[uucdigest] Wednesday, March 5 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6176
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] Autocrossing Helmet Recommendations [uuc] <E28> will 17" wheels found a set Re: [uuc] Re: Lightnings and other fast Fords Re: [uuc] Re: Lightnings and other fast Fords Re: [uuc] Autocrossing Helmet Recommendations [uuc] WA state to regulate racing schools Re: [uuc] Resetting Adaptive Codes on OBDII Re: [uuc] Re: Lightnings and other fast Fords Re: [uuc] Re: Lightnings and other fast Fords Re: [uuc] BMWs Getting Too Complicated (was <E34> Problem with a/c) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 12:39:08 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Autocrossing Helmet Recommendations Gaudio, Stefano at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > for autoXing if you do not want to spend a lot of $$$ you can go for > an M2000 snell certified helmet. > I believe that the only difference between M2000 and SA2000 is the > fire-retardant material that the SA helmets have. That's half the difference. The other half is that M helmets are rated for one major impact (cycle rider's head hitting the ground) and SA helmets are rated for multiple major impacts (head bouncing off roll cage bars and stuff inside rolling car). - - Mark - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:53:03 -0500 From: "Ron J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E28> will 17" wheels found a set Seems I found a set of wheels including tires for $1000 Canadian (approx 700 USD) They are TSW wheels, all aluminum.. nice and light.. One piece, with Dunlop SP Sport 225 45ZR17 tires mounted on them. The rims are new, and the tires only have about 300 miles on them. I think its a deal. The rim style is TSW Blade. Nice wheel. They are brand new, so the holes and the machining has to be done tommorrow, and I should have them on the car by Friday Anyone ever run these before? Cheers Ron J 85 535i 73 911s 2.7 - ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:38 PM Subject: Re: <E28> will 17" wheels from an 89 5 series fit? > Ron, the 15" wheels that came standard on the early E32 7 series and E34 5 > series (same wheels) fit find on the E28. I used a set of 15x7 E32 wheels > for autocrossing on my E28 535i. The offset wasn't quite right, but 225s > still fit fine. > > So it seems logical that the 17 inchers from the same chassis would fit > too. But I don't know if there are width or offset issues. You are right > about the bolt pattern and hub centricity. > > Scott > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:18:47 -0500 > From: "Ron J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] <E28> will 17" wheels from an 89 5 series fit? > > Hi All, > > Doing some wheel shopping for the car, and I was wondering if the 17" > factory wheels off an 89 or newer 5 series will fit my car (85 535i) the > bolt pattern should be the same as well as the centric hub, as far as I > know. > > On top of that, does anyone have a deal on a nice set of wheels and tires > near Toronto Canada? preferably 17" to fit my car of course. > > Cheers > Ron J > 85 535i > 73 911s 2.7 > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 12:54:09 -0800 From: John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Lightnings and other fast Fords >> Low compression and less weak cam profiles/timing give it good fuel >> economy and emissions, then the supercharger adds back the lost power. And a monstrous torque curve. > after the 2001 Cobra power rating debacle I also wonder whether they > haven't under-rated the engine to cover themselves. I'm sure that lots > of owners have dyno'd their cars, I guess I could also go out & meet some > of the people in the dyno lab here at the plant & ask them :-) The blower 4.6 is definitely under-rated, in dyno tests it's making close to its crank HP rating at the wheels (about 40HP more than an E39 M5 S62, for instance.) > it's a hand built engine, but somehow I don't think we put quite the same > amount of money into the components as BMW does on say the M5's motor, > which is similar size & power... The Ford engine gets an iron block and some H-beam rods which were apparently fairly well necessary to keeping it together. It doesn't get variable cam timing or the entertaining intake plumbing of the M5's S62. It gets an Eaton sledgehammer instead. John. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 16:01:01 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Lightnings and other fast Fords That Aston Martin V-12 is 2 Taurus engines put together. Gary Derian > I suspect that there are moves going on now to put the Jag 4.2l V8 into > the RR for the middle models & some sort of Aston Martin-based > V12 being figured for the top of the range ones. the only thing we ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 16:04:05 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Autocrossing Helmet Recommendations Mark Dadgar wrote: > That's half the difference. The other half is that M helmets are rated for > one major impact (cycle rider's head hitting the ground) and SA helmets are > rated for multiple major impacts (head bouncing off roll cage bars and stuff > inside rolling car). however, a previous thread pointed out the fact that some manufacturers helmets are identical in their impact resistance - in other words they pass _both_ tests - and actually only differ in the material of the liner. I guess materials technology has moved along far enough that there isn't any financial/complexity advantage for the manufacturers to have unique shell constructions any more, which they may have had in the past. IIRC the specific helmet cited - with an email from the company and/or a company web site reference - was from Simpson or another US manufacturer. Ben M95-rated Shoei, needs to try on some SA-rated helmets this season so I can get one for next season. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 16:09:23 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] WA state to regulate racing schools Marco said > > Tragic Agreed, but you can't regulate away every possible accident or scenario where someone might get hurt. I fear that a situation like this Ashley Bergman gets a lot of attention until some legislator notices and know you have to deal with silly regulations with the right intention but the wrong means or method. My sister who was just two years older than me was killed in a car accident when she was seventeen. She was every bit revered as any girl I have ever known and was certainly a tragic loss for my family and the community. Regards, Rich - rides motorcycles too much to my mother's chagrin 95 M3 90 325is ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 16:08:25 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Resetting Adaptive Codes on OBDII Adaptive values are not stored in non volitile memory. - ----------------------------------------------------- BMW Special Tool Rentals Pay per incident tech support - ----------------------------------------------------- Brett Anderson KMS (440) 338 1650 www.koalamotorsport.com OSS committee member - ----- Original Message ----- From: "jkerouac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.peakeresearch.com/fcxtech.shtml > > Item 6. states to pull the battery with the emergency flasher going. On > the phone, they also said to try a test light between the positive cable > and ground. Peake says that will ground any remaining charge in the ECU > that could be maintaining memory contents. But I thought the OBDII ECU > uses non-volatile memory, so even draining its residual capacitor > charges should not work. > > Has anyone tried this? and does it work? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 16:17:05 -0500 From: "mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Lightnings and other fast Fords uh oh, does that mean piece of shit squared? Mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Lightnings and other fast Fords > That Aston Martin V-12 is 2 Taurus engines put together. > Gary Derian > > > I suspect that there are moves going on now to put the Jag 4.2l V8 into > > the RR for the middle models & some sort of Aston Martin-based > > V12 being figured for the top of the range ones. the only thing we > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 13:18:32 -0800 From: John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Lightnings and other fast Fords > Give me a 5.4L DOHC making 388 hp and 383 ft-lb naturally aspirated with > double-wishbone front, IRS, four-piston Brembos front and rear, and I > don't care what the interior quality and NVH are! On one hand, my E39 M5 does quite well on both oomph and NVH. On the other, were I a new car buyer, I could see being willing to trade some material quality for better brakes and a $20K lower pricetag. If one looks at where Cadillac is going with the V-series CTS, that's in fact about where they're likely to end up - they're at least going in the right direction with all the mechanicals, but one has to be willing to swallow that shape... The big Aussie sedans, in my experience, have tremendously good seats - better, on average, than BMW in terms of accommodating my 6'1", 200lb personage. I would not, however, compromise too much on NVH. Road cars, particularly big sedans, should be reasonably comfortable. John. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:18:53 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] BMWs Getting Too Complicated (was <E34> Problem with a/c) "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > <rant on> > This is what is wrong with the newer BMWs. (One thing anyway.) OK, luddite, lets have some fun with your post ;-) > >"Brant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Without shutting the engine > >off, they got the car onto their computer and discovered that they could > >not "see" the a/c control computer. After a shutdown and restart, the > >fault corrected itself and they could "see" the computer. They replaced > >the computer and the problem has not recurred. > > <snip> > >Brant > > Why does a car need a computer to control the AC? What is wrong with the > old systems? Old systems did not support climate control. When it got too hot, you cranked the temp dial down. Or push the AC button. Too cold? Crank it up. If you want climate control, the above process has to be automated. Thus the need for an HVAC computer. Sadly, that introduces inevitable the long term reliability issues. FWIW, my '95 E36 has the first generation climate control with rotary temp dials and driver controlled fan speed and air flow direction flaps. I much prefer that to my old E30's crank up down temp dial approach. No more adjusting the HVAC depending on how the sun hits your car or how slowly the coolant is warming up. My wife's '98 E36 has the fully integrated digital climate control. That baby automatically adjusts the air flow speed and direction depending on your desired settings and available coolant temperature. If it's too cold outside, it keeps the air flow to the minimum (zero to the face) until the coolant warms up. Than it ramps up as the coolant warms up. Once the cabin is brought to the desired temp settings, it ramps back down. Very slick. Unfortunately, that $300 digital HVAC control is yet another thing that can and does frequently go bad. > One or two switches, a thermostat, a bunch of plumbing, a few mechanical > parts and some refrigerant was sufficient. Now a computer fails and no > one can figure it out without another computer to test the fauty computer. An experienced tech would probably tell you what's wrong with either E30 or E36+ HVAC by just looking at it. Alas, those are getting very rare at the dealership. > I'm all in favor of tech advances, I just don't see the point. The point is climate control. And yes, it is more complex and inherently less reliable. $300 for the HVAC controller and god know how much for all flap motors. Wonderful when it works, mucho dinero when it doesn't. > I like my simple, albiet somewhat ancient, E30. Three levers. Each one > controls the air going to one of three sets of vents. Set each for as > much or as little as you want. Two AC switches - one for on/off, one > for recirc. One temp knob. One fan speed knob with four settings. > That's it. No computer, none needed. I'm perfectly happy with it. Scott, You are forgetting to point out that the recirculation flap is a). flaky and electrically operated; b). never seals properly. There are only 4 speed settings (not enough, little too much, way too much, unbearably noisy). In the summer the car is always either too hot or too warm requiring constant air flow/temp dial/AC on/off adjustments. Same in the winter. > What would a computer give me that I don't already have? Climate control. > Not happiness. Yeah baby, I'm all for typewriters as well! ;-) Seriously, I would agree that computers introduce complexity and reduce reliability. But they also make life so much more fun. On my car they only thing I'm still futzing with is the air flow selector to keep the cold air from my hands until the engine warms up. Almost perfect. I can't remember the last time I futzed with the HVAC settings on my wife's car. It's always perfect. IMHO, alex f ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6176 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com |__________________________________________
