[uucdigest] Thursday, July 3 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6541
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[uuc] re: V8 swaps and turbos Re: [uuc] re: V8 swaps and turbos [uuc] Re: Allstate and Driver Schools [uuc] <Misc> RE: Thinking of buying an E36 328is [uuc] No longer the entry-level BMW ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:54:26 -0700 From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: E55 v M5, M3 v S4, etc MB seems to have taken the lag out of the supercharger by plopping it right on the valley of the V and making is integral with the intake. Of course they have to closely monitor intake temps but it's a good solution and aesthetically pleasing. - -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:04:36 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: E55 v M5, M3 v S4, etc Superchargers don't lag the way turbochargers do. The penalty for that is much less potential power increase. Superchargers are great when they can be shut on and off as needed, and used for short bursts of power. Gary Derian > > MB seems to have taken the lag out of the supercharger by plopping it right on > the valley of the V and making is integral with the intake. Of course they have > to closely monitor intake temps but it's a good solution and aesthetically > pleasing. > > -Kevin > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:23:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Having the best of both worlds in a 3.5l - --0-415713687-1057260214=:86081 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have two cars, both powered by the same model engine but with vastly different purposes. I'm looking for opinions and options about how to approach each case. First is the street car, a 1991 535i with 235k miles, 5 speed and drive over 100 miles on the daily commute. I like the car but want better mileage. Not wanting to change the rear diff ratio, is it feasible to put in a later model 6 speed manual? Then engine has tons of torque and pulling low revs at high speed should not be a problem if the gearing is right. The tranny can be pulled out when we replace the shifter bushings and guibo soon anyway, so if a 6 speed would bolt up, why not. Next is the '79 e12 track car with the same model (1991) 3.5l engine. It has a close ratio European "dogleg" tranny and is a ton of fun but like all track cars, you want more horsepower, hopefully without giving up relaibility. I've already gone the hot engine route with a long duration, high lift Schrick cam, porting, headers, etc. What about replacing the AFM with a MAS. This looks like the way to go to free up some extra ponies. Is the newer kit (read lower cost) available yet and if so, where? Thanks, hope to see some of you this weekend for the Tarheel Chapter school at VIR, it's going to be outrageous. Dave Nichols - --0-415713687-1057260214=:86081 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <DIV>I have two cars, both powered by the same model engine but with vastly different purposes. I'm looking for opinions and options about how to approach each case. First is the street car, a 1991 535i with 235k miles, 5 speed and drive over 100 miles on the daily commute. I like the car but want better mileage. Not wanting to change the rear diff ratio, is it feasible to put in a later model 6 speed manual? Then engine has tons of torque and pulling low revs at high speed should not be a problem if the gearing is right. The tranny can be pulled out when we replace the shifter bushings and guibo soon anyway, so if a 6 speed would bolt up, why not.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Next is the '79 e12 track car with the same model (1991) 3.5l engine. It has a close ratio European "dogleg" tranny and is a ton of fun but like all track cars, you want more horsepower, hopefully without giving up relaibility. I've already gone the hot engine route with a long duration, high lift Schrick cam, porting, headers, etc. What about replacing the AFM with a MAS. This looks like the way to go to free up some extra ponies. Is the newer kit (read lower cost) available yet and if so, where?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks, hope to see some of you this weekend for the Tarheel Chapter school at VIR, it's going to be outrageous.</DIV><BR><BR>Dave Nichols - --0-415713687-1057260214=:86081-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 16:39:01 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Tool kit for road trip - "must have" tools? Lots of tools/parts are available in your truck lid tool box and ensure tires and spare are aired up. ;^) I would include some specialty tools: water pump sized crescent, ratchet set with needed sockets & allen sockets, large screw driver, 12x13 long boxend for tightening belts, �" drive breaker bar with wheel lug bolt size socket, I also carry valve adjusting feeler gauges and excentric tool, etc. I would include some specialty spare parts/items: alternator points*, Hi/Lo headlights, thermostat, water pump* and gasket, complete belt set, small assortment of hose clamps, rubber fuel line, mechanic's wire, radiator sealant powder, fluids for hydraulic stuff (eg brakes, booster), muffler patch/support, main & fuel pump relays, fuel filter, yes - duct tape, model specific parts that might be problematic and repair manual. * items that failed caused BMW road side emergencies for me over 400k miles or so: non-working alternator, failed water pump, flat tires. Unfortunately, I drive a car with 238K miles on it - Don Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 18:52:10 -0600 From: "Rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Tool kit for road trip - "must have" tools? I am going to assemble a tool kit to take on my many driving road trips this summer. Obviously it will include all the normal metric wrenches, sockets, allen keys, etc, but can anyone suggest some BMW (E36?) specific tools that could be handy on the side of the road? This box will be small (18x10x10 ?) and I don't plan to do any roadside engine rebuilds but I would like it to be somewhere complete. Thanks, Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 14:08:27 -0700 From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] re: V8 swaps and turbos re: V8 swaps and turbos: Back in the eighties I recall a Ford 351 built into a 2002 to run the Four Ball rally. 300+ hp transmitted through a Jaguar sold rear axle, in a 2500 pound car, that was fast. Also back then, there was the 745i turbo. Callaway, Dinan, and others had vicious BMW turbos kits available. My 320iS Callaway was an awesome sleeper until it put a hole in a piston, then it came time to put it asleep for good. That's one good reason why not to sell a production turbo. Higher production costs plus more complexity added to an engine, while the turbo makes it relatively simple to pump out much more power than stock. If something blows during the warranty period, it can be reset to stock specs and the manufacturer is out. 'jk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:17:57 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] re: V8 swaps and turbos Modern turbo engines have a host of electronic protection. The new Audi's for instance have wide band EGO and temp sensors in each side. If the engine goes lean or gets hot, fuel is added. The same technology can sense and store boost levels, just as max rpm levels are already stored. Gary Derian > re: V8 swaps and turbos: > > Back in the eighties I recall a Ford 351 built into a 2002 to run > the Four Ball rally. 300+ hp transmitted through a Jaguar sold rear > axle, in a 2500 pound car, that was fast. > Also back then, there was the 745i turbo. Callaway, Dinan, and > others had vicious BMW turbos kits available. My 320iS Callaway was an > awesome sleeper until it put a hole in a piston, then it came time to > put it asleep for good. That's one good reason why not to sell a > production turbo. Higher production costs plus more complexity added to > an engine, while the turbo makes it relatively simple to pump out much > more power than stock. If something blows during the warranty period, > it can be reset to stock specs and the manufacturer is out. > > 'jk > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:27:09 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: Allstate and Driver Schools In 1995 in California, State Farm covered my driving school accident (E30 325is was totalled). I don't know if they still cover driving schools or not. I don't know if it is the same in all states. AllStates. Allstate. Ha. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 13:20:09 -0400 >From: "GA Carnut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Allstate and Driver Schools > >What does State Farm (I'm in Georgia if that matters) say about this? > >What are some track friendly companies? > >Thanks > >Chip > >Chip Mautz > >'88 BMW 528e >'64 Austin Healey Sprite >'02 Toyota 4Runner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:59:24 -0400 From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <Misc> RE: Thinking of buying an E36 328is Jack, et all: as the owner of one of those slightly modified, lesser 3 series cars, I'd like to offer an alternative opinion. As some of you may know from my Sig file, I drive a 1993 325...growly exhaust so I can hear it on the track, H&R OE Koni suspension, JC Chip...yada yada. I find that on the street, in most places it's got enough power to keep me well entertained, in fact short shifting, to keep things appropriate from a speed perspective here in the Northeast. If I were back at my old home in TX, where it's 430 miles to the beach, or CA where I used to pass people READING while driving on I-5 from LA to SF (not to mention the 9.5 hr drive from LA to SLC). I might appreciate supersonic power, but generally, being M-less is not that bad... One the TRACK (I've got 60 track days and teach for the BMWCCA NCC chapter) I've found that generally, until I got to the "A" run groups, I have had a good time passing a lot of M3s, particularly on the more technical tracks like Mid Ohio where power needs to be balanced with finesse (yes, I curse the back straight at the Glen). in the higher run groups, I still do pretty well as long as the straights aren't too long, though I have to do more shifting to keep the car in the torque curve. I let another instructor friend (E36M pilot) drive my car for a session, and he complained about "how much work it was" to keep the speed up. I guess I've enjoyed the challenge of keeping up with less...plus there are still E30 325 pilots out there that outrun both me and some E36 M pilots. That makes *me* feel like I haven't earned an M yet since I should still be getting more out of my 325. I've ridden in many M3s on the track, and yes it would be nice to have the same torque one gear lower, but if you're not an absolute speed-hound, the 2.8 or 2.5 can be a reasonable, lower cost alternative. My rotors cost $35 ea...tires, brake pads etc are smaller and cheaper, keeping the cost of ownership down. I also have an M3 sitting in my garage (My wife's...how's that for a loving husband) and I trade off between the cars regularly. Will I look forward to taking the M3 out on the track? yes...but my 325 fits like an old pair of dock siders with duct tape on them right now, and I'm reluctant to let go. On the other hand, used M3s are pretty damn affordable. Laura's M3/4 with 40k on it only cost $21k. Arguments for buying a 328/5 as a lower priced car aren't as compelling as they were when I was shopping 8 yrs ago. So, would you always second guess yourself for owning a 328 vs. an M3? it really depends on whether you enjoy finessing a situation vs applying brute force, and how much speed you really need. I also suspect that the 328/5 cars last a little longer since the drivetrains aren't as stressed. I haven't seen many //M-3 Sig files with mileage like mine...(though they haven't been in production that long) Marc Plante E36 325i, 214k Vienna, VA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:12:46 +0100 From: "Andrew Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] No longer the entry-level BMW Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As technically interesting as the E46 M3 may be, I think BMW missed one of > the all time good bets in not putting the V8 into the E46. Although the > usual tuner suspects have done so, it's said to be very difficult, requiring > both chassis sheet metal modification and major rework of the steering. (The > steering column wants to go right through one of the exhaust manifolds.) > > If BMW doesn't make provision for the V8 in the next 3 series I'll know > they're really boneheads. For the next generation of 3 series, this will not be a problem. The car will doubtless be bigger and wider still, allowing the easy fitment of a V8. Also, at launch, the next 3 series will no longer be the baby of the BMW range, circumventing the risible situation where BMW's "entry-level" car can be had with a 4.x V8 (remembering that its rivals the A4/S4 and Merc C Class are not actually their respective manufacturers' "entry-level" cars either). Andy T ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6541 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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