[uucdigest]           Monday, June 30 2003           Volume 03 : Number 6520



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       Re: [uuc] Change of plans...Maybe a new M3...
       Re: [uuc] Change of plans...Maybe a new M3...
       [uuc] [uucdigest] E36 M3 door lock problem, AGAIN
       [uuc] RE: Finding an SUV
       RE: [uuc] Change of plans...Maybe a new M3...
       [uuc] Re: Strange brake pad wear
       Re: [uuc] Re: Strange brake pad wear
       RE: [uuc] Change of plans...Maybe a new M3...Aftermarket Warranty company...
       RE: [uuc] RE: Finding an SUV
       Re: [uuc] Re: Strange brake pad wear
       Subject: [uuc] E30 fan clutch failing?
       Re: [uuc] Re: Strange brake pad wear
       Re: [uuc] Change of plans...Maybe a new M3...

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:58:41 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Change of plans...Maybe a new M3...

An SUV is no safer or more reliable than any other vehicle.  Get an SUV if
you need one, or even if you want one, but don't get one because it is safer
than a car.

Gary Derian

> transmission.  I still want her to have a safe reliable SUV (we have a 5

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 07:06:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Byrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Change of plans...Maybe a new M3...

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Binder, Larry - Spine wrote:

> transmission.  I still want her to have a safe reliable SUV (we have a 5
> month old baby).  So here is what I am looking for:
>
> 99 and up German, Japanese, SUV.  They seem to be the most reliable.  How is
> the LR Discovery II?
> High mileage is OK (she drives about 6k per year)
> Certified or extended warranty
> Would like to spend around 15k but would go up to 18k

Do you really need the SUV, persay? The vaunted safety of having three tons of
steel around you is, in my opinion (and in many others), overrated.

I would recommend an early 2000's 323iT (touring/wagon). Good gas mileage,
plenty of room to haul stuff around in. Can tow in a pinch. Excellent safety and
handling. I'm looking at a 2001 323iT on eBay (a good guide to prices, though a
double dose of caveat emptor applies if buying) that is sitting in the 14 grand
range with two days left. Definitely wouldn't expect it to go above your 18k
limit.

You can pick up an aftermarket warrenty on anything that is out of it with no
problem and still stay under budget.

Happy to help,

                        Tom Byrum
                        '93 325i

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:11:11 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] [uucdigest] E36 M3 door lock problem, AGAIN

My 97 M3 drivers door will not "dead bolt" nor do the sunroof/window close routine. 
The passanger door does. Any ideas where to start chasing this down?
Thanks,
Steve Rowe

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 07:16:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] RE: Finding an SUV

Another alternative might be an E34  525 wagon.  They hold a lot. They're pretty cheap 
these days,
and they run on the same inline 6 drivetrain you've come to know if you're driving an 
E36, or
similar car.  I'm planning on that (possibly an E39) as my family's domestic needs 
grow.


Marc Plante
E36 325i, 214k
Vienna, VA

Marc Plante
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:18:32 -0400
From: "Binder, Larry - Spine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Change of plans...Maybe a new M3...

I understand this but we do really need an SUV (4wd + lots of cargo space +
ground clearance).  So as far as SUV's go, it must be reliable and safe.  I
didn't mention it but we would also consider an Audi wagon.

Thanks,

Larry
- -----Original Message-----
From: Gary Derian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 9:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] Change of plans...Maybe a new M3...


An SUV is no safer or more reliable than any other vehicle.  Get an SUV if
you need one, or even if you want one, but don't get one because it is safer
than a car.

Gary Derian

> transmission.  I still want her to have a safe reliable SUV (we have a 
> 5

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:22:06 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Re: Strange brake pad wear

  This is a resend, since my first may have bounced due to the AOL 8.0 foolishness.

  In any case.... just removed Porterfield R pads after track event.  At left rear, 
the outboard pad has 1/4" material left, but the inboard pad is down to the backing 
plate!  Pads in other calipers wearing at same rate -- each with approx. 1/4" pad 
remaining.  FWIW, I didn't detect any signs that the left rear caliper binding on 
guide bolts or otherwise not behaving properly.

  Advice/suggestions?

Neil Simon
Wash, DC
99 M Coupe

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:25:31 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Strange brake pad wear

Check the rotor surface, it may be rough.
Gary Derian



>   This is a resend, since my first may have bounced due to the AOL 8.0
foolishness.
>
>   In any case.... just removed Porterfield R pads after track event.  At
left rear, the outboard pad has 1/4" material left, but the inboard pad is
down to the backing plate!  Pads in other calipers wearing at same rate -- 
each with approx. 1/4" pad remaining.  FWIW, I didn't detect any signs that
the left rear caliper binding on guide bolts or otherwise not behaving
properly.
>
>   Advice/suggestions?
>
> Neil Simon
> Wash, DC
> 99 M Coupe
>

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:28:53 -0400
From: "Binder, Larry - Spine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Change of plans...Maybe a new M3...Aftermarket Warranty company...

I suggested the 3 series touring but she wasn't too sure about having both
of our cars look so similar.  Also the ground clearance would be an issue.
And I would need a 4wd (323xit??). I may try to suggest it to her again.  It
does seem like it is in our price range.

Can anyone recommend a good aftermarket warranty company?

Thanks,
Larry

- -----Original Message-----
From: Tom Byrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:07 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: [uuc] Change of plans...Maybe a new M3...


On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Binder, Larry - Spine wrote:

> transmission.  I still want her to have a safe reliable SUV (we have a 
> 5 month old baby).  So here is what I am looking for:
>
> 99 and up German, Japanese, SUV.  They seem to be the most reliable.  
> How is the LR Discovery II? High mileage is OK (she drives about 6k 
> per year) Certified or extended warranty
> Would like to spend around 15k but would go up to 18k

Do you really need the SUV, persay? The vaunted safety of having three tons
of steel around you is, in my opinion (and in many others), overrated.

I would recommend an early 2000's 323iT (touring/wagon). Good gas mileage,
plenty of room to haul stuff around in. Can tow in a pinch. Excellent safety
and handling. I'm looking at a 2001 323iT on eBay (a good guide to prices,
though a double dose of caveat emptor applies if buying) that is sitting in
the 14 grand range with two days left. Definitely wouldn't expect it to go
above your 18k limit.

You can pick up an aftermarket warrenty on anything that is out of it with
no problem and still stay under budget.

Happy to help,

                        Tom Byrum
                        '93 325i

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:31:13 -0400
From: "Binder, Larry - Spine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] RE: Finding an SUV

That's a good idea.  I'll look into them.  Do you know about how much they
cost right now?

Larry

- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] RE: Finding an SUV


Another alternative might be an E34  525 wagon.  They hold a lot. They're
pretty cheap these days, and they run on the same inline 6 drivetrain you've
come to know if you're driving an E36, or similar car.  I'm planning on that
(possibly an E39) as my family's domestic needs grow.


Marc Plante
E36 325i, 214k
Vienna, VA

Marc Plante
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:44:56 -0400
From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Strange brake pad wear

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In any case.... just removed Porterfield R pads after track
> event.  At left rear, the outboard pad has 1/4" material left,
> but the inboard pad is down to the backing plate!  Pads in
> other calipers wearing at same rate -- each with approx.
> 1/4" pad remaining.  FWIW, I didn't detect any signs that
> the left rear caliper binding on guide bolts or otherwise
> not behaving properly.

I assume you've already changed the fronts one time to go
with the normal 2x as quick wear rate as compared to the
fronts ?

the "normal" pad to have the most wear is the LF inside
pad (assuming normal right-turn biased racetrack) or
at least that's what they always warn you to check at
the events I've done.


Ben

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:43:58 -0400
From: "Crawford, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Subject: [uuc] E30 fan clutch failing?

Neil, Ed and everyone who responded,

I spent some time looking closer at this this weekend.  I'm confident the
play is in the fan clutch, as determined by visual inspection (it's obvious)
and by removing the fan the noise/vibration goes away.  Also, the water pump
is new as of March and from a reputable source.  Those aren't guarantees,
but combined with everything else, I ordered a new fan clutch just a few
minutes ago.

Thanks again.

Scott Crawford
'89 325is

Moses Cone Health System 
Greensboro, North Carolina 27401

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:47:22 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Strange brake pad wear

Neil Simon wrote:
>FWIW, I didn't detect any signs that
>the left rear caliper binding on guide bolts or otherwise not behaving
>properly.

Hmm strange but in any case.... rebuild them! :-)
It could be the piston getting hung up and not the guide bolts.

I think I rebuilt one of Ben's on his '99 M Coupe (front one) but it's
possible
that your car could use a refresh on the seals/dust boots by now.

Carlos.
91 M3

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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:57:09 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] Change of plans...Maybe a new M3...

I can't speak for the German or Japanese, but my fiance's family is nuts
about british automobiles, MGs, and Land Rovers.  They have over two dozen
Rovers between them.  Bottom line - Disco's and other Land Rovers are safe,
relatively cheap for a used one, and the best 4x4 by far, but not very
reliable or user friendly or mechanic friendly.  They are underpowered,
unless you get the BMW engine, and tend to spring leaks here and there.
Lucas electronic years should be avoided at any costs, as well as first
year Bosch electronics - too many bugs.


Phil



                                                                                       
                                                   
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I went to my local dealer this weekend and was looking for a 325/330i.  My
wife noticed a 2002 M3 on the way into the parking lot and said to me, "Why
don't we just get the M3?"  I told her because of how much they cost
(around
50k). She told me that she would get a less expensive car if we could get
the M3.  And get this, she said that she would prefer the manual
transmission.  I still want her to have a safe reliable SUV (we have a 5
month old baby).  So here is what I am looking for:

99 and up German, Japanese, SUV.  They seem to be the most reliable.  How
is
the LR Discovery II?
High mileage is OK (she drives about 6k per year)
Certified or extended warranty
Would like to spend around 15k but would go up to 18k

Thanks in advance!!

Larry
Does anyone know if the M3 will get the coupe headlight change?
Possible M3 in my future

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