[uucdigest] Tuesday, March 4 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6170
_________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.bmwdatabase.com | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Buttonwillow 3/14 track day Re: [uuc] WA state to regulate racing schools (part 2) Re: [uuc] WA state to regulate racing schools (part 2) [uuc] RE: Trucks and Road Atlanta Re: [uuc] RE: Trucks and Road Atlanta RE: [uuc] 95 M3 MOTOR WEIGHT [uuc] <E34>Looking at E34 touring... Re: [uuc] 95 M3 MOTOR WEIGHT Re: [uuc] <E34>Looking at E34 touring... RE: [uuc] <E34>Looking at E34 touring... Re: Re: [uuc] WA state to regulate racing schools (part 2) [uuc] Re: Lightnings and other fast Fords Re: Re: [uuc] WA state to regulate racing schools (part 2) Re: [uuc] Re: Lightnings and other fast Fords ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 11:38:36 -0800 From: "Juan Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Buttonwillow 3/14 track day Hi guys, A group I drive with sometimes has just dropped the price on their upcoming 3/14 Buttonwillow track day to $160. If you are looking for some cheap track time check out http://www.unlimitedlaps.com/eventdetails/20030314.html There are usually three run groups divided by experience and instructors available for the beginners. Juan Bruce BMW CCA GGC '85 M635CSi '95 M3 _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:57:48 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] WA state to regulate racing schools (part 2) Does that mean no more drivers schools in WA state without a roll cage? Not sure about some of those sanctioning bodies listed, but those that I do recognize all require roll cages. - ----------------------------------------------------- BMW Special Tool Rentals Pay per incident tech support - ----------------------------------------------------- Brett Anderson KMS (440) 338 1650 www.koalamotorsport.com OSS committee member > {+ NEW SECTION. +} Sec. 6. APPLICATION > REQUIREMENTS AND CRITERIA. > (1) For a race car driving school to qualify > for a license to operate in this state, the > following must be demonstrated to the department's > satisfaction: > (a) The vehicles in operation at the school > and the track used by the school must adhere to > safety-related specifications set forth in the > rule books of one of the following sanctioning > bodies: > (i) The National Association of Stock Car > Auto Racing; > (ii) The Sports Car Club of America; > (iii) The National Hot Rod Association; > (iv) The National Auto Sport Association; > (v) The Championship Auto Racing Teams; or > (vi) The Indy Racing League. > (b) If a school is using a vehicle type or a > track not included in the specifications of one of > the sanctioning bodies provided for in (1) of this > section, the director shall determine the > eligibility of the school and use of the vehicle > or track on a case by case basis under chapter > 34.05 RCW. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:07:31 -0800 (PST) From: Vic Maslanka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] WA state to regulate racing schools (part 2) I suppose it all will depend on the legal definition of "race car driving school." It doesn't seem to regulate a "high performance street car driving school." Vic Maslanka - --- KMS - Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does that mean no more drivers schools in WA state without a roll > cage? > > Not sure about some of those sanctioning bodies listed, but those > that I do > recognize all require roll cages. > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:03:55 -0800 From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: Trucks and Road Atlanta Brett, > From a pick up truck forum.......Yeah, there's a performance vehicle! Who was that in the truck with Duane when they spanked a few BMW's in that Autocross many years ago? HE HE. - -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 16:27:49 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: Trucks and Road Atlanta Ahh, Raf and Duane. But that wasn't an Autocross, it was a Gymkhana, a little more than driving skill needed in that. ;-) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > From a pick up truck forum.......Yeah, there's a performance vehicle! > > Who was that in the truck with Duane when they spanked a few BMW's in that > Autocross many years ago? > HE HE. > -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 16:59:11 -0500 From: "Chris Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] 95 M3 MOTOR WEIGHT Does a BMW short block, unlike a U.S. counterpart, include the head(s)? Or does "short engine" not equate to "short block"? Just curious. Chris B. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Van Houten > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 12:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [uuc] 95 M3 MOTOR WEIGHT > > > > I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH THE S50 WEIGHS.DID SOME > SEARCHING ON THE NET > > WITH NO LUCK. ANYONE KNOW ? > > According to the ETK, the "Short Engine" (block, head, oil > canister) weighs > 153kg or 337lbs. > > JVH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:25:19 -0800 (PST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] <E34>Looking at E34 touring... My neighbor is looking at an E34 525iT, and I was wondering what common maladies the car has. Car has 130k mi and has been garaged. I'm very familiar with the M50 powerplant and its issues (as is my meighbor who owns a 1995 E36M. I understand the transmission can be a bit problematic. Can it be replaced with a 5 speed if it dies? Also I understand the Sunroof can be an expensive mess. Any other problem areas? What are the better E34 sites out there? This group tends to be E36 centric (though that may just be my internal filter). Thanks in advance, Marc Plante E36 325i, 211k Vienna, VA Marc Plante [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:39:33 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] 95 M3 MOTOR WEIGHT In BMW parlance, "short engine" is block and head with oil pan, front covers and valve cover and oil filter housing where applicable. - ----------------------------------------------------- BMW Special Tool Rentals Pay per incident tech support - ----------------------------------------------------- Brett Anderson KMS (440) 338 1650 www.koalamotorsport.com OSS committee member - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Does a BMW short block, unlike a U.S. counterpart, include the head(s)? > Or does "short engine" not equate to "short block"? > > Just curious. > > Chris B. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:40:33 -0800 From: "JSN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E34>Looking at E34 touring... try www.bmwe34.net for 5 series info. the e34 section of www.bimmer.info has some knowledgeable touring owners who may be able to help with your sunroof questions. Jeff 90 535i - ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:25 PM Subject: [uuc] <E34>Looking at E34 touring... > My neighbor is looking at an E34 525iT, and I was wondering what common maladies the car has. Car > has 130k mi and has been garaged. I'm very familiar with the M50 powerplant and its issues (as is > my meighbor who owns a 1995 E36M. I understand the transmission can be a bit problematic. Can it > be replaced with a 5 speed if it dies? Also I understand the Sunroof can be an expensive mess. Any > other problem areas? > > What are the better E34 sites out there? This group tends to be E36 centric (though that may just be > my internal filter). > > Thanks in advance, > > Marc Plante > E36 325i, 211k > Vienna, VA > > Marc Plante > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 16:45:05 -0600 From: "Malcolm Reitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] <E34>Looking at E34 touring... Marc, Here are a couple of good E34 links: www.530i.org www.bmwe34.net Malcolm '88 M5 '98 328i - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 4:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] <E34>Looking at E34 touring... My neighbor is looking at an E34 525iT, and I was wondering what common maladies the car has. Car has 130k mi and has been garaged. I'm very familiar with the M50 powerplant and its issues (as is my meighbor who owns a 1995 E36M. I understand the transmission can be a bit problematic. Can it be replaced with a 5 speed if it dies? Also I understand the Sunroof can be an expensive mess. Any other problem areas? What are the better E34 sites out there? This group tends to be E36 centric (though that may just be my internal filter). Thanks in advance, Marc Plante E36 325i, 211k Vienna, VA Marc Plante [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:27:58 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] WA state to regulate racing schools (part 2) It looks to me like the statute as written is intended to regulate professional racing schools like Bondurant, Derek Daly, (or for the drag race-inclined Frank Hawley or Roy Hill) etc. that are geared towards receiving a competition license. That said, if a well-intentioned public official were to decide it should apply to all on-track events it wouldn't be the first time the government decided we aren't capable of making our own decisions about what risks we choose to take. Bear in mind that most laws are written with the (not entirely misguided) assumption that 95% of people are too stupid to be allowed to decide for themselves what to eat for breakfast. Without exception, the people writing these laws believe that they're among the 5%. In my experience, the vast majority are mistaken in that impression. Brian Daley - -------Original Message------- From: Vic Maslanka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 03/04/03 03:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] WA state to regulate racing schools (part 2) > > I suppose it all will depend on the legal definition of "race car driving school." It doesn't seem to regulate a "high performance street car driving school." Vic Maslanka - --- KMS - Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does that mean no more drivers schools in WA state without a roll > cage? > > Not sure about some of those sanctioning bodies listed, but those > that I do > recognize all require roll cages. > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more <a target=_blank href="http://taxes.yahoo.com/";>http://taxes.yahoo.com/</a> > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:32:09 -0000 From: "Andrew Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Lightnings and other fast Fords John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: "Now if Ford would only bother to build *cars* with bits of similar capability. Oh wait, they do. They get real close in Australia (http://www.fordperformancevehicles.com.au) but they won't send them to the US." They would need to build them in LHD for the US market, something I don't think the Australian Ford plant is capable of. OT perhaps, but Ford of Europe builds some cracking cars, some of which have near-iconic status in the UK, and all of which are about 1/4 the size of a Lightning :). The Focus RS is the latest - very hard work to drive, but extremely fast around a track when it's done properly (8 m 25 s round the 'Ring). It's a parts-bin special: Quaife diff, Brembo brakes, AP Racing clutch, Sachs Race Engineering suspension, OZ, Sparco, Garrett, you name it. On this side of the pond I think the UK is alone in having a soft spot for small, fast Fords. Andy T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:38:50 -0600 From: "Ben White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] WA state to regulate racing schools (part 2) Brian Daley wrote in part. "Brian Daley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <snip> Bear in mind that most laws are written with the (not entirely misguided) assumption that 95% of people are too stupid to be allowed to decide for themselves what to eat for breakfast. > ______________________________________ Not to mention that such laws are in violation of the U S Constitution which, sadly, has been largely ignored since the rein of FDR. Ben White/ Ocean Springs, MS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:56:15 -0600 From: "Ben White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Lightnings and other fast Fords <Andrew wrote in part> They would need to build them in LHD for the US market, something I don't think the Australian Ford plant is capable of.> _______________ I may be wrong but I think that Andrew might be mistaken. As I recall, the Mercury Capri (the fwd version based on Mazda 323 architecture) was built in Oz by Ford for the North American market. The biggest hurdle is the structural mods necessary to Federalize the car or truck. To date, though international meetings are held frequently at taxpayer expense, the auto manufacturing countries have not come to agreement on safety and emission standards. Having said this, in the larger scheme of things most of the various countries' standards achieve almost exactly the same end results re: safety and emissions. The problem is and has been 'turf'. It would make entirely too much sense to adopt universal standards and eliminate redundant jobs across the globe. Ben White/Ocean Springs, MS ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6170 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com |__________________________________________
