[uucdigest] Thursday, February 13 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6111
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: RE: [uuc] Towing with an X5 -- or a 540i touring wagon RE: [uuc] Towing with an X5 -- or a 540i touring wagon [uuc] Towing with an X5 -- or a 540i touring wagon RE: [uuc] Towing with an X5 -- or a 540i touring wagon [uuc] FS: AC Schnitzer type I wheels Re: [uuc] Towing with an X5 -- or a 540i touring wagon [uuc] re: Code Readers [uuc] '97 540iA for sale in Nashville ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:39:56 -0500 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Towing with an X5 -- or a 540i touring wagon I'm actually shopping for an enclosed trailer too, and was told that one I'm considering was 1800 lbs., BUT I also know that it isn't the lightest -- it's not all aluminum... so he may be off with the weight. Will recheck. I'd like an enclosed trailer as it essentially would give me an additional garage space, but maybe I can just rent an open one from uhaul for my trips.... And does the 4.6 actually have a bigger towing rating? vty, - --Dennis - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil N. Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Towing with an X5 -- or a 540i touring wagon Dennis, I can't give you any personal experiences, but I met someone at the Glen that uses his wife's X5 to tow his 635si on a Trailex open trailer. IIRC, I think he even had the X5 3.0. He told me it towed that setup very well. What kind of enclosed trailer do you have that only weighs 1,800 lbs? Is yours a Trailex too? Those seem to be the lightest ones I've come across in my research. If the 4.4i doesn't do it, you could always convince your wife you need the 4.6is. Just tell her the big, wide tires improve accident avoidance or something... :) Neil - --- Dennis Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's an interesting question (well, interesting to > me at least).... > > Does anyone tow with their X5? Or their 540 wagon? > > Does anyone know what the tow rating is for the 540? > I think that BMW NA > does not publish any tow ratings for the 540 in the > US, but I would think > they must in Europe, because when I've driven on the > continent, I've seen > every make of BMW from Z3 on up towing things -- > even a 520(ish) wagon > towing a giant camper for vacations. > > I'm looking to buy a new mommy-vehicle for the wife. > Would love to be able > to use it as a tow vehicle; 1800-2000 lbs. enclosed > trailer, 3000lbs. car. > So an X5 with a 6000lbs. rating is probably on the > marginal side, but it > would only be a half-dozen times a year, if that. > > I know that something like a Suburban would be > ideal, but I do NOT enjoy > driving big trucks on a daily basis -- hence the > interest in an X5. But I > also know that a 540 wagon actually has more room > than an X5, and aside from > lacking AWD, is more fun to drive. > > So, any and all suggestions welcome! And any links > to websites with more > info on X5s (and 540 tourings) would be most > appreciated. > > thx, > > --Dennis > > > > > . > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:39:06 -0500 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Towing with an X5 -- or a 540i touring wagon Thanks Gary.... I thought about towing with my 740iL, but worried about the abuse the transmission would take. I guess it would be no worse than the abuse that would happen with the X5 or the 540 wagon.... If the 540 wagon is rated only for 3500lbs., than that crosses it off the list.... - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gary Derian Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Towing with an X5 -- or a 540i touring wagon AFAIK 5 series are rated at 3500 lb. The E34 has nice hitch mounting points built into the rear frame. E39 likely has same. Bekkers or Maximillian can get Euro hitch kits, but those have Euro setups and lighting. Will Zareska has towed 5000+ lbs with his 7 series, only problem was cracked rear wheels (18 inch M parallel). Gary Derian > Here's an interesting question (well, interesting to me at least).... > > Does anyone tow with their X5? Or their 540 wagon? > > Does anyone know what the tow rating is for the 540? I think that BMW NA > does not publish any tow ratings for the 540 in the US, but I would think > they must in Europe, because when I've driven on the continent, I've seen > every make of BMW from Z3 on up towing things -- even a 520(ish) wagon > towing a giant camper for vacations. > > I'm looking to buy a new mommy-vehicle for the wife. Would love to be able > to use it as a tow vehicle; 1800-2000 lbs. enclosed trailer, 3000lbs. car. > So an X5 with a 6000lbs. rating is probably on the marginal side, but it > would only be a half-dozen times a year, if that. > > I know that something like a Suburban would be ideal, but I do NOT enjoy > driving big trucks on a daily basis -- hence the interest in an X5. But I > also know that a 540 wagon actually has more room than an X5, and aside from > lacking AWD, is more fun to drive. > > So, any and all suggestions welcome! And any links to websites with more > info on X5s (and 540 tourings) would be most appreciated. > > thx, > > --Dennis > > > > > . > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:48:42 -0500 From: "Gaudio, Stefano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Towing with an X5 -- or a 540i touring wagon I'm not at all a fan of SUVs and even though the X5 is a SAV and drives pretty well, it's still 5,000lbs. Your dilemma is pretty interesting to me since I would much rather buy a 540iT (I wish they offered the 6spd on it) than a X5. Unfortunately, I don't think the 540iT would cut it for you since you have about 5,000lb to tow. I found an article w the towing capacity of a A6 allroad rated @ 3,300lb. http://www.thecarplace.com/famaudi.htm The A6 has less torque (252 vs. 324) but AWD. I think in the best case scenario the 540iT might be able to tow 4,000lb :-( So I guess that's out of the question unless you are willing to risk your $50K+ new bimmer, your trailer+cargo, and your safety. I like bimmers but the S6 can probably get your job done and be a whole lot of fun to drive. Stefano in response to: - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:57:06 -0500 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Towing with an X5 -- or a 540i touring wagon Here's an interesting question (well, interesting to me at least).... Does anyone tow with their X5? Or their 540 wagon? Does anyone know what the tow rating is for the 540? I think that BMW NA does not publish any tow ratings for the 540 in the US, but I would think they must in Europe, because when I've driven on the continent, I've seen every make of BMW from Z3 on up towing things -- even a 520(ish) wagon towing a giant camper for vacations. I'm looking to buy a new mommy-vehicle for the wife. Would love to be able to use it as a tow vehicle; 1800-2000 lbs. enclosed trailer, 3000lbs. car. So an X5 with a 6000lbs. rating is probably on the marginal side, but it would only be a half-dozen times a year, if that. I know that something like a Suburban would be ideal, but I do NOT enjoy driving big trucks on a daily basis -- hence the interest in an X5. But I also know that a 540 wagon actually has more room than an X5, and aside from lacking AWD, is more fun to drive. So, any and all suggestions welcome! And any links to websites with more info on X5s (and 540 tourings) would be most appreciated. thx, - - --Dennis . - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:06:19 -0800 (PST) From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Towing with an X5 -- or a 540i touring wagon Dennis, you may want to check that carefully - I know that Haulmark and Featherlite, which I regard to be good names in enclosed trailers, will run around or upwards of 3,000 pounds for a 20-ish foot enclosed; possibly more if you're talking wood side panels, floor, etc. The Trailex may come in sub-2,000, but it's also around $14,000. Ouch. Personally, I wouldn't want to be hauling one of those behind an X5 of any kind. Every enclosed trailer I remember seeing has been behind a full size American van/pickup/SUV. I'm not saying it can't be done, but I can tell you you probably don't want to tow a setup that close to (or above) the vehicle's load limit. Regarding the 4.6, I doubt its tow rating is actually higher, but the important question is - would your wife believe it is? In my experience, renting an open trailer from U-Haul is not easy. You need to know pretty well in advance, as many UH centers, at least in my area, don't readily have many of these. I think Penske may rent some, IIRC, but similar availability problems exist. Plus, it's around $150 per day, IIRC, so if you go anywhere far for a multi-day school, you're looking at a good chunk of an open trailer. You may want to look at the Trailex open trailer, which is supposed to be quite nice, but $$$. I'll soon be buying a Featherlite open trailer, and will store it (with the car on it) in a Cover-It aluminum framed garage-tent we have on the side of our house. Total cost of trailer + garage = less than open trailer. Something to think about, as I don't regard these tempo-garages as much less attractive to have on one's property than a parked trailer... - - Neil - --- Dennis Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm actually shopping for an enclosed trailer too, > and was told that one I'm > considering was 1800 lbs., BUT I also know that it > isn't the lightest -- > it's not all aluminum... so he may be off with the > weight. Will recheck. > > I'd like an enclosed trailer as it essentially would > give me an additional > garage space, but maybe I can just rent an open one > from uhaul for my > trips.... > > And does the 4.6 actually have a bigger towing > rating? > > vty, > > --Dennis > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:13:09 -0600 From: "Bill Yates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] FS: AC Schnitzer type I wheels For Sale: AC Schnitzer type I wheels (4) (17x8.5 et13) w/BFG R1s 235/45-17 Great wheels for e24, 28, e34 BMWs - $1,200 Shipped http://dyates.home.texas.net/For%20Sale/ACS%201234.JPG Thanks, Bill Yates Austin, TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:16:02 -0800 (PST) From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Towing with an X5 -- or a 540i touring wagon I have no specific data on which to make this statement, so I could be wrong, but here's my gut... No way. I'm sorry, but no normal sedan based car is fit to tow an enclosed trailer with a car and complement of tires/tools/people/etc. The tongue weight alone of that setup would need to be roughly 500-750 lbs., according to recommended trailer weight distributions and the total weight of the proposed setup. I certainly hope the S6 has rear wheel steering, because those are going to be the only ones touching the ground. - - Neil > I like bimmers but the S6 can probably get your job > done and be a whole lot > of fun to drive. > > Stefano > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:17:01 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] re: Code Readers re: Code Readers Check Jegs, at www.jegs.com for code readers for American cars. Look in the "Tools" listing on their website. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:29:30 -0600 From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] '97 540iA for sale in Nashville My boss is looking to sell his 1997 540iA. The car is in the Nashville, TN area. He purchased it used several years ago. Here are the details on the car: Year - 1997 Make - BMW Model - 540i Price - $20,995 Mileage - 70,100 Exterior - White Interior - Tan Body - 4 door sedan Transmission - Automatic Air Conditioning(Front & Rear), Alloy Wheels, AM-FM Stereo Radio with Cassette Player and 6 Disk CD Changer, Anti-Lock Breaking System, Body Side Moldings, Dual Zone Climate Control, Clock, Cruise Control, Gauge Cluster, Information Center, Tachometer, Trip Odometer, Carpeting, Console, Courtesy Lights, Dual Sport Mirrors, Driver Side Airbag, Passenger Side Airbag, Side Impact Airbags, Front Bucket Seats, Power Memory Driver's Seat, Power Passenger Seat, Reclining Seats, Inside Hood Release, Interval Wipers, Rear Window Defroster, Keyless Entry, Leather Interior, Leather Wrap Steering Wheel, Map Lights, Moon Roof, Power Brakes, Power Door Locks w/Anti Theft System, Power Outside Mirrors, Power Steering, Power Windows, Rear Wheel Drive, Steering Wheel Audio Controls, Telescoping Steering Wheel, Tilt Steering Wheel Wheel, Tinted Glass, Variable Assist Speed Sensitive, 4 Wheel Disc Brakes, 18.5 Gallon Fuel Tank. This White 4DR Sedan with tan leather interior has 70,100 Miles. It is in excellent condition and comes with all manuals and 2 sets of keys. The tires are almost new. Front brakes are brand new and the BMW Inspection II($900) was performed in November. I have a clean CarFax report that I can fax or e-mail to you. The 540i is one of the best driving cars on the road today-luxury AND performance! This White 1997 BMW is nicely equipped with all of the standard luxury amenities for which the Ultimate Driving Machine is known! ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6111 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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