[uucdigest] Thursday, July 17 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6575
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Need BMW electronics guru (M20 to M50 conversion) Re: [uuc] Tire Pressures - some results and weight RE:[uuc] e39 fluids [uuc] Adding tranny fluid to old tranny E34 Re: [uuc] Adding tranny fluid to old tranny E34 [uuc] car covers- care and feeding Re: [uuc] E46 center armrest replacement panel Re: [uuc] car covers- care and feeding Re: [uuc] car covers- care and feeding [uuc] 6 SERIES HEATED SEAT QUESTION RE: [uuc] 6 SERIES HEATED SEAT QUESTION RE: [uuc] 6 SERIES HEATED SEAT QUESTION [uuc] E46 Car Cover Re: [uuc] Need BMW electronics guru (M20 to M50 conversion) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:29:41 -0700 From: Kurt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Need BMW electronics guru (M20 to M50 conversion) My appologies to those of you who have seen this on other lists, but I know there are few technicians here who might be able help me out. I just completed an M20 to M50 conversion on my '89 325is and I have some electrical problems. Basically any system that gets power through unloader relays k5 and k7 doesn't work or randomly works. I've tried new relays and I still get the same results. A friend of mine did my wiring harness conversion using the Orca CD as a guide. There is a spot in CD that says something to the effect of "this is the connection to the starter that is used for the unloader relays on some models. We will not be using it for this application." So my friend ignored it, not realizing that my '89 325is does have unloader relays. We left this connection on the E36 engine harness, but I'm guessing that it doesn't connect back to my unloader relays. Thanks to Gary and Tyler on the E30Twincam list I now have wiring diagrams for the start system on both the E36 and the E30. It looks like, all I have to do is make sure that blk/grn wire from the starter in the E36 harness is connected to the blk/grn wire that runs to the unloader relays in the E30 harness. However, before I do something completely stupid, I'm hoping that someone here has solved this exact problem already and can confirm that I'm doing the right thing. I should mention that I'm using the m20 starter and tranny. Thanks, Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 14:47:03 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Tire Pressures - some results and weight My only advice is tire tread temperatures is not the way to set tire pressures for cruising on the highway. It may be somewhat interesting but not terribly useful. Your pressures seem good enough so no harm done. I run 40 psi in the E34 and mid 30's in the E30. In general, higher pressure lets the tire last longer and protects the rim better against potholes. Do not exceed the maximum pressure branded on the tire sidewall. Gary Derian > I understand. Would you recommend another test to determine proper (or the > best) air pressure given the multitude of variables always present. Ride > comfort is too subjective. Waiting for the tread to wear to check for > unevenness is counter-intuitive to the main objective of proper tire > pressure = longer tire life. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:48:31 -0400 From: "Felix Vicente" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE:[uuc] e39 fluids > Trans- Redline d4atf is the way to go. I have been using it > for 50k with no > issues. I changed it after 30k it looked new. Will run this at least > 40k.There was some talk of using Royal Purple Syncromax but > the thread died > in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Diff.- Some have switched to redline some are staying with > the factory fill. Norman, you have a 528 with a COMPLETELY different tranny than Mike has in his 540/6. Redline makes some great fluids, but d4atf in the 6 speed is a quick way to difficult shifts. Mobil1 ATF or the Royal Purple Synchromax work excellent in the 6 speed. I have Redline in my diff. Hell, I'd use redline washer fluid if they made it. - -felix miami,fl 97 540/6 98 740 95 525 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:54:48 -0400 From: "Ryan and Dee Dee Brenneman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Adding tranny fluid to old tranny E34 Group I have recently purchased a 93 525 Touring with 200k on the clock. It was cheap but with some tlc it has turned into a decent car. The GM tranny is leaking a slight bit and I would like to top it off without changing the fluid. Wouldn't want to let all the imps and magic out of it. I figure if I can get 6 more months out of it then the 5sp swap will be more palatable to the SO. What fluid is likely in there? If you had to guess to add some type or brand which would you add? TIA Ryan Brenneman 93 525iT Hers 92 325i His track car 88 535iS spare(as soon as I sell this one of the others will break) 81 745i Turbo anyone? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:30:31 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Adding tranny fluid to old tranny E34 Use any brand of Dexron III ATF. Gary Derian > Group > > I have recently purchased a 93 525 Touring with 200k on the clock. It was > cheap but with some tlc it has turned into a decent car. The GM tranny is > leaking a slight bit and I would like to top it off without changing the > fluid. Wouldn't want to let all the imps and magic out of it. I figure if I > can get 6 more months out of it then the 5sp swap will be more palatable to > the SO. What fluid is likely in there? If you had to guess to add some type > or brand which would you add? TIA > > Ryan Brenneman > 93 525iT Hers > 92 325i His track car > 88 535iS spare(as soon as I sell this one of the others will break) > 81 745i Turbo anyone? > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:35:39 -0400 From: "Chris Pawlowicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] car covers- care and feeding hi guys I just bought a '99 Z3 and it came with a car cover.. I've never had a convertible before, nor a car cover- any tips or rules for using 'em? the car will be parked outside for the summer.. are car covers for inside storage only? or are they ok and desirable outside in the rain? I live downtown and cars do get dusty pretty quick. It's a BMW cover I think. How about alarm systems? I'm thinking the Stellar/Autoloc system with radar.. any comments for or against? I don't want some local guys to hack the wiring installing an Ungo or Clifford or something and the Stellar plugs into the factory harness. The BMW system is ok also but doesn't have motion sensor inside the car. thanks Chris Pawlowicz '99 Z3 2.8 (wee!) '89 325i - track rat/ winter beater '74 2002 - now for sale ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:10:54 +0100 From: "Andrew Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E46 center armrest replacement panel Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: "A friend with an E46 M3 wants to rid himself of the center armrest and said he's heard of a replacement panel to fill the resulting hole. I've looked at the ETK, either it's not listed or I just can't ID it. Anyone know the part number?" Early, low-spec E46s were available without armrest - the part I found is described as a "short console" and is for all E46 cars, including M. The numbers are 51 16 8 234 154 for black, 51 16 8 234 155 for beige, and 51 16 8 248 507 for grey. The rest of the bits should just transfer over. Andy T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:09:56 -0400 From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] car covers- care and feeding At 9:35 PM -0400 7/16/03, Chris Pawlowicz wrote: >the car will be parked outside for the summer.. are car covers for inside >storage only? or are they ok and desirable outside in the rain? I live >downtown and cars do get dusty pretty quick. It's a BMW cover I think. I'm not good at following my own advice but. . . You should not use a car cover when the car is dirty. I do because I would rather have light scratches from dirt over people brushing up against the car with keys or kids bicycle handle bars. Be careful in the winter. If the car is wet when you put on the cover it may freeze to the car. I've had a lot of luck removing a car cover after a snow. After a snow I brush the car off and let the sun melt the rest. But generally if the weather was going to be freezing rain and I knew I needed the car I would not use the car cover the night before. I also keep a large plastic bag in the car because when the car cover is wet I will place the cover in the bag and leave it in my trunk rather than drag it back into my house. There are car covers designed for inside use only. I doubt that is the one you have. I'm not wild about the covers that advertise BMW inside. - -- ...steven 1996 328ti 2003 MCS Ofest caravan http://www.happytogether.com/unofficialofest ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:38:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Howard Siegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] car covers- care and feeding Congrats on a nice buy! In a former life, I had a car cover and used it when the car was parked outside to keep the sun off the finish and interior. After a few years I stopped being so religious about it, but the finish and interior were still in very good condition after 16 years. I never used the cover when indoors or in a parking garage, but some folks do that too. As for rain, unless the cover was made out of a water repellent material, don't use it in the rain. If you don't get a chance to dry it (machine if possible, or air dried), it will mildew and rot. And when you take a sopping wet cover off the car you run the risk of scratches as you drag the grit accross the surface! Just my 2 cents. - - howard On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Chris Pawlowicz wrote: > > I just bought a '99 Z3 and it came with a car cover.. I've never had a > convertible before, nor a car cover- any tips or rules for using 'em? > > the car will be parked outside for the summer.. are car covers for inside > storage only? or are they ok and desirable outside in the rain? I live > downtown and cars do get dusty pretty quick. It's a BMW cover I think. - -- hsiegel~at~pobox~dot~com <*> Netcom Class of '93, RIP Netcom! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:29:08 -0700 From: "Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] 6 SERIES HEATED SEAT QUESTION Group, What 'part' of the heated seats on my M6 are supposed to heat? Is it the bottom cushions and back cushions? Just the back cushions? Just the bottom cushions? Any help would be appreciated. Chris 88 M6 89 M3 01 X5 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:49:59 -0400 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] 6 SERIES HEATED SEAT QUESTION Both bottom and back rest. Unfortunately, in your car the heater elements are sewn into the leather, which makes repairing them very expensive. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Marino > What 'part' of the heated seats on my M6 are supposed to heat? Is it > the bottom cushions and back cushions? Just the back cushions? Just the > bottom cushions? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:00:06 -0500 From: "Malcolm Reitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] 6 SERIES HEATED SEAT QUESTION Chris, I imagine they should heat the bottom and back cushions, just like all other BMW heated seats I'm familiar with. Malcolm '88 M5 - heated seats '98 328i - ditto - -----Original Message----- From: Chris Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] 6 SERIES HEATED SEAT QUESTION Group, What 'part' of the heated seats on my M6 are supposed to heat? Is it the bottom cushions and back cushions? Just the back cushions? Just the bottom cushions? Any help would be appreciated. Chris 88 M6 89 M3 01 X5 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:42:27 -0400 From: "carl sewell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E46 Car Cover Group: Sorry to dredge up old, dead horses, but I am in the process of buying a car cover for a new 330iPP. I have a cover for my E36 M3/4 that I am happy with but I can't recall where I got the danged thing: white Tyvec with a "fuury" inside. I would duplicate if I could. (I doubt this cover would fit an E46 330i.) So, I welcome any comments. TIA Carl Sewell Charlottesville VA e36 M3/4 CCA 151298 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:07:41 -0700 From: Kurt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Need BMW electronics guru (M20 to M50 conversion) Since nobody answered my question and I'm impatient, I went ahead and took a chance and clipped a wire from the small terminal on my starter to the unloader relays. Problems fixed! Now I have to see if the blk/grn wire runs out through a pin in the connector C101 next to the fuse box or if it runs via another route. Then I will need to pull the intake off so that I can get to the harness and solder in a connection between the small wire on the starter (which should be blk/grn also) to the wire in the fuse block ( probably via the pin connector ). Thanks again to Gary and Tyler for pointing me to the wiring diagrams and Ed for getting me on the right track when searching for the problem. Kurt Kurt Zimmerman wrote: > My appologies to those of you who have seen this on other lists, but > I know there are few technicians here who might be able help me out. > > I just completed an M20 to M50 conversion on my '89 325is and I have > some electrical problems. Basically any system that gets power through > unloader relays k5 and k7 doesn't work or randomly works. I've tried > new relays and I still get the same results. > > A friend of mine did my wiring harness conversion using the Orca CD as > a guide. There is a spot in CD that says something to the effect of > "this is the connection to the starter that is used for the unloader > relays on some models. We will not be using it for this > application." So my friend ignored it, not realizing that my '89 > 325is does have unloader relays. We left this connection on the E36 > engine harness, but I'm guessing that it doesn't connect back to my > unloader relays. > > Thanks to Gary and Tyler on the E30Twincam list I now have wiring > diagrams for the start system on both the E36 and the E30. It looks > like, all I have to do is make sure that blk/grn wire from the starter > in the E36 harness is connected to the blk/grn wire that runs to the > unloader relays in the E30 harness. > > However, before I do something completely stupid, I'm hoping that > someone here has solved this exact problem already and can confirm > that I'm doing the right thing. > I should mention that I'm using the m20 starter and tranny. > > Thanks, > > Kurt > > > > > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6575 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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