[uucdigest] Tuesday, August 5 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6627
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Need advice with Race car radios RE: [uuc] Insurance [uuc] cluster with 55 miles!!!!! for sale E30 325 RE: [uuc] Please recycle your BMW RE: [uuc] Please recycle your BMW Re: [uuc] <E30> differential repair questions RE: [uuc] Please recycle your BMW Re: [uuc] <E30> differential repair questions RE: [uuc] <E30> differential repair questions RE: [uuc] Please recycle your BMW Re: [uuc] <E30> differential repair questions RE: [uuc] <E30> differential repair questions ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:33:14 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Need advice with Race car radios So, our little group of track car drivers is looking to add car-to-car communications. This will make it easier for us to find each other on the track, not to mention pass along some advice (as well as trash talkin', if needed). We tried using headsets with FRS handhelds, but it was pretty hard to hear (headsets and mics slid into helmets), and range was not great. So, looking for any advice as to systems to consider, as well as good sources for the equipment. Racing Electronics seems to be the dominant player in this game. But we don't need full racing systems. Maybe a headset or ear set plugged into a "real" handset? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! vty, - --Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:41:28 -0400 From: Pat Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Insurance I believe it is through BMW NA not BMW CCA. Go to http://www.bmwusa.com and under financial services you'll see insurance. the webpage is being updated for your inconvenience but you could contact them for a direct link to the program. I would suspect it is one office or one agent of Chubb writing the program. I don't recall it being a discount program but it never hurts to look. The best (lower premiums) have been coming from local financial institutions who are pairing up with insurers. Pat Green Acordia of MI BMW CCA Risk Management Committee - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Baker Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:11 AM To: UUC Digest Subject: [uuc] Insurance Hello all, Am I correct in recalling that Chubb insurance offers a discount for CCA members? Anybody have a phone number, or do I just call a local agent? Or am I completely wrong? Thanks, Chris B. '94 325i ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 08:41:48 -0700 From: "Tim Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] cluster with 55 miles!!!!! for sale E30 325 I have a cluster with only 55 miles on it for sale. YES, 55 MILES, NOTTTTT 55K. Its for a 325 with "eta" motor. 5000 rpm tach. I replaced the broken gears in it and re-set it back to zero and then drove it for 55 miles total to test it out. Everything works perfect. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6755&item=2426372652 Tim Ng 95 E36 M3 BzznM3 92 E30 325ic M-tech convetible 91 E30 M3 street car 88 E30 M3 Track car 93 Chevy Blazer 2 dr. tow vehicle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:54:02 -0400 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Please recycle your BMW I would think you would notice some remnants of an occupant....... It doesn't make sense how the car would've squeezed through the tree & then started to widen out again. It almost looks like it would've have to have been dropped on the tree from above. Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: Pharr, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:32 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [uuc] Please recycle your BMW > > > There don't appear to be any skidmarks in the grass around > the tree and > the tree itself seems to have held up amazingly well in what > would have > had to have been quite an impact. I'm going to go out on a > limb and say > this is art, not an accident scene. > > --Jeff > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ben keyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:51 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [uuc] Please recycle your BMW > > > > Matt wrote: > > > > > Definitely is (or was) not an E36 compact. > > > > I agree. I think it's a European Escort, perhaps a > Cosworth if it got > > going at high enough speed to kill itself like that. note the 4-lug > wheel. > > > > I wonder whether it's some sort of anti-drunk driving exhibit like > > when they park wrecked cars in front of high schools around > > prom time. > > > > there is a lot of the car which has been carted away from > the scene of > > the accident as well, but what's left is pretty comprehensively > > mangled. > > > > > > > > Ben > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 12:15:55 -0400 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Please recycle your BMW Ha! "Go out on a limb"!! Good one, Jeff! - -Jay easily amused wrapping his mind around punny quips *********** > There don't appear to be any skidmarks in the grass around the tree and > the tree itself seems to have held up amazingly well in what would have > had to have been quite an impact. I'm going to go out on a limb and say > this is art, not an accident scene. > > --Jeff > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ben keyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:51 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [uuc] Please recycle your BMW > > > > Matt wrote: > > > > > Definitely is (or was) not an E36 compact. > > > > I agree. I think it's a European Escort, perhaps a Cosworth if it got > > going at high enough speed to kill itself like that. note the 4-lug > wheel. > > > > I wonder whether it's some sort of anti-drunk driving exhibit like > > when they park wrecked cars in front of high schools around > > prom time. > > > > there is a lot of the car which has been carted away from the scene of > > the accident as well, but what's left is pretty comprehensively > > mangled. > > > > > > > > Ben > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:59:08 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> differential repair questions Does the input go crunch crunch when turned? The stiff output shafts may be signs of a worn limited slip. Gary Derian > I've got an iX rear differential that may have some problems and I'm > trying to decide if I should dive into it myself. > > Problems: > 1. Leaky. Probably an output shaft seal. I assume these seals are > easy to replace? > > 2. Too much force is required to rotate the input shaft. The area is a > bit rusty so it may just need a good cleaning or perhaps a new input > shaft bearing? How easy are these bearings to replace for a reasonably > experienced DIY'er? > > 3. Too much force is required to rotate the output flanges in opposite > directions. I can rotate them by hand but just barely. I have another > rear iX differential to compare it to and it requires much less force. > I guess it could be the other diff that has the problem. Is there an > easy way to bench test these lockup rates? And assuming I can determine > which one is bad, is there anything internal I can fix? Given that it > has been leaking, perhaps low fluid level could explain the symptom? > > > As always, thanks for the advice, > > --Jeff Pharr > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 12:37:44 -0400 From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Please recycle your BMW I'm going to have to agree on that one. The M-Coupe was way better off and it broke a pretty hefty light pole. The tree is probably stronger, but still. This thing (Escort or whatever it is) looks like it was literally wrapped around the tree. There is some damage to the tree, but there is a lot of car missing too. If anyone figures out the story, please share. I am baffled as to how it was done. Stan > Jeff Pharr wrote: > > There don't appear to be any skidmarks in the grass around the tree and > the tree itself seems to have held up amazingly well in what would have > had to have been quite an impact. I'm going to go out on a limb and say > this is art, not an accident scene. > > - --Jeff > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 12:41:42 -0400 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> differential repair questions Gary Derian wrote: > Does the input go crunch crunch when turned? The stiff output shafts may be > signs of a worn limited slip. I swapped diff covers between the two E30 diffs I have on Sunday. one is a 2.93 LS, which was apparently freshly re-built by Zionsville prior to being put into the car in ~'99. it turns very easily with the from the input shaft side & has "90# break-away" or something like that written on the big visible part of the diff. the other is a 3.46 (gearset originally from an E24 IIRC) which was purchased from Steve Haygood for the euro-motored car. this one doesn't turn nearly as easily from the input shaft side. does this mean anything ? how should I test the 3.46 prior to putting it into the track car with the euro motor ? should I just send it off to Brett to have it re-built ? Ben ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 12:56:29 -0400 From: "Pharr, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] <E30> differential repair questions No crunch. Rotation is smooth, quiet, and even, but very stiff. With regard to the output shafts, no noise there either. I would have thought that a worn limited slip would have resulted in making it easer to turn the flanges in opposite directions. Recall also that this is an iX differential so it supposedly has some sort of viscous fluid limited slip. As long as there is no leakage, it seems like there would be effectively zero wear. - --Jeff I would have though that > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Derian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> differential repair questions > > Does the input go crunch crunch when turned? The stiff output shafts may > be > signs of a worn limited slip. > > Gary Derian > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:15:43 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [uuc] Please recycle your BMW To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: bcc: Subject: RE: [uuc] Please recycle your BMW Stan wrote: >If anyone figures out the story, please share. I >am baffled as to how it was done. Photoshop? :-) Carlos. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 10:18:42 -0700 From: Kurt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> differential repair questions I thought that the iX rear diff is just a standard diff. Its the center diff that is viscous. No? Kurt Pharr, Jeff wrote: >No crunch. Rotation is smooth, quiet, and even, but very stiff. > >With regard to the output shafts, no noise there either. I would have >thought that a worn limited slip would have resulted in making it easer >to turn the flanges in opposite directions. > >Recall also that this is an iX differential so it supposedly has some >sort of viscous fluid limited slip. As long as there is no leakage, it >seems like there would be effectively zero wear. > >--Jeff > >I would have though that > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Gary Derian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:59 AM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> differential repair questions >> >>Does the input go crunch crunch when turned? The stiff output shafts >> >> >may > > >>be >>signs of a worn limited slip. >> >>Gary Derian >> >> >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:31:31 -0400 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] <E30> differential repair questions The iX diff has a viscous coupling, but it's like the E46 M3 unit, in that the viscous coupling creates the pressure that is applied to the clutch plates. It is still a wear unit. It's impossible to tell from a description if it's really too hard to turn the pinion or not. These diffs, when fully assembled, to take some effort to turn. How much is *some* is what the question is. Difficulty in turning the output shafts in opposite directions is to be expected with limited slip. Not necessarily sign of a problem. I'd fix any oil leaks, bolt it in and go see what happens. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pharr, Jeff > No crunch. Rotation is smooth, quiet, and even, but very stiff. > > With regard to the output shafts, no noise there either. I would have > thought that a worn limited slip would have resulted in making it easer > to turn the flanges in opposite directions. > > Recall also that this is an iX differential so it supposedly has some > sort of viscous fluid limited slip. As long as there is no leakage, it > seems like there would be effectively zero wear. ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6627 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | |==================================================== | Turner Motorsport Inc . 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