[uucdigest] Thursday, February 6 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6094
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Re: [uuc] E36 sways Re: [uuc] You GOTTA see this Re: [uuc] <FS> E36 M3 / M coupe / M roadster rear rotors Re: [uuc] You GOTTA see this Re: [uuc] You GOTTA see this Re: [uuc] You GOTTA see this Re: [uuc] E36 sways Re: [uuc] E36 sways [uuc] FS: Wheels, Stereos, M5 accessories ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:55:55 -0500 From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Someone in San Diego? I've got a line on a suitable donor vehicle to get an engine and tranny out of for my '67 Galaxie. Problem is I'm in Virginia and the truck is in San Diego, CA. If someone out there might be able to look at it please email me soon. I want to get a vehicle and get started moving stuff over so I can drive the Gal this summer. Thanks in advance, Geeeze '67 Galaxie Convertible - needs heart and lung transplant ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 18:17:34 -0500 From: "James Clay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 sways I think the hot setup is UUC bars, Bilstein M3 shocks, and a Ground Control coilover setup. We spec out the springs to get all of the understeer out and you can choose ride quality. If you already have the 325 F struts, then RD bars are probably the way to go for a very stiff front bar. By the way, no one says you have to install the bigger rear just b/c you have it. Stiffer front and stock rear works well too.... James James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com Engineered BMW Performance 540.639.9648 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:14:23 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] <OT> Who is This Person? Groups, does anyone here know the identity or have an e-mail address for someone with this Yahoo screen name? chairman1060 Or is this person on this list? This person applied for membership in a BMW-related Yahoo group I administer, but has no profile or contact info. A Google search turned up nothing. Our group is tolerant but does not appreciate anonymity. Any assistance or hints appreciated. Thanks, Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:29:53 +0100 From: "Ulf Bertilsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: [E30Group] <OT> Who is This Person? Scott, Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? They should be able to check the logs for tracing ip. - -- Uber - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [E30Group] <OT> Who is This Person? Groups, does anyone here know the identity or have an e-mail address for someone with this Yahoo screen name? chairman1060 Or is this person on this list? This person applied for membership in a BMW-related Yahoo group I administer, but has no profile or contact info. A Google search turned up nothing. Our group is tolerant but does not appreciate anonymity. Any assistance or hints appreciated. Thanks, Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Group page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/E30 Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 18:43:57 -0500 From: "Matt Tremmel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 sways Chris 95 M3 sway (22.5) in the front and 95 M3 sway in the rear (19) will probably get you all the oversteer you want the cheapest. Based on stock springs, you get this (F/R distribution of total stiffness) M3 (22.5/19) Stock (24/18) Front stiffness 44% 55% Rear Stiffness 56% 45% More rear stiffness means more weight transfer to the rear, thus exceeding the grip of the rear tires sooner for a given lateral load. Take these for what they are worth...they are just spring stiffness calcs, from any decent suspension book. Changing the front bar to 22.5 made a noticable difference in the handling of my car. I can pretty easily get power-on oversteer now, whereas before, the front just pushed. I had tried a much bigger bar in the front (an adjustable 27 mm) hoping for a flatter turning car and thus camber behavior, but the amount of weight transfer to the front was too much. The car is just plain faster with oversteer and rolling around than flat and pushing. This is for autocross mind you. I think for the track, I would want a car with a little understeer rather than power on oversteer. But autocross is closer to street driving :) Matt Tremmel 1994 325is >Feel free to offer suggestions for my particular setup. Or offer to >sell me appropriate parts. >Thanks >Chris Baker >'94 325i ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 19:18:18 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] You GOTTA see this I meant taken, as in pushed the button on the camera. - ----------------------------------------------------- BMW Special Tool Rentals Pay per incident tech support - ----------------------------------------------------- Brett Anderson KMS (440) 338 1650 www.koalamotorsport.com OSS committee member - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [uuc] You GOTTA see this > What are you talking about? He's taken PLENTY of photos. > > Taken some from you, some from me, some from just about anyone who owns a > good pic of a funky car. > > You'd think with all that web presence, he would check his e-mail. I have > written him more than once to remove the pics that I have made, and that he > stole. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 19:23:57 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <FS> E36 M3 / M coupe / M roadster rear rotors Dave, You don't drive fast enough! ;-) Not sure who produces the factory rotors, but even if it's Brembo, that doesn't mean anything. It's the difference between OE and OEM. OEM stuff can be crap, a second, lesser quality, cheaper line from the same manufacturer. It's a standard way of supplying the aftermarket. OE means same as the factory buys. Matrix list is a BMW recommended retail price PLUS X%. It's called Matrix, because the increase is not across the board. For example, a 3 cent screw will have a matrix increase of 300% or so. A $12,000 engine will have a matrix increase of, maybe, 5%. Back to the brakes, and you're lack of using them...... With Hawk Blues, Kathy was removing at least FOUR millimeters of rotor thickness in 3 event weekends. >From factory rotors. Aftermarket Zimmermans (Brembo only makes cross drilled for this application and we're not allowed to use them) last less than 2 events unless cryo'd. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So who actually manufactures the "factor" rotors you get from the dealer. I thought it "was" Brembo? ATE? > And what is that "Matrix" list? I have noticed that on some parts, my local dealer quotes a lot higher than the undiscounted price I've been quoted from some other dealers! I've often wondered if they were working from the same price list! > FWIW, I ran around 15 driver's school weekends last year on the "cheap out" Brembo rotors without any problem. I just replaced the fronts although they still had life and I'm still using the rears. No problems at all! So I wonder if the "factory" rotors are really any better! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 19:25:57 -0500 From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] You GOTTA see this Rob hooks a large one... From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I meant taken, as in pushed the button on the camera. > From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > What are you talking about? He's taken PLENTY of photos. > > > > Taken some from you, some from me, some from just about anyone who owns a > > good pic of a funky car. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 19:32:27 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] You GOTTA see this Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was a joke, ya wanker. ;-) - - Rob - ---- Original Message ---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I meant taken, as in pushed the button on the camera. > > >----------------------------------------------------- >BMW Special Tool Rentals >Pay per incident tech support >----------------------------------------------------- >Brett Anderson >KMS >(440) 338 1650 >www.koalamotorsport.com > >OSS committee member > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:25 PM >Subject: Re: [uuc] You GOTTA see this > > >> What are you talking about? He's taken PLENTY of photos. >> >> Taken some from you, some from me, some from just about anyone who >owns a >> good pic of a funky car. >> >> You'd think with all that web presence, he would check his e-mail. >I have >> written him more than once to remove the pics that I have made, and >that he >> stole. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 19:49:47 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] You GOTTA see this Actually, I got it. Unfortunately, 25 digesters won't have. Just thought a clarification would save those 25 people all that anguish. - ----------------------------------------------------- BMW Special Tool Rentals Pay per incident tech support - ----------------------------------------------------- Brett Anderson KMS (440) 338 1650 www.koalamotorsport.com OSS committee member - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Rob hooks a large one... > > From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I meant taken, as in pushed the button on the camera. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:54:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 sways - --0-1149600517-1044579274=:64388 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii James, I'm sorry, but did I read your response right? Won't a stiffer front sway bar increase understeer if you leave the rear alone? James Clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:If you already have the 325 F struts, then RD bars are probably the way to go for a very stiff front bar. By the way, no one says you have to install the bigger rear just b/c you have it. Stiffer front and stock rear works well too.... - --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now - --0-1149600517-1044579274=:64388 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <P>James, <P>I'm sorry, but did I read your response right? Won't a stiffer front sway bar increase understeer if you leave the rear alone? <P> <B><I>James Clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">If you already have the 325 F struts, then<BR>RD bars are probably the way to go for a very stiff front bar. 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