[uucdigest] Tuesday, July 1 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6530
_________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.bmwdatabase.com | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] SUVs RE: [uuc] E36 325 LSD? Re: [uuc] Aluminum Jacks [uuc] Re: floor jacks RE: [uuc] Left foot braking Re: [uuc] Re: floor jacks Re: [uuc] Re: floor jacks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 18:27:38 -0400 From: "David A. Leonard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] SUVs SUV's I hate em for daily drivers, I LOVE my 93 1/2 ton 4x4 350 TBI injected GMC Suburban..tows anything, carries eight in comfort, ccan haul a pinball machine in the back, gets 15 mpg on the highway, and handles great (for a 6,000 lb truck, with All season Radials, and gas shocks) PS.. the brakes are terrible, don't try to stop fast, if you do use both legs and really stand on it or you won't even get the Kelsey Hayes POS ABS brakes to fire! The real problem with SUV's is that they give the illusion of handling like a sedan, until you come off an exit ramp, and find yourself looking at a line of stopped bumpers, hit the binders, and realize that you better aim for the shoulder, as it AINT stopping in time! (See the 6,000 lb all season rubber, Kelsey Hayes note) Deer in the road can raise your pulse! They are GREAT trucks, I keep myself and my family in cars for the everyday commuting. Used Suburbans, and Tahoes are some of the best deals on the used market these days, 7k will get you a 95, and these things have air, cruise, swaybars, big V8's fuel injection, independant front suspension, 16" alloy wheels,LSD etc. The repair parts either aftermarket or OEM are Cheeep..I just replaced the exhaust for $140 from cat back, the Brakes are about $70 all the way around for lifetime pads and shooz, Water pumps are $25 or so, they don't really rust out anymore, and they are really really comfortable..I drove my 93 across the country form Denver a while back..filled it up in Denver, Iowa, Indiana, and Albany..big tanks.42 gallons Bubba, that is almost a whole 55 gallon drum!. Like driving your living room across the country. The 140k mile engine burned 3/4 qt. of oil in this trip, and we did Nebraska at D-2 (Speedo only goes to 85, but the needle will indicate in the AT indicator as it wraps around! The nice thing about the full size GMs is that the suspension is truck like, real stiff, so the understeer isn't so prominent when you try to throw them around . The are really nice rides in snow storms. I like having a truck with 4wd around, but it is a dumb vehicle to drive full time, but sweet to have around during major surgery jobs on the Bimmerz Dave Leonard Truck fan 88 735i , 91 325i, 93 'Burb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 15:36:21 -0700 (PDT) From: willie yeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] E36 325 LSD? I used to own a 94 325is with traction control. I think it came with the winter package. However, the wheels are 15 inches. 16 inchers starts in 96. Will - --- "Vernon L. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex, > > Thanks for the info. I knew the i and is > designations, but I wasn't sure if > the sport package was the same for both. Munich is > famous for making them > different. Did the 93-95 sp cars come with 16"'s? > Reason I ask is that > some people autox that vintage car in stock with the > sp and I thought they > use the 15's, if they had 16's they would HAVE to > use those. For stock, no > upgrades are allowed. Of course, once beyond, into > DSP and other areas, he > can upgrade. I wasn't aware the TC was even > available as I've never seen > it - it must be rare indeed. The diff is critical > for autox, so did ALL sp > cars come with it if they didn't have TC, was it > part of the sp? Thanks > very much for the info.... > > Vern > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:41 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: Vernon L. Anderson > > Subject: RE: [uuc] E36 325 LSD? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > A friend of mine is considering a 325 (i or > is) with a sport package > > > > for some daily driving and autocrossing. Will > probably start > > > > autocrosssing it in DS, then maybe move to > STS, STX or DSP. I'm an > > > > E36M3 guy, so my knowledge of the various E36 > 325's isn't great. > > > > He is looking at a late-93 to 95 325. A few > questions: > > > > 1. Sport package - what exactly did it > consist of? Same in the i > > > > and is? > > > > Vern, > > For E36s, 'i' means a 4-door and 'is' is merely a > 2-door. No correlation > > with 'sports packages' as the case used to be with > early E30s and E28s. > > Sports Package included slightly stiffer springs, > shocks and sway bars. > > 16" instead of 15" wheels and sportier vs. > all-season tires. All of the > > above will be replaced/upgraded once you start > autoXing. > > > > > > 2. LSD - we were told that some 325's came > with a LSD, but they had > > > > to be without traction control. I wasn't > aware any E36 325's had a > > > > diff. Any ideas? > > "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > As far as I know, no E36 325s had traction > control. That made it into > > > the 3 series with the 328 in 1996. > > > > Brett, > > TC was optional on '94-95 325's. > > Rare, but available. IIRC, when ordered, it would > replace the LSD. > > > > > If an E36 had traction control (with the > exception of the M3) it did > > > NOT have an LSD. If an E36 did NOT have > traction control, it MIGHT > > > have had an LSD. > > > > LSD was optional for 325's and IIRC, came with the > Sprot Package. That is > > if the TC was not present (like Brett said). > > > > alex f > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 16:29:54 -0700 From: "J. Ochi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Aluminum Jacks At 12:33 PM 7/1/2003 -0400, Stan Jackson Jr. wrote: >So, how do you judge quality, reliability, and safety? Here is my >speculation -- can anyone put engineering fact to speculation? > Some pseudo-random thoughts about jacks... Do you really need an aluminum jack? They're nice to haul around for track use, but honestly, most people just pull them out of their truck/trailer/trunk and use them in their paddock area. Not much hauling around there. Around the garage, are you really going to be lifting and carrying the jack, or can you just drag a jack on its wheels? If you're just wheeling around the jack, lighter weight isn't very important. Since you can get more jack for your money if you go steel vs. aluminum, you might want to really think about your needs. 3-pumps vs. 6-pumps. TANSTAAFL. Fewer pumps means that each pump takes more effort. Fewer pumps does mean that you can get your car up in the air faster, but unless you're doing race-style pitstops, it just doesn't really matter. Personally, I've used some of my friend's 6-pump jacks, and I'd rather have a good 15-pump jack for regular use. Maybe I'm just a lazy wuss. Since the 6-pump jack moves more per pump, it's harder to use to support and jockey pieces of the car back into place. Like trying to use it to put in a diff, or to position the rear hub so that you can reattach the lower shock bolt. One of the biggest differences between the quality jacks and the cheap made-in-a-third-world-country jacks is the release mechanism. The good ones are very controllable. The cheap ones don't allow you to control the speed very well - it's hard to set down the car gently, or to lower the jack a half-inch to align something. Availability of replacement seals is important, especially if you aren't buying the 39.95 disposable jack-in-a-plastic-box from WalMart et al. If you intend to invest in a good jack, make sure that repair kits are available... Build of the jack. Look at the frame, and compare it to other jacks at similar and higher price points. With the steel jacks, the cheaper jacks use thinner steel in the frame, and often just use a flat piece of metal. The more expensive jacks use thicker steel, and add either gussets or flanges to add strength. I also like to check the wheels - wider, bigger wheels work better than small skinny wheels. They also have less of a tendency to sink into the asphalt on a hot day, or get hung up on small pebbles when you're trying to wheel them around. Especially check the rear wheels - I've seen some that were so wimpy, I wouldn't trust them on a desk chair... For capacity, more is better until you get to too much. The really high capacity jacks may not go low enough to fit under your car. The low capacity jacks may be scary if you're trying to jack up your Excursion. Jim Ochi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 19:06:46 -0500 From: "Scott Staewen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: floor jacks Hard on the the transmission or floorpan, and perhaps a bit tippy, but hardly impossible. :) >From: Sean Cordone but it's physically impossible to support more than half the weight of >a car with a single point jack. > _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 11:37:05 -0500 From: "Thomas G. Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Left foot braking I have done a bit of LFB myself. At the track this weekend I was doing it in a particularly quick set of corners where being smooth was the most important benefit. With my big paws it's hard for me to quickly transition from brake to gas smoothly so if I can involve the left foot to help with that, so much the better for me. A friend of mine who raced formula fords bought an automatic car for his daily driver and braked lefty ONLY for several months to get some good pedal feel before he took it to the track. I use the left foot often to help get some practice at applying the brake smoothly. Tom At 02:15 PM 6/26/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Lucky for the SMG'ed folks among us but what do the rest >do? Anyone here a LFB fiend that care to comment, give advice, tell >stories, etc? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:53:17 -0400 From: "Michael McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: floor jacks here here. I've had a Formula Ford on one jackstand before. had a guy pushing down on the front wing to keep it balanced. so thats more than 100% of the car's weight... coulda had a shop jack in the *middle* instead of the saw horse type thing. (actually, i think it *was* a saw horse.) anyway, the more capacity the jack has, the better. you might have it in your 48 foot gooseneck trailer for your car, the trailer get a flat, and the truck driver decide he wants to use it to jack up the left side of the trailer with 3 cars in it. I've never personally seen a floor jack collapse / explode, but i bet it isn't pretty. - -Michael McCoy - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Staewen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 8:06 PM Subject: [uuc] Re: floor jacks > Hard on the the transmission or floorpan, and perhaps a bit tippy, but > hardly impossible. :) > > >From: Sean Cordone > but it's physically impossible to support more than half the weight of > >a car with a single point jack. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:30:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: floor jacks Without getting into details, the missus and I had to jack up both the side and the tongue of our 24' enclosed trailer with 3200 lb Camaro inside over the last few days, and at a certain point the 3000 lb steel Sears floor jack just stopped raising the rig. No pop, no ping, no bam, just didn't go up. We would pump, and it would stay the same level. Regarding AL jacks and realistic use, I bought the Zinco jack from evosport.com. They currently have it for something like $450, which is at least $100 less than I paid about a year ago. I never hear of people having breakage / failure with this jack, but that isn't exactly a scientific examination, since numerous people have and talk about the HF jack, and not many discuss (positive or negative) the Zinco jack. Mine came with a rebuild kit, so no concerns there. Plus, my wife can lift it, which was the reason for purchase in the first place. You get what you pay for. Sometimes you get a deal, but mostly you get what you pay for. Jason - --- Michael McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > anyway, the more capacity the jack has, the better. > you might have it in > your 48 foot gooseneck trailer for your car, the > trailer get a flat, and the > truck driver decide he wants to use it to jack up > the left side of the > trailer with 3 cars in it. > I've never personally seen a floor jack collapse / > explode, but i bet it > isn't pretty. > > -Michael McCoy > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6530 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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