[uucdigest] Friday, August 1 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6622
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RE: [uuc] M2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:29:39 -0700 From: Bora Akyol (BMW) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] M2 Compared to the E30 M3, the E36 M3 feels like a tank (Owned both at the same time). I want BMW to make a pure sports sedan much like the E30 M3 again. I know S2000 exists, but I am sort of attached to having a Roundel on the hood and the trunk and different type of community is attracted to Honda's. I don't want them to make a 3800 lb, V8 powered car and then put M3 on it. Because next up, we will end up with a 4300 lb car with M5 on it and you get my drift. If I want a luxury sports tourer, I would buy a Jaguar XJR (the new one), if I see an M badge on the car, I want it to be a raw sporting machine, and whomever called the street version of E46 M3 (intense), really? You should drive an E30 M3 or an S2K or a Miata and even the MCS to feel what intense feels like. E46 M3 is a wonderful car, a showcase of BMW engine technology, but it needs to lose 400-500 lbs to be an intense car. Bora On Thursday, Jul 31, 2003, at 13:53 US/Pacific, Robinson, Lee wrote: >> WAY too many E36 M3's on the roads IMHO. Could the reason >> that you don't >> see as many E46's is because they are not as old as the E36? >> When the E36's came around, there were alot more E30 M3's on the road. >> After about 3 or 4 years, the E30's almost disappeared. I >> think the E36's >> will be more prevalent due to the fact that they built more of them. > > Of course there are so many E36's on the road. It's a fantastic car. > It's > the perfect blend of performance and basic daily practicality. On top > of > that, it's damn fast. That being said, everybody (on both sides of the > pond) seems to indicate that the E46 is the best of the M3s, whereas > previsouly there was a rift with US press praising the E36 & Europe > praising > the E30. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:35:16 -0700 From: "Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] WANTED: M ROADSTER FRONT-END PIECES Group, I'm helping put a 98 M Roadster back together and need the following parts: a hood (any color will do), front fenders (any color will do), headlights, spoilers and I'll also need two all-black seats for the same car. Anyone have any of these parts? Chris 88 M6 89 M3 http://www.inlacal.com 01 X5 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 08:42:18 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Da** CARFAX Well, as long as we're sharing Carfax horror stories, here's mine again. Three years ago I went in for my every-2-years smog test. The mileage was something like 86663. The work order says the mileage was 86663. But the tech entering the data into the smog test computer entered 8663 - one fewer 6's. When I noticed it later in the day, I went back and asked to have it corrected. He said it was no big deal, since no one looked at it anyway. He didn't correct it. That was before Carfax was a big thing and I had no idea that, years later, my car would be reported as having an odometer roll-back. Of course, I have documentation, but I'm sure this is going to be a hassle when I sell the car. All the more reason to just turn it into a club racer when the time comes, eh? Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:03:21 -0500 >From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [uuc] Da** CARFAX > >Let me know what you found out - for grins I ran a CarFax on my 330i >and the first item is: > >Exported from: >Bahrain >Imported to: >Charleston, SC > >I am pretty sure my car was never in Bahrain (it was purchased new >with no miles) and it sure looks strange on the CarFax :-) > >Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 11:47:49 -0400 From: Jean Welter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Damn CARFAX At 09:46 2003-08-01 -0400, you wrote: > > Given that erroneous negative information in a report could > > decrease the sale value of a car, I'm surprised that CARFAX > > doesn't provide an easier way for owners to correct errors, > > such as that for credit report errors. > >I'll have to try this. I think the response from CARFAX will be something >like "Dear sir, thanks for your question. Screw you, we don't care, it >doesn't affect us" Maybe the guys at CARFAX pay $500 for a car wash? > >I could probably get it changed, but I'm sure there would be considerable >hoop jumping-through. I've been fortunate not to have a problem on my >credit reports, but know people who have & it's hell to get something wrong >that should've never been there taken off. I assume CARFAX would be about >the same. Pretty close. A couple of years ago, my M3 sustained minor wheel and suspension damage (repaired by Brett, thanks!) at a construction site. When I inquired as to why Carfax currently lists this event as a police report of "Vehicle involved in crash with another motor vehicle", here's the boilerplate I got back: >In the event that an owner disputes an accident record on a CARFAX Report, >the subject vehicle's owner may submit supporting documentation that >proves this record is in error. We require that the owner provide a copy >of the police report filed with the state DMV showing that the referenced >vehicle was not involved in the accident or did not sustain any damage. >To obtain additional accident information you will need to contact the >appropriate police entity. Please note that a number of types of police >organizations may have jurisdiction in the area in question. You may have >to inquire with a number of departments. >I have attached the paperwork required to amend the report. It is in Word >format. If this does not work for you, please let me know. >We are sorry for any inconvenience this may cause for you and do >appreciate your understanding and cooperation. In other words, in their opinion, it's on us to prove they are wrong. I especially appreciated the one about "You may have to inquire with a number of departments." In my spare time, I suppose. FWIW, I ran Carfaxen on my 4 vehicles; the reports on 3 of them contained substantive and verifiable inaccuracies and/or omissions. I'm not impressed. Anyway... since, like you said, erroneous negative information in a report could decrease the resale value of a car, it seems like something a lawyer or two ought to get involved in. Jean '95 M3 (no collisions) '00 323iT '97 VW Golf '96 VW Passat GLX (FS - got to make room in the driveway) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 10:36:15 -0700 From: "Kit Wetzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E34 headlight question I'm new to E34s. The 90 525i that I just bought has the sealed beam headlights. Does anyone know if the Sylvania X5006 sealed beam upgrade kit will work on this car? It's an HID kit, including lamps and housings for $449. Not bad! -kit ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:50:19 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E34 headlight question Are you sure? No E34 came with sealed beams. Gary Derian > I'm new to E34s. The 90 525i that I just bought has the sealed beam > headlights. Does anyone know if the Sylvania X5006 sealed beam upgrade kit > will work on this car? It's an HID kit, including lamps and housings for > $449. Not bad! > > -kit > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 14:17:08 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] MZ3 Short Shifter Installed in Ti, some questions? I successfully installed an MZ3 shift lever in my 1995 Club Sport and love it so far. I thought the UUC or even the Z3 1.9 was short, the MZ3 is like an MGs. Sitting in the car at a stop and shifting thru the gears it feels a bit clunky, like going thru a gated box. With the rubber boot off and looking thru the opening it sounds clunky too. Driving and shifting - smooth and very short, doesn't feel clunky and doesn't sound clunky. First step. Measure the angles in the x and y direction for bending. Did this in AutoCAD from Ron's pictures and others Second step. Make clamping jig and leverage arm for bending. One piece of 1/4" thick 2" square tube works for the jig. Cut it down the middle so you have two C-channel halves, clamp together and drill an 11mm holes thru - presto. The leverage arm was a hand railing pipe cut to about 24" long. Drilled holes thru at 5", welded two nuts on the outside of the holes, used two bolts threaded thru the nuts to secure shift lever. Third Step. Bend. Using a simple diagram with a 7degree angle and 3degree angle, I matched the lever to the paper lines until satisfied. Four Step. Bend Selector rod about 1/2" or so downwards using the three sockets and vice clamp method. Duck tape is a must here. Here is where I found something weird. My Ti has a 2.5L M50 transplant, but the Ti transmission and for some reason the selector rod had already been modified. The shifter that I took out was definitely a Ti shifter, but the selector rod had been cut in half, shortened, and welded back together. I would say from looking at the Ti selector rod I bought but didn't use the difference in length was an 1" or more. This is where I am puzzled. Would the 2.5L move the position of the transmission, therefore requiring the selector rod to be shortened? If not, wouldn't the shortened rod matched with the OEM lever have been very noticeable, ie the lever sitting way back, like in third gear for neutral? Phil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 14:43:51 -0400 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] M2 Preach on brother Bora!!!!! > > Compared to the E30 M3, the E36 M3 feels like a tank (Owned > both at the > same time). > > I want BMW to make a pure sports sedan much like the E30 M3 again. > I know S2000 exists, but I am sort of attached to having a Roundel on > the hood > and the trunk and different type of community is attracted to Honda's. But you already have an E30 M3......The S2000 is a great car. It really is, and it's similar to the M3 in that it's the kind of car that on a track or autocross that can readily beat cars that seem to have power, tire and suspension advantages. That's one of the things that make these buzz boxes cool. The Honda has even less torque than the M3--if that bothers you. > > I don't want them to make a 3800 lb, V8 powered car and then > put M3 on > it. > Because next up, we will end up with a 4300 lb car with M5 on it and > you get my drift. And I think BMW doesn't care, as you are in the VAST minority of their new car customer base. Look at it this way, at least you're in their possible customer base.....I'm in their third, fourth owner customer base. Most people who buy BMWs don't (actually can't) appreciate true performance anyway--I bet most will never see redline or threshold braking or drift. In truth, the M3 was sort of unique, even for M cars. M cars (E24/28--yea, I know there was an E12 too) offered outrageous performance, but also included every luxury an automobile could have. The M3 was a staunch departure, and it's only in the US that they all came loaded, but the idea was only homologation. > > If I want a luxury sports tourer, I would buy a Jaguar XJR (the new > one), > if I see an M badge on the car, I want it to be a raw > sporting machine, > and whomever > called the street version of E46 M3 (intense), really? You > should drive > an E30 M3 or an S2K or a Miata and even the MCS to feel what intense > feels like. Have an 88 M3 in the garage......you'll have to pry the keys from my cold, dead hands. I have to admit, I DO like the XJR. I just like the idea of doing unruly burnouts in an $80k luxury car. Plus it looks REALLY nice. I might also be tempted by the S8 (not the new generi-Audi body though). Well, tempted in like 10 years when I can have one. I was just referring to some articles I read recently that compared all three versions. One from a British Mag & one form a German Mag (which still takes me a while to get through). I think most US mags have forgotten there was an M3 before 95. If you want a car like that, I think you're going to have to get over having the blue&white propeller....... > > E46 M3 is a wonderful car, a showcase of BMW engine > technology, but it > needs to lose > 400-500 lbs to be an intense car. Agreed. If the fighting weight was closer to the 3000-3100 lb limit (which is less than an E36), it might stand a chance on the track against a Z06. In their current guise the E46's are just too heavy to hang with that similarly priced car. Even I was able to hang with an instructor-driven E46 in my E30. Sure, he'd pull me on the straights, but I'd catch him under braking & through corners--that 600-700lbs is a LOT of extra weight to manage. > > Bora Lee ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6622 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | |==================================================== | Turner Motorsport Inc . 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