[uucdigest]           Friday, July 11 2003           Volume 03 : Number 6565



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       RE: [uuc] Carbon emissions
       Re: [uuc] Carbon emissions
       [uuc] RE: Merc manuals
       [uuc] Re: Removing Tint?
       [uuc] BMW Engine numbers
       [uuc] RE: AMG S65
       [uuc] E53 white turn signal  indicators (full set) where is the best pl ace to 
purchase these?
       Re: [uuc] E53 white turn signal  indicators (full set) where is the best place 
to purchase these?
       Re: [uuc] Too much power?
       [uuc] How to measure injector duty cycle?
       Re: [uuc] How to measure injector duty cycle?
       Re: [uuc] Merc manuals
       [uuc] What kind of soap is everyone using to wash their cars?  Is the Z ymol 
worth it? Any other suggestions?
       Re: [uuc] Merc manuals
       [uuc] re:  Aux Fan (I want high speed only) was Fan
       RE: [uuc] How to measure injector duty cycle?

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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:15:35 -0400
From: "Andrew E. Skopp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Carbon emissions

It was hydrocarbon.  The reading was .948 gpm HC, and the pass line is 1.000 gpm

Andrew E. Skopp


- -----Original Message-----
From: Gary Derian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 1:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] Carbon emissions


Carbon dioxide or monoxide?  Probably monoxide.  Likely cause is rich
mixture from a worn out EGO sensor.  Might be other things.  Hard to tell
with no data.

Gary Derian


> A friend of mine just took his V8 powered 5 series in for Maryland's
emissions testing.  It passed, but came back with a carbon emissions reading
that was just under the pass/fail line.  A year ago it was almost
undetectable.  What can increased carbon emissions be an indicator of?
Thanks in advance,
>
> Andrew E. Skopp
>

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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:29:17 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Carbon emissions

HC emissions increase with misfire.  Plugs and ignition are the main
suspects, also a host of other things from clogged injectors to air leaks.

A cold catalyst is another cause.

Gary Derian


> It was hydrocarbon.  The reading was .948 gpm HC, and the pass line is
1.000 gpm
>
> Andrew E. Skopp
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Derian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 1:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [uuc] Carbon emissions
>
>
> Carbon dioxide or monoxide?  Probably monoxide.  Likely cause is rich
> mixture from a worn out EGO sensor.  Might be other things.  Hard to tell
> with no data.
>
> Gary Derian
>
>
> > A friend of mine just took his V8 powered 5 series in for Maryland's
> emissions testing.  It passed, but came back with a carbon emissions
reading
> that was just under the pass/fail line.  A year ago it was almost
> undetectable.  What can increased carbon emissions be an indicator of?
> Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Andrew E. Skopp
> >
>
>

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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:51:12 -0400
From: "Felix Vicente" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: Merc manuals

> Not quite AFAIK. At least in the US, the SLK and the C-class 
> are the only
> Mercs available with manuals. The CLK is NOT available with a 
> manual tranny,
> although it would fix its weakest point if it was. The Mercedes "touch
> shift" 5-sp auto is just awful--there is a maddening delay of 
> *many* seconds
> before it responds to your  downshifts. It is so bad that we 
> preferred to
> buy a '99 with the older auto tranny instead of the 2000+ 
> CLK. The CLK V8s
> would be really terrific cars with a proper manual box.

the touch shift in our ML is much faster than any step-equipped BMW I've
driven. Another plus is it's always on, you don't have to slide the shifter
over to the left first. if you need a couple of downshifts real quick, a
nice double-click of the lever (which is a far shorter motion than the BMW
ones, btw) gets you a 2 gear downshift.

but, just as with the steptronics, i play with it every now and then, but
90% of the time just leave the blasted thing in Drive. They're all gimicks,
whether you call it Steptronic, Tiptronic, Touchshift, whatever. They are
all still slushboxes. The only one that interests me of late is the Audi one
in the TT with the 3.2, which isn't just a fancy lever on a traditional
auto.

i've sat in, but not driven, an SLK 6-spd and was far from impressed with
the shifter feel. The C230k coupe's felt much better.

- -felix
miami,fl
97 540/6 i prefer three pedals
98 740
95 525

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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:14:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Removing Tint?

I've heard from another board that the pro uses a mix
of water and hosehold ammonia to soak the tint and use
a black garbage bag to cover underneath and leave it
in the sun for an hour and the tint should peel right
off. Then use Goo Gone to remove the remaining glue
residue. 
Never tried this myself, so do it at your own risk.

Joe


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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:32:16 +0000
From: "Gregory Bradbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] BMW Engine numbers

Question on BMW engine numbers.

I'm about to buy a 1976 5 series built in South Africa (long story why) and 
the title gives the serial number of the engine in a separate field.  The 
VIN numbering system for SA built cars (from the 1970's in any case) means 
that the engine number isn't (like some other BMW's) the last 6 or 7 digits 
of the VIN number.

The original engine number (4580847) was a twin carb M30 3.0 liter (Bavaria 
engine if you like).  It was replaced 2-3 years later with another one 
(56653314) which also appears to be the correct engine, as the block has the 
same markings (3.0/3.3) for the 89 mm bore bottom end. oesn't give a chassis 
number the same as the engine number.  Replacement engine's head has 1977 
casting number.

1) Does anyone know what the engine serial numbering convention is for 
1970's BMW's.
2) Did / do factory exchange engines have serial numbers?
3) Any way of knowing what the replacement engine came from (if it was a 
used engine)?

Other thoughts are also appreciated.

TIA,

Gregory in Geneva

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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:47:29 -0700
From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: AMG S65

Andy says:

...."While Mercedes will continue with its 155
mph speed limit, its performance is designed for the empty, unrestricted
autobahn where it can outpace pretty much anything behind it from 100 km/h
upwards, just after that truck pulls back into the right lane.".....

Interestingly, Auto Motor und Sport TV continues to have stories related to the
crowded conditions of the vaunted German Autobahns. It seems that the wide open
stretches are fewer and fewer. The density of trucks has likewise increased the
number and severity of rear end accidents into these trucks and the trucker's
themselves are not as skilled/competent as in the past.

- -Kevin

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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 15:05:26 -0400
From: "Binder, Larry - Spine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] E53 white turn signal  indicators (full set) where is the best pl ace 
to purchase these?

Also, I am looking for 20' wheels for the X5.  Are the 4.6 wheels any good
or should I look into an aftermarket company?

Larry

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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 15:11:15 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] E53 white turn signal  indicators (full set) where is the best 
place to purchase these?

I don't know about any specific X5 issues, but if given the choice, go with
factory BMW wheels.
Gary Derian



> Also, I am looking for 20' wheels for the X5.  Are the 4.6 wheels any good
> or should I look into an aftermarket company?
>
> Larry
>

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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 20:13:58 +0100
From: "Andrew Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Too much power?

Bora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

"I have a C240/6 speed. And let me tell you that although it is a great car
to drive on the road, for the track it is terrible. Too many electronic
nannies
that can't be turned off and the clutch/brake/gas pedal setup leaves a lot
to be desired."

The articles I have read over the years of BMWs being track-tested have
mosly resulted in a reversal of fortune.  Cars tuned for the road, and
acknowledged thus, include BMW and Mercedes.  When track-tested they have
often failed to impress with respect to ostensibly more modest machinery.
Neither BMW (nor Mercedes) tune their cars for the track; the road is a far
bigger challenge.  This may be one reason why commentators rarely have a bad
word to say about BMW (or Mercedes) ride quality.  Of course, it's
relatively simple and cheap to tune a BMW - or any car - for the track.

Andy T

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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:13:20 -0700
From: "JSN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] How to measure injector duty cycle?

Hello -

Is there method to measure the duty cycle percentage of your injectors?
I'd like to do this myself so simple devices and / or layman's tools
appreciated if possible.  I'd suspect there are multi-thousand dollar
devices that can it - is that my only option?

I have an upgraded head on my M30 engine and am curious about the effects on
the stock injectors.

thx!

Jeff
90 535i

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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 15:38:36 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] How to measure injector duty cycle?

Connect a volt meter between the injector and the engine computer.  off=12V.
on=0V.  50% is 6v average.  Not counting the induced voltage spikes.

Gary Derian


> Hello -
>
> Is there method to measure the duty cycle percentage of your injectors?
> I'd like to do this myself so simple devices and / or layman's tools
> appreciated if possible.  I'd suspect there are multi-thousand dollar
> devices that can it - is that my only option?
>
> I have an upgraded head on my M30 engine and am curious about the effects
on
> the stock injectors.
>
> thx!
>
> Jeff
> 90 535i
>

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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:03:49 -0400
From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Merc manuals

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> >Actually, they do.  At least the SLK and CLK are available with
> >proper 6-speed manuals.
> >- - Rob
>
> Not quite AFAIK. At least in the US, the SLK and the C-class are the only
> Mercs available with manuals. The CLK is NOT available with a manual
tranny,
> although it would fix its weakest point if it was.

Okay, so what's that "next generation Corrado"-looking Merc?  That's the one
with a manual, right?

- - Rob

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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:29:54 -0400
From: "Binder, Larry - Spine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] What kind of soap is everyone using to wash their cars?  Is the Z ymol 
worth it? Any other suggestions?



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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 15:31:57 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] Merc manuals

"Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > >Actually, they do.  At least the SLK and CLK are available with
> > >proper 6-speed manuals.
> > >- - Rob
> > 
> > Not quite AFAIK. At least in the US, the SLK and the C-class are 
> > the only Mercs available with manuals. The CLK is NOT available 
> > with a manual tranny, although it would fix its weakest point if
> > it was.
> 
> Okay, so what's that "next generation Corrado"-looking Merc? 

You mean the 'sports coupe'?
Whatever is the TLA may be that Mercedes has assigned to it.

> That's the one with a manual, right?

Yep.
The 6 speed is about as common a sight on MB dealer lots as cloth seats on 
BMWs.

alex f

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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:17:04 -0700
From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] re:  Aux Fan (I want high speed only) was Fan

re:  Aux Fan (I want high speed only) was Fan:

     This can be implemented by snipping the high speed wire from the 
high temperature output of the switch and reconnecting the wire to the 
low temperature side of the switch.
     I did this in conjunction with removing the mechanical fan entirely.
On the //M3 I also got some more air to the radiator by removing the 
plastic cover that sits over the electric fan, and cutting out some of 
the plastic of the shroud that runs from behind the grill to the radiator.
     The temperature guage needle never reaches vertical now.  Before 
that it would sometimes barely get vertical on hot days in slow traffic. 
 Add a bottle of Redline Water Wetter to the radiator and you'll be all 
set under any temperature conditions on the street.

'jk

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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:54:21 -0700
From: "Kelvin Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] How to measure injector duty cycle?

        It'd be kind of hard to do without some kind of datalogging equipment or
engine management computer since you're probably only interested in WOT.  If
you're looking at the injectors, you're probably comtemplating upgrading
them which means WOT is the only time they'll really have any chance of
being maxed out.  It's basically a square-wave with a pulse-width of about
10-20 ms or so depending on injector size.
        Options are looking 1) looking at the injector signal with an o-scope with
the car on a dyno or with long probes or 2) accessing the engine management
system and looking at the injector pulsewidth there.  I don't know if any
products for option #2 exist for your specific application.

- - Kelvin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JSN
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 12:13 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [uuc] How to measure injector duty cycle?
>
>
> Hello -
>
> Is there method to measure the duty cycle percentage of your
> injectors?
> I'd like to do this myself so simple devices and / or layman's tools
> appreciated if possible.  I'd suspect there are multi-thousand dollar
> devices that can it - is that my only option?
>
> I have an upgraded head on my M30 engine and am curious about
> the effects on
> the stock injectors.
>
> thx!
>
> Jeff
> 90 535i
>

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