bimmerworld.com<BR>Engineered 
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:23:46 -0500
From: "Andrew-Taylor Autosport" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Feedback on Bimmerworld custom cages

> (while still
> remaining
> legal - DTC cars no longer have a traditional roll hoop

Actually they do.  But it's pieced together slightly differently.

You could emulate the DTC cage without changing any structural quantities by
using a one piece main hoop with no more than 4 bends.  It just wouldn't fit
as well or look as nice as the way BMW did it.  Even without he typical
"main hoop with no more than 4 bends" the DTC (and 2-door version, the M3
shell) however allowed by both SCCA pro racing and Grand-Am.   On the
extreme, Audi got SCCA to allow their A4 STer chassis allowed for WC GT.  It
has nothing that even resemble a main hoop in form or function.

The E46 cage is simple, and Gustave makes an excellent point: "Also, as
pointed out by K. Johnson (based on conversations with PTG), the rear of the
Motorsport cage is purposely kept simple to allow the end-user to customize
it according to the specific rules of the racing series in question. This
eliminates the need for BMW Motorsport to make several different types of
cages for the various racing series around the globe (as was the case with
the E36 chassis). "
http://e30m3performance.com/tech_articles/cage_symposium/e46-1/index.htm

The DTC cage is elegant in its simplicity, relying on the already incredibly
stiff (and heavy) E46 chassis.  The nicest thing about the E46 DTC cage is
the gusseting and the way that it is tied into the existing shell structure.

These are still nothing compared to the current state of DTM cages.  The
current DTM cages and cars are far and above the most impressive
closed-wheel racecars ever made in the realm of closed cockpit/fendered
racecars.

BMW has the engine to use in this series, the P62 4.0L V8 from the E46M3
GTR.   And I always thought they developed this motor for the DTM, but I
suppose the F1 project keeps them away.  Too bad.  It would be awesome to
watch a fully tunneled, tube frame, carbon bodied "sorta resembles an E46"
duke it out with the Mercedes CLK-DTM and the Opels.  If I can only figure
out why the Germans like David Hasslehoff...

Andrew

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