[uucdigest] Wednesday, March 26 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6246
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: RE: [uuc] Now Motronic adaptability (and some WOBing) RE: [uuc] *WOB* Eta power vs running on foot RE: [uuc] Now Motronic adaptability (and some WOBing) RE: [uuc] *WOB* Eta power vs running on foot Re: [uuc] *WOB* Eta power vs running on foot Re: [uuc] *WOB* Eta power vs running on foot [uuc] FOR SALE: 2000 323I MOTOR/TRANS/WIRING HARNESS/ECU with (only) 18,000 miles [uuc] Re: <E36><Euro M3> Exhaust noise [uuc] ETA VS> 535i(86) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:22:31 -0500 From: "RAGS 535" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Now Motronic adaptability (and some WOBing) >From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [uuc] Now Motronic adaptability (and some WOBing) >Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:13:56 -0500 > >---- Original Message ---- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [uuc] Now Motronic adaptability (and some WOBing) > > >Okay Rob, so how much running will it need? Are the > >few minutes between dyno runs enough time to allow a > >new Basic Motronic ECU to adapt? If it's plenty of > >time, then chip comparisons we shall make! (not quite > >Yoda, but getting there) > >Damned if I can remember - it's been a few years since I pulled an >E28 DME... although I might again soon. > > > >Will ya settle for a 6500 RPM eta engine with no > >modifications but an i cam, valve springs, and 3 extra > >holes in the head? : -) > >Holes in the head? > ><Pete Puma> > >Ooh-ohh, tea gives me a headache! > ></Pete Puma> > >- Rob > ROB; FOR SOME REASON,YOU AND bRAD C. KEEP DROPPING INTO MY INBOX LATE AT NITE......bob G> _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:34:14 -0800 (PST) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] *WOB* Eta power vs running on foot Rob, You wouldn't happen to have driven a 528e before, would you? ; -) The main problem I noticed the other night when I did the acceleration tests was that I had to do so much freaking SHIFTING! I guess that's why they call me Shifty : -) It's not like I really MINDED doing all that shifting. I mean, I spent more than what the car's worth in stock form just to be able to shift! The problem was that I had to shift into 3rd before hitting 60! Needless to say, this severely lengthened my 5 - 60 time. . . to about 11 seconds, no sh*t!!! I guess that's the only time the original 2.93 diff pays off! However, with an extra 1,000 RPMs to play with in each gear, this may be just enough to hit 60 in 2nd. Only time (or the proper calculations, which I'm too lazy to do right now) will tell!! Brad - --- Rob Levinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've got to pipe up for The Braddler here - a 528e > with a 5-speed > (not to mention his stump-puller diff) will get out > of its own way. > Within the limited rpm range, there is a fair amount > of torque. > > Ask me how I know... ;-) > > - Rob __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:39:53 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Now Motronic adaptability (and some WOBing) - ---- Original Message ---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > ROB; FOR SOME REASON,YOU AND bRAD C. KEEP DROPPING INTO MY INBOX >LATE AT >NITE......bob G> We should drop into your keyboard and fix that CAPS LOCK key! ;-) Am I the only one that finds this humorous: >_________________________________________________________________ >STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail MSN advertises no spam by spamming your outgoing e-mail. Hmmm... - - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:49:24 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] *WOB* Eta power vs running on foot - ---- Original Message ---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Rob, >You wouldn't happen to have driven a 528e before, >would you? ; -) Drove an automatic one afternoon about 4 years ago. Drove a 5-speed about 5 hours ago. >The main problem I noticed the other night when I did >the acceleration tests was that I had to do so much >freaking SHIFTING! I guess that's why they call me >Shifty : -) Optimum acceleration in most cars for the 0-60 run is when you hit 60mph in 2nd gear just short of your redline. Your car is definitely under-ratio'd at this point, but another 1K rpm will help. >Needless to say, this severely lengthened my 5 - 60 >time. . . to about 11 seconds, no sh*t!!! That long, huh? Gotta hook up the G-Tec Dilletante 2000 and check some numbers. - - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 01:03:47 -0500 From: "Michael McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] *WOB* Eta power vs running on foot - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Couvillon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 12:34 AM Subject: RE: [uuc] *WOB* Eta power vs running on foot > Rob, > > You wouldn't happen to have driven a 528e before, > would you? ; -) > > The main problem I noticed the other night when I did > the acceleration tests was that I had to do so much > freaking SHIFTING! I guess that's why they call me > Shifty : -) > > It's not like I really MINDED doing all that shifting. > I mean, I spent more than what the car's worth in > stock form just to be able to shift! The problem was > that I had to shift into 3rd before hitting 60! > Needless to say, this severely lengthened my 5 - 60 > time. . . to about 11 seconds, no sh*t!!! > sounds like you need to start making the runs in 4th or 3rd. go from ~1000rpm in 3rd to redline in 3rd and time it. have a passenger with a stopwatch and say *ready, set...* then stomp at the same time they hit start on the stop watch. have them click it again when the engine bounces off the rev limiter. That'll give a really good *across the board* comparaison. you could also do 1000-3000 and 3000-6000, etc. (this also assumes the redlines are the same for each chip)... but the 1k to redline one is one of the easier ones to duplicate. you'll probably need a decent amount of road with the eta though. ;oP its ~15mph to ~90mph in the 525 with stock gearing. > I guess that's the only time the original 2.93 diff > pays off! However, with an extra 1,000 RPMs to play > with in each gear, this may be just enough to hit 60 > in 2nd. > > Only time (or the proper calculations, which I'm too > lazy to do right now) will tell!! > I'm too lazy to look up the gear ratio info to do the math now too. and I'd give the ECU 50 miles to adapt after being reset. so that's, what, 20 - 30 minutes of driving? :o) - -Michael McCoy > Brad > > > --- Rob Levinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've got to pipe up for The Braddler here - a 528e > > with a 5-speed > > (not to mention his stump-puller diff) will get out > > of its own way. > > Within the limited rpm range, there is a fair amount > > of torque. > > > > Ask me how I know... ;-) > > > > - Rob > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! > http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:42:59 -0600 From: Sean Cordone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] *WOB* Eta power vs running on foot Ja, I had one. Good, bulletproof car. But it was always parked next to the '85 535... Besides, I heard Brad could run fast. --SC Rob Levinson wrote: >I've got to pipe up for The Braddler here - a 528e with a 5-speed >(not to mention his stump-puller diff) will get out of its own way. >Within the limited rpm range, there is a fair amount of torque. > >Ask me how I know... ;-) > >- Rob > >---- Original Message ---- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [uuc] *WOB* Eta power vs running on foot > > >>Hey now, it's not THAT slow! It won't be an e for >>long anyway! >> >>I hate all of you UUCers!!! ; -) >> >>Brad Couvillon >> >> >>--- Sean Cordone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>Isn't getting out and running the easiest way to go >>>faster if you've got >>>an 'e'? --SC >>>(sorry 'bout that, I had one too ;) >>> >>> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:45:55 -0800 From: "Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] FOR SALE: 2000 323I MOTOR/TRANS/WIRING HARNESS/ECU with (only) 18,000 miles The whole enchilada: 2000 323i (6/2000 production) Motor, Steptronic Transmission, Wiring Harness and ECU with (only) 18,000 miles. FIRST $4,400 TAKES IT! While I would prefer the buyer pick it all up, I will ship everything from here (Los Angeles) at a cost of $450. Chris http://www.inlacal.com/partspics 89 M3 01 X5 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:43:16 -0700 From: "S. Cooperman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: <E36><Euro M3> Exhaust noise My '98 M3 with 70K miles on it has cats with a significant rattle when I "tap" them with my fist. Is this considered a defect? Is it covered by either the emissions warranty or my CPO extended warranty policy? Thanks in advance for replies. Steve Cooperman Tucson, AZ Previous responses: Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:17:58 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Hsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: <E36><Euro M3> Exhaust noise Besides possible rear shock mount. My guess is the catalytic converter. A friend of mine just had to replace his cats on his pontiac. We figured it was a bad cat by reaching a foot under there and give it a light kick. We could actually feel the insides of it bouncing around. I kinda think it's unlikely you have this problem because your car seems too "young" ('98)for that. mike > >Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:54:26 -0800 (PST) > >From: David Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: [uuc] <E36><Euro M3> Exhaust noise > > > >All, > > > >Well, I'm stumped. I have a loud clunking in my > exhaust every time I > >hit a bump (which in between my house and work is > about every 10 ft). > >It sounds like it's coming from the middle of the > car, i.e. the cats. > >I've replaced all of the exhaust mounts and it's > now extremely well > >secured. There seems to be no way to reproduce the > sound with the car > >still. > > > >My first guess is broken catalysts. I plan to > remove the cats from the > >car this weekend. I really hope this isn't it...I > priced cats on a 98 > >M3 at a UK parts place...845 pounds (1240 euro)! > > > >What else might it be? It doesn't sound or feel > like suspension, and > >other than this noise the car is rock-solid. Any > ideas are greatly > >appreciated. > > > >Any one know of any used BMW parts places in > central France? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Dave Hall > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 02:58:53 -0500 From: "RAGS 535" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] ETA VS> 535i(86) Brad; Call me about my '86 535i 5 speed;the one you don't have to shift often I might end up with tim in N.J.'s 524TD.If so,I'll be selling a two owner only 100K 535i in very good shape for you to play with if so inclined.....RA/Bob G. >From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [uuc] *WOB* Eta power vs running on foot >Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:34:14 -0800 (PST) > >Rob, > >You wouldn't happen to have driven a 528e before, >would you? ; -) > >The main problem I noticed the other night when I did >the acceleration tests was that I had to do so much >freaking SHIFTING! I guess that's why they call me >Shifty : -) > >It's not like I really MINDED doing all that shifting. > I mean, I spent more than what the car's worth in >stock form just to be able to shift! The problem was >that I had to shift into 3rd before hitting 60! >Needless to say, this severely lengthened my 5 - 60 >time. . . to about 11 seconds, no sh*t!!! > >I guess that's the only time the original 2.93 diff >pays off! However, with an extra 1,000 RPMs to play >with in each gear, this may be just enough to hit 60 >in 2nd. > >Only time (or the proper calculations, which I'm too >lazy to do right now) will tell!! > >Brad > > >--- Rob Levinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've got to pipe up for The Braddler here - a 528e > > with a 5-speed > > (not to mention his stump-puller diff) will get out > > of its own way. > > Within the limited rpm range, there is a fair amount > > of torque. > > > > Ask me how I know... ;-) > > > > - Rob > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! >http://platinum.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? 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