[uucdigest]         Thursday, March 20 2003         Volume 03 : Number 6233



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] Euro Delivery
       Re: [uuc] Re: Suspension Question
       [uuc] Re: Euro Delivery
       [uuc] Re: BMW CPO Question
       Re: [uuc] Brake Pressure
       Re: [uuc] Re: Keyless entry connection?
       Re: [uuc] Re: Euro Delivery
       [uuc] Re: Euro Delivery, Almost Time, Last minute questions
       [uuc] Re: Euro Delivery

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:37:50 -0600
From: "Harmon Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Euro Delivery

On my June '98 ED I had no problem using my Shell/Chase
Bank VISA credit card at Shell and other brand stations.
Premium prices then averaged $4.50/gallon.
Also - I quit using travelers' checks in Europe years ago.  My
local bank ATM card worked beautifully for cash, and VISA
was accepted in many places.  The conversion  from DM/
US$ rates were very good.  First hit for the ATM was in the Munich
airport just after clearing customs.
Harmon Fischer
'98 M3F Dakar II
'02 MINI Liquid Yaller

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:50:44 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Suspension Question

On the E34, the bottom of the strut insert is enclosed in the strut housing.
A cad colored disk is at the bottom end.  The whole disk can be pulled off
the outermost tube to reveal the bump stop inside.  A razor blade makes
quick work of the bump stop.

Other models may have a different design.

Gary Derian


> How?  the E-36 struts do not have the nut on the bottom to remove the
> cylinder like the M3 strut?
>
> Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Suspension Question
>
>
> > I have disassembled and cut bump stops on E34 Bilsteins.  Its not hard,
> but
> > you must be brave.
> > Gary Derian
> >
> > > I think on the non M E-36 Bilsteins or atleast the ones I have seen,
you
> > > cant even take them apart to trim the bumpstop, so it must not be a
> > problem.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > > I've seen this bump stop business mentioned a few times, but I've
> never
> > > > been clear on whether or not it applies to my '94 E36 (non-M3).  I
got
> > > > the H&R/Bilstein combo as a package from Turner, and I guess I
assumed
> > > > it was good to go as nothing was mentioned by them.  Should I have
> > > > performed this trimming operation?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Chris B.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil Maller
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:45 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: [uuc] Re: Suspension Question
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > on 3/20/03 10:44 AM, "Richard  Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I am in the process of upgrading the suspension on my 95
> > > > > M3, decided to go
> > > > > > with Bilsteins & H&R springs.  Have the same setup on my
> > > > > E34 525 and 2002,
> > > > > > been very happy with the results.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you go with Bilsteins and lowered springs you need to trim
> > > > > their internal
> > > > > bump stops. See:
> > > > >
www.unofficialbmw.com/e36/suspension/e36_trim_bilstein_bumpstop.html
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 16:02:02 -0800
From: Knute Ream <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Euro Delivery

One more thing to remember:   Switzerland does not use Euros, so if your 
route takes you down that way, and you're staying in a small town and need 
some spending money and it's Sunday and there aren't any exchanges open, 
then you're kinda out of luck if all you have is Euros.  Ask me how I 
know!  ;-)

  (on my eurodelivery trip last spring I looped down through Austria, 
across Switzerland, and up through Germany via Strasbourg and through the 
Black Forest up to the Nurburgring and then back down to Munich)

On the other hand, ATM machines are all over the place, and happily 
dispense local currency at a very decent exchange rate-  often much better 
than you would get at a booth exchange with a teller.

Have a great trip!

- -Knute

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 16:22:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Ted Pao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: BMW CPO Question

> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:26:36 -0600
> From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [uuc] BMW CPO Question
> 
> The lease will be up on my 2000 330i this fall. I love the car and have
> less than 21k on it right now and I am thinking about keeping it. My purchase
> at end of lease price is well below the current market value (we will have
> to see how it stacks up later in the year).
> 
> My idea is to CPO the car to get the extra warranty. Plus as a BMWCCA member
> I can get $500 of the CPO "fee" back as a reward.
> 
> Questions:
> 
> Do I have to return the car to the selling dealer at the end of the lease?
> I got mine from Taylor BMW in Augusta (and got a great deal) but see no
> need to drive it back there for the turn in or the CPO.
> 

No you don't have to. You'll need to shop around to see who will give you the
best deal. Everything is negotiable, even your residual value printed on your
lease contract. If the wholesale market value is much lower than your residual
in the contract, you can negotiate for the wholesale market value. You'll have
to find a dealer that is willing to work with you. If you are in Los Angeles, I
can point you to a dealer.

> I assume others have done this before - I have heard about it quite a bit.
> The cost should be around $1000 + any parts/labor needed to make my car pass?
> 
About $1200 is the ball park figure. For that, my dealer included the brake
pads job although the car really didn't need one.

> Will BMW give me a reward for buying a CPO car I already lease?

Yes, they will. I've got my $1500 rebate when I leased it and another $500 when
I purchased it. I don't know how true this is, but the sale manager told me BMW
does not like a leasee buy the same car back through CPO.

> On a related note, it APPEARS that if you lease your new or used BMW via
> anyone other than BMW financial services you are disqualified from the
> reward! "Vehicles purchased or leased through a 3rd party (i.e. brokers,
> lease
> companies, etc.) do not qualify."

Don't know anything about that, but BMW Financial will probably give you better
rate than anyone else. A while back, a CPO interest rate was down to 1.9%. You
can't get that from any banks, credit unions, or savings.

Lastly, YMMV.

Ted


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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:41:46 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] Brake Pressure

42?

Martin Bullen
'95 M3
'97 Z3 2.8
But no Ford Prefect....

In a message dated 3/20/03 9:17:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:44:04 -0500
>From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [uuc] Brake Pressure
>
>Answers are easy.  Asking the right question is the hard part.
>Gary Derian
>
>> Oops, that will teach me not to read ahead!  Of course Gary knew the
>answer.
>>
>> - Rob

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:53:44 -0500
From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Keyless entry connection?

I went through this with my wife's '96 328i, there is a short harness in 
the kit that mates with one of a group of black receptacles that slide 
onto a gang bracket under the heater. I recall it clearly since I had to 
move the same gang bracket to withdraw the filter from the cabin air 
filter assembly.

I don't know why my file for this car doesn't contain the installation 
instructions (for it had a line drawing I could scan), but the outside 
of the kit's box clearly indicated that the wiring harness was a part of 
the kit.

The hard part for me installing this was finding the single black lead 
that lead to the horn location under the hood. It was so concealed, I 
nearly had to dismantle the wiring bundle from the underside of the dash 
to find it.

Ed

KMS - Brett Anderson wrote:

>Your car should be pre wired. All E36 were pre wired except the very first
>ones.
>
>Do you have a good photo of the area? Email it to me directly.
>
>
>
>-----------------------------------------------------
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>Pay per incident tech support
>-----------------------------------------------------
>Brett Anderson
>KMS
>(440) 338 1650
>www.koalamotorsport.com
>
>OSS committee member
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  
>
>>I literally took apart all of the wiring and harness connectors in the space
>>    
>>
>behind the glove box to gain access to the very back part of the area closest
>to the fire wall. Still no green or black BMW OEM prewired harness to connect
>my BMW keyless remote entry module. I literally pulled the wiring harness for
>the windows, locks, and virtually every thing in my way to gain access, and
>still no remote harness connector to be found. This is the first BMW that says
>it's prewired and not have any evidence that it ever had one. Was that an
>option on a '97 328iS? I've always found them easily in the previous
>installations of OEM BMW keyless remote entry units. Is there any possibility
>that MY car doesn't have a prewired connector as stated? Should I take it to
>the dealer w/ the glove box out and let them try to find it? I'm over trying
>to find it.
>
>
>
>  
>

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:29:43 -0500
From: "Woody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Euro Delivery

> At 11:55 PM 3/18/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >1.  Is the free breakfast at the delivery center worth it?

When I took delivery of my 325is in April of 1987 my free Delivery Center
breakfast was wurst and bier, naturally - when in Munchen. . . .

My wait for the new car stretched into several hours however.  They finally
told me they had lost the keys and a new set needed to be made.

A few years later I was cleaning the windshield and noticed something
sticking out of the defroster vent.  After much work with some needle-nose
pliers, I pulled out a complete set of keys!

At that time they delivered the car without a kat converter because of the
possibility the purchaser might want to drive to an area of Europe where
lead-free wasn't available.  The kat, US radio and US '87 eye esse airdam
were fitted sometime before I took delivery at the US dealership.
Woody Hair

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:52:50 -0800
From: John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Euro Delivery, Almost Time, Last minute questions

> It's not how fast you go, it's how fast the engine turns, how much
> you vary your speed, and how often you let the engine decelerate to
> seat the rings.

These days I don't think *engine* break-in is even the controlling factor - 
it's the transmission and final-drive gears that need to wear in.

John.

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:07:40 -0800
From: John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Euro Delivery

> Make sure you give the car a good going over when you drop it off to
> shipping back to the states. Find any dings, dents, scrapes or other
> problems - point them out and have it fixed at the VPC when it arrives in
> the states.

When we did Euro Delivery on the M5 in mid-2000, we dropped it off in 
Frankfurt with a very thick coat of bugs and basically in the kind of 
condition your typical rentacar might be in when returned.

By way of background, I'd ordered the car from a dealer 2000 miles from 
home, said dealer managed to do something many folks considered impossible 
- - getting my local dealer in the Bay Area to do a 'courtesy delivery' on 
the car.

The delivery was perhaps a courtesy to the selling dealer, the local 
dealer's courtesy to the-customer-that-got-away was quite thin - when the 
car was delivered, it had the complete crust of deutscher bugs on it, the 
same dirt on the rugs, all the tow-hook covers were out, etc.

Interestingly enough, the salesman who gruffly handed me the keys and 
pointed us to the car was the same individual who'd sold us our 540i back 
in '98, and who, when I'd inquired about an M5 in late '99, told me he had 
no idea when I might see an M5 at MSRP but it'd be a very long time (I 
ordered the car at MSRP from the aforementioned distant dealer in December 
'99.)  If my wife has any say in the situation he won't be selling us 
another car again, ever.

The first advantage of receiving your car in the same unappealing state you 
left it, of course, is that had it been damaged in shipping it's unlikely 
the VPC would have been able to reproduce the exact pattern of splattered 
insect cellulose and Bavarian grime following a repair.  Perhaps I'm 
underestimating them, they may well have cans of 'Belgian road guck' and 
'South German bugs' for their undercoating gun, but I doubt it.

The second advantage is that your first ownership experience is that of 
taking the thing home, throwing all the floor mats out in the driveway, and 
washing and vacuuming the thing top-to-bottom yourself.  Call it bonding.

John.

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