[uucdigest] Saturday, March 29 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6259
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Re: [uuc] <e30>sparco strut bar install Re: [uuc] <e30>sparco strut bar install ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 16:10:44 -0500 From: "Kathy Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: shops in Dayton/Cincinnati Call John Gad Just in Cincinnati (Fairfax - east side near the river). Kathy >Any recommendations for inspections, thanks. >Gary Lin - ---- Kathryn M. Lyle, CPA, CVA Lyle & Associates CPA www.lylecpa.com Creating Business Value ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:37:34 -0800 From: "T WALROD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Dear Mr. Derian, As a tremendous fan of both wide open throttle and penny pinching fuel economy I was very interested to read of your instructions for maximizing MPGs while keeping the right foot buried. So excited in fact, that I rushed out to put your plan into practice. All seemed to be going well until I turned off the ignition at 40mph while in the middle of a sweeping left hand turn. I expected to coast down to about 20mph and then restart the engine but ran out of left turn and was unable to stay on the road long enough to do so. Is there perhaps some other secret modification you made to your fuel economy rally car's steering that helped matters? 8-) "Left turn Clyde". Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:54:45 -0500 From: "Steven Hazard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: [E36] street/track pads I concur with Mark, R4S pads after some wear in squeal like hell. OTOH, I've done a few track days on them running dedicated brake ducting, and they hold up fine. Good pedal feel, no fade, etc. My next set of pads are going to be Ferodos... Here is an Email from a Vendor who sells them He posted this to the E36M3 mailing list back in Feb>>> "Of course what I say doesn't mean jack because I sell them, but everything about the Ferodo DS2500 is impressive, including it's history. Since Ferodo Racing is in Italy, they were approached by a well known manufacturer of exotic Italian machinery to produce a pad that stopped liked a race pad without squealing. Stop multiple times from 180MPH to traffic speeds on the Italian autoroutes. Friction values from dead cold rivals that of the popular Hawk Blue, which as you know is a full-on race pad. And the pedal feel and modulation characteristics, and friction vs temperature curve are unrivalled. Similar to its DS3000 big brother, but tamed for road use. The autocrossers I've given these things to generally crap themselves they're so excited. Well, uhh, not literally crap themselves (have to disclaim in case of humor impairment). But they are pretty happy with 'em. Caveats: - -They dust. Comparable to factory Jurids? - -Even though they do have good high temperature resistance (1000+F) they still aren't a full-on race pad. They're a street pad. But, of the track guys that I have had use them, there have only been a few complaints that they were inadaquate for track duty (lapping days and schools, not racing). These folks must be fairly mild brakers, 'cause I personally could burn them up in a few laps (I'm extremely abusive on brakes). But, the experience range of the guys, who have used these dual duty and not had issues with fade or excessive wear, range from beginners to 10 year veteran instructors. It's a compromise, but IMO a smart one. These things work pretty good. Actually, AP-Racing, who have supplied many brands of pads through the years with the brake kits of their manufacture (for fast-road use), finally settled down with one pad a few years back and haven't changed since. *That* says alot." Andrew Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 11:03:49 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: [E36] street/track pads I've tried these on three different BMW's. They're great for the first couple of months and then they squeal like a garbage truck. No matter what you do to try and quiet them down (leading edge chamfer, anti-squeal goop, anti-seize, etc etc etc). They are loud, loud pads. (the also overheat and fade easily on the track, faster than stock BMW pads) Good luck. - - - Mark, happy customer of Jack's, thinks Porterfield R4S pads suck - - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 16:01:11 -0800 (PST) From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <misc> mazda rev it up results I went to the 1st Mazda Rev It Up competition in Alameda today. Here's my report for those of you who are signed up for other cities. What's to see: All the current Mazda models, including the RX-8, all open for sittin'. A couple or 3 race cars too. The Mazda guys hanging around seem to be friendly and knowledgeable. You'll notice that none of the manual tranny models have shift knobs on them. That wasn't by plan, but the Mazda people discovered in the 1st half hour that their shift knobs are far too easily unscrewed. I'm checking Jim Ochi's trunk for shift knobs next time I see him. (ha ha, just kidding Jim) Falken is there with a bunch of their tires. The guy I talked to actually knew about tires, which was nice. What's to do: In addition to the autocross competition, there are 3 other exercises. The brake & turn, where you can test the ABS while turning. The slalom, and the racing line practice which is another autocross course with connect-the-dots apex cones marked out for your assistance. Each of these has instructional videos playing while you wait, and a real racer guy explaining things, of whom you may ask questions. John Rutherford, Adam Andretti, Ted Prappas, and Randy Tolsma are really there. Not just their pictures. There's also a Mazda drive section - I think that's just a slow speed test drive course more for the visitors than the competitors. I also saw some go-karts running amongst some straw bales. In addition, there are a bunch of arcade games and Xbox setups. The main event has you driving a Mazda 6 w/V6, lowered Eibach springs, Falken Azenis, Bosal exhaust, a harness, and unfortunately an auto tranny. You only get 2 runs (not at the same time), and cones are 2 seconds each, which is a huge penalty for a ~33.5 second course (that's pro time, not mine). Scoring is equalized based on the latest pro time into a 1000 point system so that scores can be compared all across the country for all 15 events. I scored a 521 which kept me on the leader board for the club class until at least 2PM when I left. (my 2nd run was great until I hit that cone. %!&^%$!) Those UUCers who participate should post their scores here too for bragging rights! Summary: Good organization, lotsa people, fun, not enough runs, expensive food, more stuff to do that I thought. Take a non-car friend, they can get some valuable instruction and a little seat time for not much cash. - -- "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster." -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:59:34 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Dear Mr. Derian, I believe I mentioned that one needs a car with manual steering, brakes and transmission. Also, coasting with the engine off is illegal in many states. The biggest secret is to jack up the rear suspension so the car always drives downhill and stop watching so much NASCAR. Gary Derian > As a tremendous fan of both wide open throttle and penny pinching fuel > economy I was very interested to read of your instructions for maximizing > MPGs while keeping the right foot buried. So excited in fact, that I rushed > out to put your plan into practice. All seemed to be going well until I > turned off the ignition at 40mph while in the middle of a sweeping left hand > turn. I expected to coast down to about 20mph and then restart the engine > but ran out of left turn and was unable to stay on the road long enough to > do so. Is there perhaps some other secret modification you made to your > fuel economy rally car's steering that helped matters? > > 8-) "Left turn Clyde". > > Tom > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:31:06 -0500 From: "Marshall Lytle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <e30>sparco strut bar install just got a sparco solid front strut bar for my e30 race car today. went to put it on and...no way. struts are about 1/2 in too close together. tried jacking the front end up and letting the suspension hang, no luck. anyone have any tricks for "spreading" the struts a little to get this to fit? thanks! marshall ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:42:00 -0500 From: "Kathy Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] My spell checker is f****d In answer to Gary Lin, call John Gadberry at JustBMW in Cincinnati. Sorry about the abbreviated answer last time. Kathy - ---- Kathryn M. Lyle, CPA, CVA Lyle & Associates CPA www.lylecpa.com Creating Business Value ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:55:11 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] <e30>sparco strut bar install The strut towers angle in towards each other. You may have to drop the struts out of the towers, place the bar, then pull the struts back up through the holes. Or, perhaps you needed the bar a little earlier? Using the above method, plus a port-a-power between the towers, will get you back to where you should be, but this method will reduce your negative camber. Lesser of two evils is.....? - ----------------------------------------------------- BMW Special Tool Rentals Pay per incident tech support - ----------------------------------------------------- Brett Anderson KMS (440) 338 1650 www.koalamotorsport.com OSS committee member > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Lytle > just got a sparco solid front strut bar for my e30 race car > today. went to > put it on and...no way. struts are about 1/2 in too close > together. tried > jacking the front end up and letting the suspension hang, no luck. anyone > have any tricks for "spreading" the struts a little to get this to fit? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:21:14 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] M20 oil spray bar? Just wondering, the bar that runs across the head on an M20 engine... it that a spray bar (little holes that hose the cam) or just plumbing? I have a feeling that a slightly bent one of these may be a bad thing... - -- Joe - -- Joseph M. Krzeszewski Network Operations [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:36:39 -0500 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <e30>sparco strut bar install There is a rumor (rumour) going around the net that says that there were two specs of E30 body shells one with a slightly wider distance between the towers. I don't believe it and have looked at frame straightening company specifications in Europe and here in the US and they all show a single dimension between the towers. I recommend spreading the towers using an old Buick bumper jack. Where did you get it? Will the E30 one fit a 325is, or just the M3? I have heard there are great buys to be found for them on eBay . . . Ed Marshall Lytle wrote: >just got a sparco solid front strut bar for my e30 race car today. went to >put it on and...no way. struts are about 1/2 in too close together. tried >jacking the front end up and letting the suspension hang, no luck. anyone >have any tricks for "spreading" the struts a little to get this to fit? > >thanks! >marshall > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:45:36 -0600 From: "Christian Els" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <e30>sparco strut bar install Ireland Engineering (whose strut brace is a clone if not just a repainted Sparco) sells two different lengths, saying they have consistently encountered two distinct widths of E30 chassis. No idea if that's true, but you may want to consider getting a short size Ireland bar to keep your camber the same. See their measurements and statements here: <https://secure5.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/product_detail.asp?CS=irela nd&RowID=237&All=> Regards, Christian Els Columbia, MO - ----- Original Message ----- From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The strut towers angle in towards each other. You may have to drop the > struts out of the towers, place the bar, then pull the struts back up > through the holes. > > Or, perhaps you needed the bar a little earlier? Using the above method, > plus a port-a-power between the towers, will get you back to where you > should be, but this method will reduce your negative camber. > > Lesser of two evils is.....? > > > -----Original Message----- > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Lytle > > just got a sparco solid front strut bar for my e30 race car > > today. went to > > put it on and...no way. struts are about 1/2 in too close > > together. tried > > jacking the front end up and letting the suspension hang, no luck. anyone > > have any tricks for "spreading" the struts a little to get this to fit? > > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6259 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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