[uucdigest]         Thursday, March 27 2003         Volume 03 : Number 6251



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] <E30> Good spark plug socket for M42?
       RE: [uuc] Need help, Phoenix, AZ  <no BMWC>
       [uuc] FOR SALE: OZ wheels & e30 ///M3 shell and parts
       [uuc] <E30> R&R Fusebox.
       Re: [uuc] Re: Now Motronic adaptability
       Re: [uuc] Re: Now Motronic adaptability
       Re: [uuc] <E30> Good spark plug socket for M42?
       Re: [uuc] Re:  [E36] street/track pads
       [uuc] WTB: e36 325i auto tranny '95
       RE: [uuc] JACKASSES AT THE CAR WASH
       [uuc] Bad lower control arm on e36
       Re: [uuc] JACKASSES AT THE CAR WASH
       [uuc] S52 longevity
       [uuc] Track Pads

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:32:25 -0500 (EST)
From: "Steve.Goldstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <E30> Good spark plug socket for M42?

The toolkit socket does a satisfactory job but I haven't
yet figured out how to get a torque wrench on it.  Does
anybody have any favorite sockets?

steve

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:03:56 -0800
From: "Brad Houser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Need help, Phoenix, AZ  <no BMWC>

Brett:

You should be able to have the airlines do the transfer of baggage for
you if you show them both tickets at checkin time. It's worth a call to
the airline to confirm. Phoenix Skyharbor airport has several terminals,
and it could be that a bus ride is required to get from one flight to
another, depending on the airlines.

Brad Houser



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KMS - 
> Brett Anderson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:54 AM
> To: UUC Digest
> Subject: [uuc] Need help, Phoenix, AZ <no BMWC>
> 
> 
> Anyone got some time to kill on Saturday 29 March.  That's 
> this coming Saturday if ya don't got a calendar......
> 
> I'm looking for someone to meet my mother at Phoenix Airport, 
> around noon, help her collect her bags and get her on another flight.
> 
> I'm not sure of the layout of Phoenix airport, but if I 
> remember, the baggage claim is outside the security check 
> points.  So I'd be looking for someone to meet her at the 
> baggage claim, carry her bags back up to ticketing and get 
> her organized for her next flight, which is only 1.5 hrs 
> after she arrives (assuming the incoming flight is on time).
> 
> Due to our plans for her visit, she is not on a "connecting" 
> flight through Phoenix, but ending one trip and beginning 
> another, so the bags won't carry through.
> 
> Any help appreciated. Flight details on request.
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:17:26 -0500
From: "T. Andrew Egan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] FOR SALE: OZ wheels & e30 ///M3 shell and parts

I wanted to share this with the group.  All items are being sold by my 
friend in Texas. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2408892704

Reserve is set at $850.  The wheels go for $400/each new, tires are
$200/each new.

- -e30 ///M3 shell and parts:

http://adambixler.com/e30m3/parts/

Andrew
'99 ///M3





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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:33:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <E30> R&R Fusebox.

Gruppe:

Has anyone R&R'd a fusebox?  It looks pretty tedious,
but the housing on mine is cracked and I'd like to
replace it, bringing the engine bay to where it could
be called 'good'.

Neil Deshpande

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:39:10 -0800
From: "JS Nord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Now Motronic adaptability

Doesn't the O2 sensor provide some (not real time) feedback on mixture?

Maybe someone can elaborate on how the O2 sensor reports to the ECU and it's
effects on mixture.

Jeff
90 535i (Motronic 1.3 just for the record)

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bolhuis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:31 PM
Subject: [uuc] Re: Now Motronic adaptability


> On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Brian Daley wrote:
>
> > That depends on how airflow is measured.  My knowledge of E30's is
> > extremely limited, but if the E30 has a mass airflow meter it
> > won't go lean.  The increased airflow will be measured and simply
> > result in selecting a higher cell on the fuel map.  If the E30
> > infers (rather than measures) air mass entering the engine based
> > on RPM, Load, Air temp, Barometric pressure, etc. then mods that
> > improve the volumetric efficiency will cause the engine to go lean
> > because it can't tell that more air is flowing.
>
>  Yeah, that last thing.  The e30 AFM is wide open above 3000RPM or so
> (at full throttle), and fuel is delivered solely on RPM input.  At
> full throttle operation in the top half of the RPM range, the
> motronic's only input is RPM.
>
> --
>  "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
>    -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro
>
>

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:08:35 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Now Motronic adaptability

The O2 sensor (aka EGO) can only tell if the mixture is rich or lean.  Not
by how much, just what side of the line you are on.  This is only useful for
making a 3 way catalyst work efficiently.

US cars since 1981 all have an EGO and 3 way cat.  Part throttle running is
kept within a very narrow range of stochiometric (neither rich nor lean) to
minimize emissions.  The EGO sensor provides real time feedback.

Full throttle must run to the rich side for maximum power and cylinder
cooling. The EGO sensor is not useful for this information.

Gary Derian


> Doesn't the O2 sensor provide some (not real time) feedback on mixture?
>
> Maybe someone can elaborate on how the O2 sensor reports to the ECU and
it's
> effects on mixture.
>
> Jeff
> 90 535i (Motronic 1.3 just for the record)

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:26:14 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> Good spark plug socket for M42?

Steve,
You don't need a torque wrench. You don't have the room to use it on the
6th cylinder anyway. Use you hand.
Get the spark plug in tight than give it another 30% turn to crush the
washer.
What is the official spark plug's torque? 18 ft/#s? Don't go guerilla
over-tightening those things. The worst thing that can happen if you under
tighten is that the spark plug will work itself loose.
If you are unsure, err on the side of under-tighting and check the plugs a
few days later.

alex f


"Steve.Goldstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The toolkit socket does a satisfactory job but I haven't
> yet figured out how to get a torque wrench on it.  Does
> anybody have any favorite sockets?

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:00:39 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re:  [E36] street/track pads

"M Kittock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>So, what about some of the other pad choices I've seen thrown around?
>Like the EBC Red, Hawk HP Plus, Carbotech P or P+;  these all seem to
>rated for street and track duty and priced reasonably for track capable
>pads.  Do these wear well?

Mark,
There is no such thing as a good track/street pad!
The operating temperature range of the two environments is just too
different.
Get a set of good street pad (stock or Hawk HPS/PF R4s if you want
light-dusting) and a set of good track pads (Hawk Blue/HT-10 or PF 93/97s
come to mind). Swap track pads when you get to the track and swap them back
out before you head home. About 30 minutes each time.

>I know Hawk warns of greater rotor wear - what about the
>others?

All track pads eat rotors before they reach operating temperature (they
never do on the street). Hawk Blue/HT-10, Hawk HPS (S is for the Street)
pads do not.

>I know Pagid Race pads can leave deposits on the rotor - what about
>these?

Performance Friction pads all leave deposits on the rotors. Different pads
within PF lineup use compatible compounds, so going from street to track PF
pads will be shudder free. Going outside the 'PF family' will cause brake
application shimmy until you lay/cut a layer of PF material on/from the
rotors.

>Any other choices I'm missing?

This is akin to asking other about their favorite motor oil ;-)

HTH,
alex f

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:09:33 -0500 (EST)
From: The UNIX Mighty! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] WTB: e36 325i auto tranny '95

Folks,
I finally managed to kill the tranny on the 4 dr LTW :-) dem supercharger
If you know anyone selling tranny for '95 325i (auto).. Please let me know


Thanks
Bikesh
'95 325iKBB 250k
BMW CCA# 135032

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:11:50 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [uuc] JACKASSES AT THE CAR WASH

"Andy Messer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> C'mon, Lee.  Don't you remember the commercials??
>
> Space-aged polymers used to make a once-a-year car wax - NuFinish!
> They even simulated 1 year's worth of car washes (52, IIRC) AND IT
> STILL BEADS!!!! You can even apply in direct sunlight.
>
> This is funny.  I just went to the nufinish website and they have
> an E46 on their home page.

FWIW, I had actually tried NuFunish on my ex-beater E30.
It did last longer than either Meguiers or P21S. That was perfect for a
daily driver with faded paint that only got washed/waxed 1-2 times a year.
I've heard unconfirmed reports that NuFinish scratches the paint. Even if
true, that's of little consequence to the paint on a daily driver/beater
car.

YMMV,
alex f

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:30:35 -0500
From: "Binder, Larry - Spine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Bad lower control arm on e36

I had my repair shop replace my lower control arm and bushing on my e36 318i
($210).  They told me that my car's shudder in the steering wheel was from
having mismatched tires on the front (tire place messed up and forgot to put
spare back in the trunk).  I replaced the spare with the correct matching
tire and I am still getting a shudder in my steering wheel from 40-50 mph,
also during braking.  Isn't this a  sign of a bad lower control arm?  Is it
possible that driving with one bad lower control arm caused the other side
to go bad?

Larry

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:30:52 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] JACKASSES AT THE CAR WASH

I've used NuFinish and I like it very much.  Goes on easy, lasts a long
time.  No scratches that I can tell.

Gary Derian


>
> "Andy Messer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > C'mon, Lee.  Don't you remember the commercials??
> >
> > Space-aged polymers used to make a once-a-year car wax - NuFinish!
> > They even simulated 1 year's worth of car washes (52, IIRC) AND IT
> > STILL BEADS!!!! You can even apply in direct sunlight.
> >
> > This is funny.  I just went to the nufinish website and they have
> > an E46 on their home page.
>
> FWIW, I had actually tried NuFunish on my ex-beater E30.
> It did last longer than either Meguiers or P21S. That was perfect for a
> daily driver with faded paint that only got washed/waxed 1-2 times a year.
> I've heard unconfirmed reports that NuFinish scratches the paint. Even if
> true, that's of little consequence to the paint on a daily driver/beater
> car.
>
> YMMV,
> alex f
>
>

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:34:51 -0800 (PST)
From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] S52 longevity

Gang,

My 1994 325is has 195,000 miles on it, and runs like a
top.  I'm in the market for a 97-99 M3 (white/black or
red/black manual coupe, if you know of one), and -
ruling out the obvious need for proper maintenance -
I'm curious if the S52 motor/drivetrain has proven its
high-mileage reliability.  I understand they're
relatively young, but has anyone racked up serious
miles on one yet that would share their experiences?

Thanks,

Neil

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:38:58 -0800
From: Steve Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Track Pads

Jack mentioned Carbotech pads in his excellent post about various 
brands, and said he had heard they perform similar to Porterfield R4. 
Jack has forgotten the discussion we had a while back.  Many of you will 
remember this story, but there are some new members that may like to 
hear it. I had a set of Carbotech Panthers on my E39 while running in 
the 'B' group at Laguna Seca a while back.  My fond memory of this 
frightening incident was getting on the brakes approaching the Andretti 
Hairpin at well over 100 mph, and the steering wheel almost shook out of 
my hands.  I thought all of my front wheel lugs had come loose. I pitted 
immediately to check things out, and the problem was obvious, 'pad poop' 
on the rotors.  The Carbotech pads had pretty much melted unevenly on 
the front rotors. For some strange reason, I had brought the stock pads 
with me to the track, so I swapped them back in.  My next run session 
was just fine with the stock pads.  IMHO, the Carbotech pads are not as 
good as the stock pads.  All of this data applies to my E39, and I have 
no experience with any other model.  As always, YMMV

Steve Albrecht

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