[uucdigest] Thursday, February 6 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6093
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] JC Demo Software Re: [uuc] RE: need auto trans info Re: [uuc] <FS> E36 M3 / M coupe / M roadster rear rotors Re: [uuc] Re: [95 M3] Conforti Software Re: [uuc] <FS> E36 M3 / M coupe / M roadster rear rotors Re: [uuc] <FS> E36 M3 / M coupe / M roadster rear rotors [uuc] Strapping tires for shipping Re: [uuc] You GOTTA see this [uuc] E36 sways Re: [uuc] E36 sways [uuc] Re: Fwd: BMW Database for Sale Re: [uuc] E36 sways ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:23:33 +0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] JC Demo Software Guys, Anyone got a line on where I could possibly beg/borrow/buy a copy of the old JC demo software that was on Bonneville's website (NLA) I'm trying to improve my knowledge of the E30's ECU and there was once a demo software of Jims that had loads of info, maps etc - I vaguely remember playing with it once but think I may have stupidly deleted the thing and its NLA on his site. I reckon they've stopped offering it as it was being used by commercial outlets for all sorts of shady stuff.. Hand on heart - not for any commercial use, I work in a bank and I'm just messing around trying to learn stuff. Also I'm not in the states (imagine no O2 sensor no Cat different gas!) so shouldnt be able to come up with something to upset JC with anyway:) Any help would be great! TIA, Kul 320iC still trying AFM->MAF ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:10:27 -0600 From: "Ben White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: need auto trans info - ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><snip> Which models of the 5 or 7 series has the better auto > transmission? What is the name of this transmission?> ___________________________ Rosario, As I think others have mentioned, all the transmissions in question are good if you provide proper care. BMW NA specifies unrealistically long service intervals (lifetime in some instances). NA also specifies a very pricey ATF for some units. Having said this, you really need to narrow down the engine choices and year models that you are considering. Some trannies are for 6 cylinder engines, for example and different year model cars use different transmissions. Good luck with your quest. Ben White/Ocean Springs, MS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:42:53 -0500 From: "Dave Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <FS> E36 M3 / M coupe / M roadster rear rotors Lower your price Ben... those are dealer prices! You can get stock rear rotors from Bimmerparts.com for around $50 or less, Brembo, I think. Dave Kelley > > E36 M3 & M coupe/roadster rear rotors - brand new, one still > in sealed packaging, the other has been removed & put onto a > hub to check clearance but never torqued down. retail is > ~$80/each, $125 obo + actual shipping from 48220. > > these are directionally vented rotors, unique (as far as the > ETK shows) to the E36 M3 & M coupe & roadster. > > http://members.roadfly.com/m_ben/m3_rear_rotors_a.jpg > > > > Ben > cleaning out the extra parts... > > _______________ Dave Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wireless: 803-606-9882 Home: 803-749-6754 Work: 803-407-1018 Fax: 803-407-0466 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:47:24 -0500 From: "Dave Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: [95 M3] Conforti Software Jim C. just had some posts on Bimmerforums about this. The ECU can adapt by about 25%. If you get larger injectors, you need a new chip because increasing the flow through the injectors by 50% would be more than the 25% range on the adaption by the ECU. This thread was all started by a guy who installed larger injectors without getting a new chip and claimed everything was fine. Jim C. disagreed! :-) Dave Kelley > William, I'm no expert, but I think the limiting factor is > the injectors. Opening up the intake and exhaust will, in > theory, allow more air to flow through the engine. The MAS > will measure the amount of air and send the appropriate > signal to the ECU. The ECU will then set injection > paramaters (how long the injectors are open) to match. As > long as the injectors are capable of supplying the right > amount of fuel for the amount of air entering the engine, > I'm pretty sure the Conforti chip will adapt and properly > match it. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here. > > OTOH, if you're actually able to to get so much more air > into the cylinders that the stock injectors can't match up, > then you'd need either larger injectors and/or a higher > rated fuel pressure regulator, and probably a custom chip to > match. So the answer to your question is, probably, it > depends on the mods that you haven't yet made. I recommend > buying the chip now for your current configuration and > getting some enjoyment out of it while you're waiting for > the other mods to happen. > > I'd be interested to see if those with E36 M3 experience > share my opinions on this. > > Scott Miller > GGC BMW CCA > > >Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:16:28 -0500 > >From: "William T. Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: [uuc] [95 M3] Conforti Software > > > >I'm about to purchase a JC chip for my 95 M3. All engine > >and exhaust components are stock. However I did plan to > >upgrade in the future. My question is, will I have to > >purchase a new chip when I upgrade to a new exhaust, Intake > >and so on? > > > >Thanks in advance > > > >W. Wallace > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:10:03 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <FS> E36 M3 / M coupe / M roadster rear rotors Dealer list is $79.50 each. Matrix list, which is what most dealers charge, is about $90 each. So what's wrong with asking for $62.50 each for brand new factory rotors? Not everyone is willing to cheap out on brakes, Brembo or otherwise, the factory rotors are still the best choice for this car. I'd buy them myself except I just bought 4 complete sets. - ----------------------------------------------------- BMW Special Tool Rentals Pay per incident tech support - ----------------------------------------------------- Brett Anderson KMS (440) 338 1650 www.koalamotorsport.com OSS committee member - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Lower your price Ben... those are dealer prices! You can get stock rear rotors from > Bimmerparts.com for around $50 or less, Brembo, I think. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 10:56:42 -0500 From: "Dave Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <FS> E36 M3 / M coupe / M roadster rear rotors So who actually manufactures the "factor" rotors you get from the dealer. I thought it "was" Brembo? ATE? And what is that "Matrix" list? I have noticed that on some parts, my local dealer quotes a lot higher than the undiscounted price I've been quoted from some other dealers! I've often wondered if they were working from the same price list! FWIW, I ran around 15 driver's school weekends last year on the "cheap out" Brembo rotors without any problem. I just replaced the fronts although they still had life and I'm still using the rears. No problems at all! So I wonder if the "factory" rotors are really any better! Dave Kelley > Dealer list is $79.50 each. Matrix list, which is what most > dealers charge, is about $90 each. So what's wrong with > asking for $62.50 each for brand new factory rotors? > > Not everyone is willing to cheap out on brakes, Brembo or > otherwise, the factory rotors are still the best choice for > this car. > > I'd buy them myself except I just bought 4 complete sets. > > ----------------------------------------------------- > BMW Special Tool Rentals > Pay per incident tech support > ----------------------------------------------------- > Brett Anderson > KMS > (440) 338 1650 > www.koalamotorsport.com > > OSS committee member > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Lower your price Ben... those are dealer prices! You can > > get stock rear > rotors from > > Bimmerparts.com for around $50 or less, Brembo, I think. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:34:21 -0800 From: "T WALROD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Strapping tires for shipping A common question has been how to attach tires and wheels to each other to ship in pairs. A sub question involves where one gets plastic strapping like the Tirerack uses. I notice that Harborfreight has a strapping tool, crimp sleeves, and 338' rolls of strapping for $30 - $20 if you catch it on sale. 338' - shoot, you could strap yer tires and do manly gift wrapping for the rest of the year with that bad boy! <http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=42661> No stock in Tirerack or Harborfreight, don't own the strapping tool, no guarantee of suitability for your application - but maybe this helps someone. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:25:37 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] You GOTTA see this What are you talking about? He's taken PLENTY of photos. Taken some from you, some from me, some from just about anyone who owns a good pic of a funky car. You'd think with all that web presence, he would check his e-mail. I have written him more than once to remove the pics that I have made, and that he stole. - - Rob - ----- Original Message ----- From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] You GOTTA see this > Aww, man!.... I've been relegated to the second page. > > At least this guy appears to have removed his "all photos are copyright > Jimmy540i" statement, considering he's almost certainly never taken a photo in > his life, just lifts them from the internet. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Nichols" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > I ran across this web site this morning and almost split my sides laughing. > I can't even begin to decribe the lack of taste it took to build these cars. > > > > http://www.jimmy540i.com/bmwnightmare.htm > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:43:23 -0500 From: "Chris Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E36 sways Just doing a little thinking before the summer... I currently have a '94 325i with Bilstein Sports and H&R Sports. The sway bars are stock. The springs and shocks/struts got rid of a lot of the understeer, and I'd like to get rid of some more. Like all of it. I'm not necessarily interested in getting the flattest cornering possible, since this is my daily driver and I drive in Michigan so the ride quality is of some (minor) concern. Spending as little as possible is also a household priority. By household I mean my wife. Anyway, can anyone tell me what size the stock bars are in my car (sport package) so I can make some comparisons? I'm hoping I can do something like just put in a rear M3 bar, assuming it is bigger, and see what I think of that. Or just buy a rear bar from some other set that may kick things in the right directions. Feel free to offer suggestions for my particular setup. Or offer to sell me appropriate parts. Thanks Chris Baker '94 325i ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:17:47 -0500 From: "Zionsville Autosport" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 sways > Anyway, can anyone tell me what size the stock bars are in my car (sport > package) so I can make some comparisons? I'm hoping I can do something > like just put in a rear M3 bar, assuming it is bigger, and see what I > think of that. chris your car came with a 24mm front swaybar (M3s are smaller due to different chassis design/setup) and an 18mm rear bar (as opposed to 15mm in the non-sport suspension). the '95 M3 came with a 19mm rear bar and '96 and later e36 M3 cars had a 20mm rear swaybar. hope that helps. jason - ----------------------------------- Zionsville Autosport "BMW Parts Specialists" http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:36:25 -0800 From: Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Fwd: BMW Database for Sale in a message on 2/5/03 2:59 PM wrote: > Fwd: BMW Database for Sale Not to worry, he's also been reported to BMW's legal department for the the copyright and logo use violations on the web domain he's trying to sell. At least that's the word I got after a lot of clubs got spammed by his attempt to sell the domain and the database, and someone reported him. I just hope he's not a lurker on this board as well. RD ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 14:38:15 -0800 (PST) From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 sways - --0-1745448898-1044571095=:91307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Chris, I'm sure others will have differing opinions, but here's mine. I have a 94 325is with the same spring/shock setup. I have the Eibach swaybar set, and while I have found it to be extremely well balanced, it by no means eliminates all the understeer. Further, it is one of the largest diameter bar sets I am aware of. I found a modest decrease in understeer with the x-brace/front strut brace (Dinan)/rear shock brace. Recently, I have eliminated nearly all hint of understeer by the addition of a few components - TC Kline front camber plates, Ground Control rear camber arms, and urethane subframe mounts. Skidpadding the car now is a breeze - turn in, brush the brakes and "Holy rotation, Batman!" - where it used to require e-brake assistance. However, these components mightn't be so forgiving to Michigan roads - perhaps try the urethane-based K-Mac or GC street camber plates up front... Advice, as always, worth what it cost... Regards, Neil Chris Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Just doing a little thinking before the summer... I currently have a '94 325i with Bilstein Sports and H&R Sports. The sway bars are stock. The springs and shocks/struts got rid of a lot of the understeer, and I'd like to get rid of some more. Like all of it. I'm not necessarily interested in getting the flattest cornering possible, since this is my daily driver and I drive in Michigan so the ride quality is of some (minor) concern. Spending as little as possible is also a household priority. By household I mean my wife. Anyway, can anyone tell me what size the stock bars are in my car (sport package) so I can make some comparisons? I'm hoping I can do something like just put in a rear M3 bar, assuming it is bigger, and see what I think of that. Or just buy a rear bar from some other set that may kick things in the right directions. Feel free to offer suggestions for my particular setup. Or offer to sell me appropriate parts. Thanks Chris Baker '94 325i - --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now - --0-1745448898-1044571095=:91307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <P>Chris, <P>I'm sure others will have differing opinions, but here's mine. I have a 94 325is with the same spring/shock setup. <P>I have the Eibach swaybar set, and while I have found it to be extremely well balanced, it by no means eliminates all the understeer. Further, it is one of the largest diameter bar sets I am aware of. I found a modest decrease in understeer with the x-brace/front strut brace (Dinan)/rear shock brace. <P>Recently, I have eliminated nearly all hint of understeer by the addition of a few components - TC Kline front camber plates, Ground Control rear camber arms, and urethane subframe mounts. Skidpadding the car now is a breeze - turn in, brush the brakes and "Holy rotation, Batman!" - where it used to require e-brake assistance. <P>However, these components mightn't be so forgiving to Michigan roads - perhaps try the urethane-based K-Mac or GC street camber plates up front... <P>Advice, as always, worth what it cost... <P>Regards, <P>Neil <P> <B><I>Chris Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Just doing a little thinking before the summer...<BR><BR>I currently have a '94 325i with Bilstein Sports and H&R Sports. The<BR>sway bars are stock. The springs and shocks/struts got rid of a lot of<BR>the understeer, and I'd like to get rid of some more. Like all of it.<BR>I'm not necessarily interested in getting the flattest cornering<BR>possible, since this is my daily driver and I drive in Michigan so the<BR>ride quality is of some (minor) concern. Spending as little as possible<BR>is also a household priority. By household I mean my wife.<BR><BR>Anyway, can anyone tell me what size the stock bars are in my car (sport<BR>package) so I can make some comparisons? I'm hoping I can do something<BR>like just put in a rear M3 bar, assuming it is bigger, and see what I<BR>think of that. Or just buy a rear bar from some other set that may kick<BR>things in the right directions.<BR><BR>F! eel free to offer suggestions for my particular setup. Or offer to<BR>sell me appropriate parts.<BR><BR>Thanks<BR><BR>Chris Baker<BR>'94 325i<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!?<br> <a href="http://rd.yahoo.com/mail/mailsig/*http://mailplus.yahoo.com";>Yahoo! Mail Plus</a> - Powerful. 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