[uucdigest] Friday, February 21 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6128
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Re: [uuc] Check Engine Light E30 Code 1211 [uuc] <misc> changes to your insurance policy Re: [uuc] E28 Engine Swap Re: [uuc] [E28] stuff for sale ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:00:57 -0800 From: "T WALROD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Speaking of E28s - engine swapping Many thanks to all who chimed in on this - from Brett's succinct "plug and play" to Brad's multi part excursion into ABS and transmission swapping and Scott's exploration of alternative options, all was helpful. As it turned out the donor 535 went for more than I wanted to play, er, pay. I still think a 535 with a 533 flywheel and 535 engine management would be pretty nice in a 533. Maybe next time. I'll be watching for 535s to be rear-ended in this area. so watcher ashes! Tom 5er graveyard ghoul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:39:50 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E28 Engine Swap > I do remember that the weight was almost > exactly the same (according to the big scale you drive on to at the dump > south of San Francisco). All U.S. Spec. 533 and 535 (and M5) models had > power windows. Almost being a relative term, when a true performance geek will consider 50-100lb a HUGE saving. 533i did not have power seats, that's got to be worth 20lb per seat, alone. Take out the ABS controller and that's another 10lb, anything else is a bonus. > A 533i with a 535i engine will always be worth > less than a 535i in similar condition. You may pay a little more to get the > car you want, but you will get the money back when you sell it Except in reality, neither car is worth anything anyway. Reality is that, other than mint, low mileage, collectors examples, once a car reaches a certain age, or mileage, it's price stabilizes. You can always sell a running car for $1500, regardless of it's condition, regardless of it's make and model. If it runs and drives, it's worth $1500. Taking this into account, and the fact that the original poster, with 230K+ miles on his car, will have to spend mucho maintenance dollars on the drivetrain soon, then with $1000 for the parts, and some sweat equity, he's onto a good thing. Plus he can still get some money for the left over 535i parts, and his 533i drivetrain. The bare cylinder head alone is worth $300-$500 because it fits all the big sixes up until the Motronic 1.3 cars came along. Sometimes a custom modification isn't worth it. For example, converting a perfectly good E46 automatic to a manual. Sell the car and buy the one you want. But all cars reach a point where it doesn't matter anymore. He won't add value to his car, but he won't deduct value either. - ----------------------------------------------------- BMW Special Tool Rentals Pay per incident tech support - ----------------------------------------------------- Brett Anderson KMS (440) 338 1650 www.koalamotorsport.com OSS committee member ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:52:12 -0800 From: "T WALROD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] 533/535 swap Brett - thanks for expounding on plug and play. I have filed your tips on the swap and on the dash replacement in the old grey matter. Noted and agreed on doing the clutch while the engine/trans is out of the car. Much easier, cheap insurance. Don't I recall you saying a week or so ago that the 533 clutch will fit in a 535 bell housing but the 535 clutch won't fit in the 533's? And do I recall reading that the '87 535 transmission is stronger than the 533's? Moot now, since the 535 went for more than I wanted to pay. But I'm watching.. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:14:15 -0500 From: "Ron J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E28> 02 Sensor broken wire.. Possible additional source? Hi All, Today I was getting the exhaust system looked at due to the little fire, and having another hangar put in. When the car was up on the hoist, I was looking at the undercarriage, and noticed that the O2 sensor had one of the wires broken. There were 3 wires, 1 black, 2 white, and one of the white ones was broken off. I am wondering if this is also contribuiting to the lean running condition of the car... Anyone know? Secondly Is the O2 sensor calibrates specifically for the car, or is it an interchangable one that is used for other cars as well. As for the exhaust., I had them add some heat sheilds around the resonators to make sure it doesnt happen again, though I doubt it will since the lean condition seems to have disappeared. The car runs a lot smoother now, accelerates a lot better, and seems to be using less gas. Cheers Ron J 85 535i 73 911s 2.7 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:21:41 -0500 From: "Ron J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E28> Windshield Replacement.. Hi All, I was on the highway recently behind a truck, and it threw up a large stone that hit my windshield and caused it to spiderweb across the entire thing. I called my insurance company, and found out that they don't cover windshields with the policy.. Strange.. I have collision, fire/theft, and all the other stuff, but no glass coverage. Someone explained that a lot of insurance companies are removing the coverage of glass from their policies, and unless you specifically ask for it, you dont get it. Anyway, I now need another winshield, and since I am going to have to pay out of pocket, I am wondering if there are other options beside the factory one that came with the car. Were there any winshield options? like coatings, or something? As for price, I was quoted $250 CAD, or about $175 USD.. is that about the right rate? While I am at it I was thinking I would like the shadowline trim, and could start with the windshield trim.. Where can I get the stuff? Is it only a factory supplied thing? or is the shadowline trim made by others as well, hopefully for a lesser price. Any info would be appreciated Cheers Ron J 85 535i 73 911s 2.7 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:33:29 -0800 (PST) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E28> 02 Sensor broken wire.. Possible additional source? Ron, see replies below: - --- Ron J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: noticed that the O2 > sensor had one of the > wires broken. There were 3 wires, 1 black, 2 white, and > one of the white > ones was broken off. I am wondering if this is also > contribuiting to the > lean running condition of the car... Anyone know? Yes. If your FPR was contributing 10% less fuel than the original one, as Gary D. pointed out, and your EGO sensor wire was cut, then the sensor couldn't tell the DME to increase the rate of fuel injection to make up for the reduced flow. > > Secondly Is the O2 sensor calibrates specifically for the > car, or is it an > interchangable one that is used for other cars as well. > There are universal O2 sensors, and model-specific ones. They do the same job. If you get a 4-wire universal sensor (less $$), you'll have to modify it slightly to make it work. I've not done that, so others will chime in. > As for the exhaust., I had them add some heat sheilds > around the resonators > to make sure it doesnt happen again, though I doubt it > will since the lean > condition seems to have disappeared. > Probably a good safety net. > The car runs a lot smoother now, accelerates a lot > better, and seems to be > using less gas. Good deal. tammer f. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:56:54 -0500 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Check Engine Light E30 Code 1211 Thanks, She was brave enough to do the "stomp test" to get the code by telephone direction, but won't take apart the trunk to pull a battery cable . . . besides, she would lose her tunes, since the CD player would need to be recoded and I have no record of which of the five in-dash CD players is in her car (without pulling the unit and getting the serial number). Ed KMS - Brett Anderson wrote: >Have her disconnect the battery for 10 minutes and see what happens. > >Alternately, if the vehicle is showing no sign of a problem other than the >light, she should be ok for the drive home. > > >----------------------------------------------------- >BMW Special Tool Rentals >Pay per incident tech support >----------------------------------------------------- >Brett Anderson >KMS >(440) 338 1650 >www.koalamotorsport.com > >OSS committee member > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ed MacVaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>My daughter is reporting the above code on her E30 325is. The code >>translates to a DME fault, I believe. Is this a possible spurious error, >>or should I be looking for a used DME? >>She is in Norfolk. Can she safely drive this car back to Baltimore? >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:00:04 -0800 (PST) From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <misc> changes to your insurance policy My newest State Farm policy, in addition to being 20% higher this period through no fault of my own, contains an interesting new twist. There will be no coverage for loss to any vehicle that results from nuclear reaction - radiation, radioactive contamination, accidental or intentional. Now I can understand an insurer not wanting to pay for new electronics for a million cars at once if someone sets off an EMP. Generally, anything that can happen to multiple people at once isn't covered by insurance. More interestingly, they will now surely be refusing to pay for anything relating to faded paint, fabric, or cracked dashboards, as UV light is most certainly radiation produced by a nuclear reaction. It's not as if this was a common payout before now, but I just find it curious. - -- "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster." -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:56:40 -0800 (PST) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E28 Engine Swap - --- Kevin Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brad Couvillon (who is now famous since his photo > was in the recent Roundel) > wrote: Autographs are $50. E-mail me for my mailing address to mail the money order. ; -) > All U.S. Spec. 533 and 535 > (and M5) models had > power windows. I could've sworn some 533i's had crank windows. Brett said that some 533i's had manual seats, so maybe this is what I was thinking. . . who knows. > You do learn a lot when you swap and engines, but > the one big thing I have > learned after working on BMWs (including swapping > engines)for over 20 years > is that you are always better off selling a car and > buying a new one if you > want a different engine. A 533i with a 535i engine > will always be worth > less than a 535i in similar condition. You may pay > a little more to get the > car you want, but you will get the money back when > you sell it and you won't > have to spend hours fixing the dozens of problems > that always pop up after > an engine swap. Where's the fun in just selling the car? Have you taken into account the amount of time and money it will cost to sell the car and find the one you want? I also feel that the things you learn from working on your own car are priceless. You can't earn that kind of money by just buying another car. Also, you can sell the old parts in the same way that you would sell the old car. Brett had some better thought-out comments on this than I, so I'll stop here. : -) Brad Couvillon __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 01:55:47 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] [E28] stuff for sale Hi James. Will you ship the diff for $200? Thanks Brett - ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Muskopf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMWUUCDigest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "DCmetroBMW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:29 PM Subject: [uuc] [E28] stuff for sale > -- Complete E28 interior, two tone burgundy leather with anthracite > grey trim and carpet. Includes POWER front seats with switches and > all necessary wiring, door panels, center consoles, glove box, > driver's knee panel, door handles, and interior carpet. All parts are > in very good condition, leather is in good to very good condition. > Pics will be up on my website soon. Asking $400. > > -- Complete 4-piston M5/M6 brake setup with good used rotors (not > warped!), stainless lines, Hawk HP Plus pads, and rebuilt calipers. > $650 OBO. > > -- Complete E34 non-vented rear brakes (300x10mm) with calipers, > rotors, and BMW OE pads, all in good used condition. Excellent > upgrade for any 1983+ 6er or E28. $250 OBO. Get both M5 front and E34 > rear brakes for $800. > > -- Complete 5-speed conversion for E28 including pedals/bracket, > clutch master, slave, Getrag 265/6 with removable bellhousing, > mounts, driveshaft, guibo, shifter, flywheel, clutch, just about > every little part necessary. Transmission has high miles but shifts > smoothly, Red Line MTL used exclusively for the last 150k miles. > Driveshaft rebuilt by Driveline Services of Portland. $600 OBO. > > -- 3.73 differential for E24 E28 E30, good condition, not limited > slip, $200 OBO. > > -- Blizzak snow tires on 14" BMW steel wheels with original E12 > chrome hubcaps. See http://muskopf.com/fs_snowtires.html > Asking $150. > > Email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with questions or offers. > Thanks! > JamesM > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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