[uucdigest] Thursday, March 27 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6253
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Re: [uuc] RE: Motorcycle Question ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:30:17 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: <E30> Good spark plug socket for M42? Alex, Steve will have a very long and difficult search and probably never will find the 6th, let alone the 5th, cylinder on his engine. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA Never owned a car with an M42 engine but I've seen a few... P.S. I have a spark plug socket in my ratchet wrench set and use it all the time on my car's M20 plugs, even the 6th cylinder >Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:26:14 -0600 >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> Good spark plug socket for M42? > >Steve, >You don't need a torque wrench. You don't have the room to use it on the >6th cylinder anyway. Use you hand. >Get the spark plug in tight than give it another 30% turn to crush the >washer. >What is the official spark plug's torque? 18 ft/#s? Don't go guerilla >over-tightening those things. The worst thing that can happen if you under >tighten is that the spark plug will work itself loose. >If you are unsure, err on the side of under-tighting and check the plugs a >few days later. > >alex f > >"Steve.Goldstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The toolkit socket does a satisfactory job but I haven't >> yet figured out how to get a torque wrench on it. Does >> anybody have any favorite sockets? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:13:21 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: REL [uuc] Bad lower control arm on e36 Larry asked: >I had my repair shop replace my lower control arm and bushing on my e36 318i >($210). They told me that my car's shudder in the steering wheel was from >having mismatched tires on the front (tire place messed up and forgot to put >spare back in the trunk). I replaced the spare with the correct matching >tire and I am still getting a shudder in my steering wheel from 40-50 mph, >also during braking. Isn't this a sign of a bad lower control arm? Is it >possible that driving with one bad lower control arm caused the other side >to go bad? > >Larry Larry - if one was bad - so was the other one.. see: http://www.monmouth.com/~deilenberger/laws.htm Look at Law#8 - it applies. Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 FOT2.A [EMAIL PROTECTED] NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.njsbmwr.org/ Moderator - BMW E39 Enthusiasts: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwe39 "One should do the stuff that makes you smile" - Ulf Bertilsson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:44:21 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Now Motronic adaptability A normal EGO is good for disaster checking like this, but won't help you tune the fuel curve from 12.5:1 to 12.8:1. Gary Derian > > At full throttle, the EGO is still making a signal for the motronic > of course, but it is my understanding that the signal is ignored > completely. Can someone confirm that the motronic doesn't even peek > at the EGO output even a little, if only to make sure it's firmly in > rich territory? I suspect it does not, as I've seen my EGO output > fall out of the rich range at very high RPM (that is, until I upped > the fuel pressure a few PSI). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:40:03 -0800 (PST) From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Racepad wing Group, Does anyone happen to own one of the Racepad.com M3 LTW replica wings? I'd love to hear impressions of quality, fit, ease of install, etc. Thanks, Neil __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:48:15 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: Motorcycle Question The Fox man gets bit: >I have an opportunity to buy a 1-owner '94 Suzuki GSX 750 (6,000 mis) >from a guy at work. The bike looks pristine (he's anal about that), >has never been driven hard (he's a "meek" rider), and it's a sweet >ride (went out at lunch today). He wants $2800. Is that (a) a >bargain; (b) a fair price; (c) steep? http://www.mcnews.com/mcnews/articles/Used_Bikes_Guide2.pdf Looks like it's actually a GSX-R750, and worth about $3550. So it's kinda a bargain since Spring is approaching and prices go up in the eastern/northern US around now. >I haven't ridden for 20 years, but after beating my body up on those >ATVs at VIR, I had forgotton just how much fun driving with handle >bars can be. Pull the trigger or pass? Price is OK. I'd suggest you also consider a BMW - it's more in tune with older bodies.. and there are a lot to choose from (visit: http://www.ibmwr.org - look for the marketplace..) for around that kinda money. "K" bikes are notoriously long lived, and can present a great bargain for the buck.. lots of them running around with > 250k on the original engines - which have never been touched.. BMW's are typically longer lived than Japanese bikes.. partly due to the construction quality, partly due to parts availability for older bikes and lots due to the fanatics who ride them. 6,000 miles is just considered a good weeks riding for lots of BMW owners (I average 10k or so a year in NJ.. if we had decent weather...) I'd also suggest BMW's since it tends to attract a group of people who like to get together - all over the world and the country. There are events to get together every weekend from about now until the snow flies.. some close (within 500 miles) some a bit further off.. but all are fun. Lots of comradery - just like PF4, only bigger.. BIG suggestion - since you haven't ridden in 20 years - look around (not sure what state you're in) for a Motorcycle Safety Foundation course. You can take the beginners course and beat up their bikes, which in lots of states qualifies you for a motorcycle endorsement on your license.. and then when you have some miles on your bike, take the "Advanced Rider Course" (this is being replaced by a new course.. forget the name - but I think the new one sounds like an improvement). In 20 years - you get rusty, and most of the self-learned, learned from friends things you used to know are no longer true (you WON'T fall down if you use the front brake!.. etc..) - so a good grounding and refresher are in order. Then you can consider selling whatever car brought you here since it will get very little attention once the hook is REALLY sunk.. Oh - as far as pulling the trigger.. quote from a friend.. "Some people confuse breathing with living.." Think on it for a bit. >-Michael Fox Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 FOT2.A [EMAIL PROTECTED] NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.njsbmwr.org/ Moderator - BMW E39 Enthusiasts: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwe39 "One should do the stuff that makes you smile" - Ulf Bertilsson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:00:47 -0800 From: Steve Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Carbotech Pads Dave Kelley asks: There are several "Panther" compounds from Carbotech. Please specify which compound you are referring to? Hi Dave, when I bought the Panther compound pads, there was only one type. This was about two years ago I guess. Another thing I forgot to mention was that the front pads had turned into a crumbling shambles. After I reinstalled the stock pads at the track, the Carbotech pads went right into the nearest trash barrel. During the intervening two or so years, Larry may have made significant improvements to the compound. However, I am not personally willing to try them again and risk another 'moment' approaching a hairpin turn at warp speed and have the steering wheel shudder out of my hands. I am quite pleased and satisfied with the Porterfield R4 pads I bought from Jack, and will continue to use them for the foreseeable future. Steve Albrecht ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:13:20 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> Good spark plug socket for M42? "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex says > > > You don't need a torque wrench. You don't have the room to use it > > on the 6th cylinder anyway. Use you hand. > > Sure, there is plenty of room on my E30 M20 motor to use a torque > wrench if I want to. I would guess Steve has tons of room on his M42. Not to mention that M42 completely lacks cylinders 5 and 6 ;-) M50+ and can forget about tightening all plugs by a torque wrench. alex f ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:16:20 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: <E30> Good spark plug socket for M42? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Alex, Steve will have a very long and difficult search and probably > never will find the 6th, let alone the 5th, cylinder on his engine. Hmm, I wonder if he can make a warranty claim on the subject... Yeah, sure, rub it in. alex f (yet to own a < 6 cylinder bimmer) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:37:35 +0000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] K&N rant pointer? Can anybody provide a URL for JC's classic anti-K&N rant, with measurements of air flow and particulate passage of both clean and dust-loaded paper vs. oiled-gauze filters? - -- Bob Sutterfield '87 E30 325iS http://bmwe30.net #1129 DAS KAR '88 E28 535iS http://m535i.org #154 IHR FUNF '93 T4 EV Weekender BELUGA BMWCCA #169277 Rocky Mountain Chapter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:04:16 -0500 From: "mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] K&N rant pointer? I can give ya my finger test, which might not be any help at all, lol K&N filter, inlet pipe is dusty/dirty with fine particles IFG, supposed super K&N replacement, inlet pipe is dusty/dirty with fine particles Stock airbox, K&N filter, inlet pipe is dirty with fine particles Stock airbox, stock filter, inlet pipe is super clean after thousands of miles Go figure Mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: [uuc] K&N rant pointer? > Can anybody provide a URL for JC's classic anti-K&N rant, > with measurements of air flow and particulate passage of > both clean and dust-loaded paper vs. oiled-gauze filters? > -- > Bob Sutterfield > '87 E30 325iS http://bmwe30.net #1129 DAS KAR > '88 E28 535iS http://m535i.org #154 IHR FUNF > '93 T4 EV Weekender BELUGA > BMWCCA #169277 Rocky Mountain Chapter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 16:57:39 -0500 From: "Chris Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] <E30> Good spark plug socket for M42? I tighten all 6 plugs on my M50 with a torque wrench, no problem... Chris B. Standard plug socket and standard Husky (cheapo) torque wrench. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:13 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> Good spark plug socket for M42? > > > > "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alex says > > > > You don't need a torque wrench. You don't have the room to use it > > > on the 6th cylinder anyway. Use you hand. > > > > Sure, there is plenty of room on my E30 M20 motor to use a torque > > wrench if I want to. I would guess Steve has tons of room > on his M42. > > Not to mention that M42 completely lacks cylinders 5 and 6 ;-) > M50+ and can forget about tightening all plugs by a torque wrench. > > alex f > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 16:23:04 -0600 From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: Motorcycle Question At 03:48 PM 03/27/2003 -0500, Don Eilenberger wrote: >The Fox man gets bit: > >>I have an opportunity to buy a 1-owner '94 Suzuki GSX 750 (6,000 mis) >>from a guy at work. The bike looks pristine (he's anal about that), >>has never been driven hard (he's a "meek" rider), and it's a sweet >>ride (went out at lunch today). He wants $2800. Is that (a) a >>bargain; (b) a fair price; (c) steep? > >http://www.mcnews.com/mcnews/articles/Used_Bikes_Guide2.pdf > >Looks like it's actually a GSX-R750, and worth about $3550. So >it's kinda a bargain since Spring is approaching and prices go >up in the eastern/northern US around now. KBB shows: "1994 Suzuki GSX-R750WR" with $4555 retail, $3135 trace "1994 Suzuki GSX750FR Katana" with $3375 retail, $2300 trade So if he has the "Katana" then that is a just OK price, "WR" is worth a good bit more. In this case, since you know the guy that owns and rode it then I would say it is worth more than "book" (you have to take KBB prices with a huge grain of salt anyway). >>I haven't ridden for 20 years, but after beating my body up on those >>ATVs at VIR, I had forgotton just how much fun driving with handle >>bars can be. Pull the trigger or pass? > >Price is OK. I'd suggest you also consider a BMW - it's more >in tune with older bodies.. and there are a lot to choose from >(visit: http://www.ibmwr.org - look for the marketplace..) for >around that kinda money. "K" bikes are notoriously long lived, >and can present a great bargain for the buck.. lots of them >running around with > 250k on the original engines - which have >never been touched.. > >BMW's are typically longer lived than Japanese bikes.. partly >due to the construction quality, partly due to parts availability >for older bikes and lots due to the fanatics who ride them. 6,000 >miles is just considered a good weeks riding for lots of BMW owners >(I average 10k or so a year in NJ.. if we had decent weather...) I would suggest a "Cruiser" style bike. The more laid back riding position is a lot easier on "old riders" with less flex than they once had. You sit on your fanny with no weight on your arms and wrists, your feet are out front and not tucked under. You normally get a less performance than on a sport bike and less cornering clearance - but that may make it that much better for you to ride :-) BMW makes a nice motorcycle, but they have a horrible dealer network. Not necessarily the quality of the dealers - in the quantity. There are 3 dealers in the state of TN, one in NE - for example. If there is one not close by then you are out of luck. Also, if you plan on doing long distance riding (the forte of the BMW line for the most part) you are SOL if you break down because there are so few dealers. The BMW service schedule is a lot more frequent that other bikes too - and the dealers usually charge more. So unless you do the work yourself the bike costs more at purchase and to own. A Honda (and some other Japanese bikes) should be just as long lived and a lot cheaper to buy and maintain. I had a 750 boxer twin set up with a Luftmeister fairing, trunk, and hard bags. It was a nice bike, but the twins are not known for much power. I had to ride 90 miles or so one way to the closest dealer at the time - a real pain. I was looking at a new LT (to replace one of my bikes - a Valk Interstate) but the high price, lack of dealers, seat height, and lower power VS a GL1800 has me thinking the GL1800 will be the next bike. >BIG suggestion - since you haven't ridden in 20 years - look around >(not sure what state you're in) for a Motorcycle Safety Foundation >course. You can take the beginners course and beat up their bikes, >which in lots of states qualifies you for a motorcycle endorsement >on your license.. and then when you have some miles on your bike, >take the "Advanced Rider Course" (this is being replaced by a >new course.. forget the name - but I think the new one sounds like >an improvement). YES! Great idea, this should be your first stop. If you have let your motorcycle license expire then you could even do the MSF beginner course as well as the ERC course. In some states, passing the course + a written test = motorcycle license. No need to do a road test at the DMV. You for sure want to get some practice and instruction in a safe environment before doing a lot of riding on the road. One mistake on the road could = death or a lot of pain. Dennis 330i silver/black/manual/sp/pp/xenon/cd ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6253 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com |__________________________________________
