[uucdigest] Saturday, June 14 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6461
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[uuc] Re: FS: Pristine 1988 928 S4 [uuc] Re: FS: Pristine 1988 928 S4 [uuc] teaching someone to drive your car Re: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e Re: [uuc] teaching someone to drive your car [uuc] RE: [uucdigest] V3 #6460 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:38:55 -0500 From: "Sam Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e I have been enjoying a 1985 318i for the past few years and doing my own work with much help reading this board I might add. My 25 year old son who lives nearby has witnessed my fun and wants a similar car. he has found a 1987 325i convertible (that's a 325iC; right?) that has had a 325e engine and tranny from a wrecked car swapped in, the owner says the car runs really well, doesn't burn oil or drip, but that it surge idles. We have gone over a lot of other stuff about suspension, seats, speedometer, etc and we accept the situation as it is. I'm thinking that the surge idle is the idle control module which could be replaced easily enough but perhaps it could be evidence of a bastardized match up of engine and ECU and other components. Would the car ever run if the correct ECU module is not there? Are there other questions I need to ask related to swap issues. Also he mentions using the solid drive line out of the 325e instead of keeping the flexible coupling. I don't have any idea of what to make of that. I am only familiar with the flex coupling set up. I would appreciate any specific facts or your opinions about the 325i to 325e engine and tranny swap. How do I make sure it is done right and also is it even advisable. I prefer 325i but 325e is OK and that is not my concern, just the issues about the swap. I basically avoid those things like the plague because one thing seems to lead to another but know that it is as good as one's knowledge about what one is doing. There is a good way to do it I am sure. But there also might be a way of just throwing something together that runs in the short haul so it can be dumped on someone else. My son needs this as transportation in a 2 car family. His wife drives the new car while he drives the old wreck (fun :) )car. he can't afford a disaster decision. It has to run most of the time except for timeout to do projects like replacing broken stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:25:25 -0400 From: Michael Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e I think the big question is How Much for this car? Going from an I to an E is a backwards step, and I am sure they did it since people tend to give away E motors vs $500-750 for an I motor. Also, what condition is the top, how long ago was it replaced etc? A new top and seals can be had for about $700-800, so keep that in mind. It is not hard to find a good used325iC for $2500-3500. My roommate is selling a great running 5spd 89 model with the later small bumpers, great paint etc, just needs top & seat covers for $2990. Mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:38 PM Subject: RE: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e > > I have been enjoying a 1985 318i for the past few years and doing my own > work with much help reading this board I might add. My 25 year old son who > lives nearby has witnessed my fun and wants a similar car. he has found a > 1987 325i convertible (that's a 325iC; right?) that has had a 325e engine > and tranny from a wrecked car swapped in, the owner says the car runs really > well, doesn't burn oil or drip, but that it surge idles. We have gone over > a lot of other stuff about suspension, seats, speedometer, etc and we accept > the situation as it is. > > I'm thinking that the surge idle is the idle control module which could be > replaced easily enough but perhaps it could be evidence of a bastardized > match up of engine and ECU and other components. Would the car ever run if > the correct ECU module is not there? Are there other questions I need to ask > related to swap issues. > > Also he mentions using the solid drive line out of the 325e instead of > keeping the flexible coupling. I don't have any idea of what to make of > that. I am only familiar with the flex coupling set up. > > I would appreciate any specific facts or your opinions about the 325i to > 325e engine and tranny swap. How do I make sure it is done right and also is > it even advisable. I prefer 325i but 325e is OK and that is not my concern, > just the issues about the swap. I basically avoid those things like the > plague because one thing seems to lead to another but know that it is as > good as one's knowledge about what one is doing. There is a good way to do > it I am sure. But there also might be a way of just throwing something > together that runs in the short haul so it can be dumped on someone else. > > My son needs this as transportation in a 2 car family. His wife drives the > new car while he drives the old wreck (fun :) )car. he can't afford a > disaster decision. It has to run most of the time except for timeout to do > projects like replacing broken stuff. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:30:09 -0700 From: "Polands" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] re: e28> Driveshaft u-joint rebuildable Chip, The factory drive shaft somehow doesn't allow simply swapping the U-joints. I replaced mine with a Driveline Service of Portland (OR) remanufactured one, and it has been going great for at least 8 years now. They fit the u-joints with zirc fittings, and use a joint that can be serviced. The cost will be closer to $400 by now, but I think it is a better way to go than a junkyard take out. They have a great record amongst all the various BMW discussion groups, and have a convenient packaging to UPS to you that you return your core with also. Steve Poland, '88 535is 230,000 miles Portland, OR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:03:25 -0500 From: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] re: e28> Driveshaft u-joint rebuildable Make sure and check your current driveshaft to see if it was changed out already. If so, it is likely rebuildable. If not, the factory driveshaft u-joints are not replacable, you have to get the whole thing changed out. I believe the factory driveshaft universal is called 'swagged-in'. You will also want to change out the rubber guibo, of course. Alex Cagann 88///M5 http://www.autoconsortium.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 16:50:34 -0400 From: "carl sewell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] "Rendezvous" Pls excuse the multi post. I wonder if any of you have gotten the "Rendezvous" DVD from Spirit Level in the UK. I was assured that it was compatible w/NTSC but the one I got made a "no disk". I was told probably because it is coded for some region other than the US (region 1?). Before I send it back I wld like some more info. Incidentally, I have the video tape: fantastic and I eagerly await a restored DVD version. many thanks Carl Sewell Charlottesville VA e36 M3/4 CCA 151298 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:12:56 -0400 From: "Ron J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <FS> OT 73 911, pics up on webpage. Hi All, Well, I scanned some pics I took of my 73 that I am selling and put together a small webpage with info on the car. It can be found at www.geocities.com/tatsu911 Thanks Ron J Toronto Canada 85 535i 73 911 2.7 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:49:21 -0400 From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: FS: Pristine 1988 928 S4 Actually, Indischrot and Guards Red are the same color and always have been. Sort of the same semantic issue as BMW "Schwartz" and "black". Michael Andre wrote: >We are sadly selling our GT cruiser, a 1988 928 S4. An amazing car. > >Immaculate Indischrot (predecessor to Guards Red), striking black interior ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:04:25 -0700 From: "Michael Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: FS: Pristine 1988 928 S4 No argument about the color spectrum of Guards Red. But, of course, since Guards Red is the more recent term and Indischrot was the term used earlier not everyone seems to know what I mean. It seems to me this is not quite the same as Schwartz vs. black (German vs. English, Indian red vs. Guards Red). Have a nice weekend. Mike Andre - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Marx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Michael Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:49 PM Subject: Re: FS: Pristine 1988 928 S4 > Actually, Indischrot and Guards Red are the same color and always > have been. Sort of the same semantic issue as BMW "Schwartz" and > "black". > > Michael Andre wrote: > >We are sadly selling our GT cruiser, a 1988 928 S4. An amazing car. > > > >Immaculate Indischrot (predecessor to Guards Red), striking black interior > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:51:20 -0700 From: "Tim Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] teaching someone to drive your car I think Brad just like to have someone else grab his "rod" and move it back and forth :)) we don't call him "shifty" for nothing. ohhh, not so hard, be gentle, caress the knob, stroke the lever. feel it engage each notch. Tim Ng 95 E36 M3 BzznM3 92 E30 325ic M-tech convetible 91 E30 M3 street car 88 E30 M3 Track car 93 Chevy Blazer 2 dr. tow vehicle Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 22:04:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: [E30Group] WTB E30 325e/i w/ automatic transmission Smart man, Scott! I tried to teach my girlfriend (now my ex) how to drive a stick. Yeah, my 535i. WOW that was horrible! She can't even drive an auto; I dunno WHAT I was thinking teaching her to drive a stick! Brad "Shifty" Couvillon '85 Euro 535i <-- never to be driven by her again '87 528e <-- driven by her back when it was an auto www.fatdaddybmw ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:28:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e - --- Michael Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is not hard to find a good used325iC for > $2500-3500. If it's an '87 or '88 or so. . . and an auto. . . and with bad paint. . . and stock wheels. A good later model iC is a 5-figure car. > My roommate is selling a great running 5spd 89 model > with the later small > bumpers, great paint etc, just needs top & seat > covers for $2990. No he's not. That car isn't for sale. :-) > Mike Brad "Shifty" Couvillon <-- bein' Shifty right now '85 Euro 535i '87 528e <-- soon to permanently move to the scrap yard www.fatdaddybmw.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:31:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] teaching someone to drive your car YEAH?! SO?!! She wasn't very good at moving the rod, though. I. . . er, my car must've had too much power. :-) Brad "Shifty" Couvillon '85 Euro 535i '87 528e <-- RIP www.fatdaddybmw.com - --- Tim Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think Brad just like to have someone else grab his > "rod" and move it back > and forth :)) > we don't call him "shifty" for nothing. > > ohhh, not so hard, be gentle, caress the knob, > stroke the lever. feel it > engage each notch. > > > Tim Ng __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 21:21:15 -0700 From: "jcd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: [uucdigest] V3 #6460 Chip, The driveshaft for your car has three u-joints. The center one can start to get stiff and tear up the center bearing. All three u-joints can be rebuilt. $325 for all three sounds about right. If unusual balancing is required, it could be more. I just had the center u-joint rebuilt for my 528e and it ran $114. Chas '83 633CSi '85 528e '86 325e '88 735i '94 525i Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 09:12:51 -0400 From: "GA Carnut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <e28> Driveshaft u-joint rebuildable? I have my '88 in the shop, and the guy says the driveshaft may be bad (bad u-joints tearing up the center bearing). He says he may have a used one that can swap on, but that the late '87/'88 e28 manual driveshafts are rare and he may have to have mine rebuilt. Question #1 - Is the driveshaft unique to that year range? Question #2 - Are the u-joints really rebuildable? I'm in Atlanta, and he says a company called Driveline Specialists (or something to that nature, they're in the Roundel) can rebuild them, for around $325 or so. I'm trying to weigh what I'm going to do w/ this $1000 car that I've already spent about $500 on (new center bearing that lasted 2 weeks, new sport wheel - - - yeah, really needed that one! ;-), exhaust system replaced...) What do y'all think? I'm weighing in the option of just selling the car as-is, and getting an e-34 - do the later 5-series (or early e-36's) suffer similar driveline 'opportunities' similar to the e30's and e28's? My wife wants me to sell it and get a honda (snore...) - I'm hooked on the bimmer... Thanks! 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