[uucdigest] Tuesday, August 19 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6673
_________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.bmwdatabase.com | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] Defensive Driving School in the Bay Area? Re: [uuc] Shifter for 320i transmission RE: [uuc] E9 Coupe Information Re: [uuc] Book repair charges - WAS Central Locking Question Re: [uuc] E34 transmission magnet [uuc] parts sources? [uuc] E30 fuel tank RE: [uuc] parts sources? Re: [uuc] parts sources? Re: [uuc] E30 fuel tank Re: [uuc] E30 fuel tank and Re: [uuc] parts source? mix and match [uuc] Re: e30 exhaust [uuc] RE: M30 valve noise ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 21:38:39 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Defensive Driving School in the Bay Area? At 08:10 AM 8/18/03, Stan Jackson Jr. talked about: >But it appears that GGC requires BMW CCA membership. And you must have a >BMW to participate (unless your Bimmer is in the shop). Unfortunately, she >fails on both accounts. I guess you missed what Marco said - with a BMW CCA membership a non-BMW is welcome. It's been a while since I've been to a GGC Car Control Clinic, but I've seen non-BMWs there. I bet you could get a definitive answer from emailing either: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Jim Bassett ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 21:41:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Shifter for 320i transmission - --- Jason Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there an > aftermarket shit kit I can get that will make it so > that I can be sure of the gear I'm in. <snip> > Thanks for all input. > > Jason Not sure what you're looking for here, Jason, but there's a product called "Smooth Move" that might help you out. Tongue firmly in cheek, tammer __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 01:02:24 -0400 From: "Josh Coltrane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] E9 Coupe Information Send him to the CS Registry folks and list at: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/ - -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 4:47 PM To: BMW BMW BMW BMW Subject: [uuc] E9 Coupe Information I ran in to a guy I have not seen for years at Laguna Seca this weekend and he told me he just bought a "fixer upper" E9 coupe. Does anyone know of a good coupe specific or senior 6 e-mail lists? We were talking about wheels for the coupe and my friend asked If I knew if BMW ever sold a 15 inch Turbine/Alpina style five lug wheel. On a related note did Alpina ever sell cars with "5 lug" 15 inch wheels (I know Alpina made 15 inch "4 lug" wheels since I had a set on my old E21 323i). Kevin Kelly BMW CCA 50039 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 21:55:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Book repair charges - WAS Central Locking Question I understand book charges and don't mind them for the most part. Some customer is always going to bring in a car--at least in the rust belt--where it'll take you 25 minutes just to get the wheels off. So a job takes less than book time on your well-maintained car, with anti-seize in the right places and frequent inspections. Joe Schmoe's car might cost an extra couple hours for that rounded bolt. It's a way for shops to cover their asses when the unexpected comes up. I don't like being charged full book rate for a "while you're in there" repair, that really only costs them an extra 10 minutes 'cause so much is apart already. tammer <--dealers for parts, indies for jobs i can't do - --- Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A guy I know had his 7 series into the local BMW dealer > for out of > warranty repairs. He dropped it off at 8:00am and picked > it up at 4:00pm. > > Looking at the bill he was charged for 10 hours or so of > labor (I can't > remember the exact numbers - but it was 2-3 hours more > than the time > the dealer had the car). > > He asked how many mechanics had worked on the car - the > answer was one. > > He asked how they could work on it longer that it was in > their possession - > the answer was that he was charged the book rate and this > his mechanic > (lucky for him) was faster than the book time. If it had > taken longer, then > he would have paid the same (they said). > > I would not mind having a good mechanic that can fix my > car in less time > that the books calls for. But it would SEEM tempting to > the mechanics to > rush through all the jobs. Do 12 hours worth of work in 8 > hours and make > 50% more money. > > Is this NORMAL for BMW dealers? > > Dennis > > At 11:19 PM 08/18/2003 +0100, Andrew Thomas wrote: > >Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > I hesitated to bring up the dealer part too, as I > didn't want my first > > > post to stir up problems and/or be whiney. I was > in shock > > > when I was > > > quoted $179, and when I pressed him on it, his > response was "well, the > > > tech has to take the wheel off". :( He also quoted > > > something like $485 > > > for replacing the lower control arm bushings. When I > asked > > > him whether > > > he was sure those weren't warranty items, he came > back and > > > said yes. It > > > sounds like these are fairly commonly replaced items > on E46s, > > > but is it > > > questionable whether they're warranty or customer pay > items? > > > >I inferred from Josh's post that this dealer was in the > metropolitan area of > >Atlanta. Egregious charges are not unfamiliar coming > from a dealer in the > >centre of town whose customer base is perhaps less > likely to quibble. I > >used to think that there was a BMW standard way of > dealing with warranty vs > >out-of-warranty remedial work but I have found that > dealers out of town are > >more likely to cover something under the warranty - or > extend goodwill to > >the customer - than a dealer in the city. > > > >I imagine this is partly to do with the value of > warranty work vs. the cost > >of labour inside and outside of the metropolitan area, > and the simple law of > >supply and demand. > > > >Andy T > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 09:16:52 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E34 transmission magnet That's pretty normal. Gary Derian > A4S 310R > 100,000 miles (almost) > New to me - no service records (but it looked so good I bought it anyway) > Transmission had slight drip when I got it - tightened the sump and the leak > stopped. Shifting was less than perfect, so I thought I'd change juice and > screen. > > Here's what the magnet looked like. > > http://www.cheap-tracks.com/misc/magnet.jpg > > Should I be worried? > I know they put the magnet in there for a reason, but this just seems like a > lot of metal. > > Mobil 1 ATF - it shifts better now. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:26:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark J. Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] parts sources? Howdy, With all this talk of dealers and independents and such... I do all my own maintenance, and anything I can't do I do with one of my friend's who's an honest to god mechanic. :-) Where's the best place to buy parts? I've got the parts cd's, so I can just write up a list of part numbers and fax it in if need be... Are there anyone online wholesalers or whatever? Thanks! Mark (on the hit list next... Tranny tailshaft seal. _That_ looks like its got the potential to suck... :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:30:20 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E30 fuel tank I have an E30 with a leaky fuel tank. Does someone have a link for replacement tanks? I remember a Canadian source but can't find it. Gary Derian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:42:18 -0400 From: "Chris Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] parts sources? I get all my parts from Jack Money, elephantmotorsports.com. From what I've seen he's cheaper than the online wholesalers, and you get authentic BMW parts. I think his website is being updated, but you can at least get his phone number from it. Chris B. '94 325i <---- will be getting some parts from Jack this week - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark J. Andy Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] parts sources? Howdy, With all this talk of dealers and independents and such... I do all my own maintenance, and anything I can't do I do with one of my friend's who's an honest to god mechanic. :-) Where's the best place to buy parts? I've got the parts cd's, so I can just write up a list of part numbers and fax it in if need be... Are there anyone online wholesalers or whatever? Thanks! Mark (on the hit list next... Tranny tailshaft seal. _That_ looks like its got the potential to suck... :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 08:20:20 -0700 From: Rex Tener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] parts sources? At 10:26 AM 8/19/2003 -0400, Mark J. Andy wrote: >Where's the best place to buy parts? I've got the parts cd's, so I can >just write up a list of part numbers and fax it in if need be... Are >there anyone online wholesalers or whatever? Hi Mark, I have had good luck with Circle BMW, Hendrick BMW, and Pacific BMW. There is a BMW dealer in Florida, I think it is Paul at South Motors. I have mostly been using Pacific BMW lately because a I am only 1 to 2 UPS days away from them in California and they have been very responsive via e-mail. Have fun, - -- Rex Tener [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 11:30:40 -0400 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 fuel tank Gary, Neil D. replaced a fuel tank on one of his E30s not too long ago. I recall him talking about a good used one from a source in Atlanta. Knowing him, he investigated other possibilities... may still have the contact info. Jay re: Chris Baker's remarks... me thinks Jack may be busier than usual with family stuff this week *** > I have an E30 with a leaky fuel tank. Does someone have a link for > replacement tanks? I remember a Canadian source but can't find it. > Gary Derian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 11:37:04 -0400 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 fuel tank and Re: [uuc] parts source? mix and match Gary, Neil, Chris, Mark, et al. Color me confused. Mr. Baker's response was not to Mr. Derian's inquiry, but rather to Mr. Andy's. I inadvertantly wove the threads together... My comments re: Neil D. still stand for Gary. Please disregard the unlabeled "p.s." on the last message -- unless you were reading Mark's 'parts source' thread. Sheesh. I should just go do my work. Jay ***** > I have an E30 with a leaky fuel tank. Does someone have a link for > replacement tanks? I remember a Canadian source but can't find it. > Gary Derian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 09:26:30 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: e30 exhaust Dave, I bought my '90 325i in 1996. Bill Arnold (independent, San Rafael CA, no affiliation, great service) pointed out the hole in the muffler. He also pounded on the bottom of the cat and we heard loose stuff rattling around in there. He said the insides of the cat were breaking up and could eventually head south and plug up the muffler. I priced a cat and muffler. After the shock wore off, I decided to just keep driving the car until either the hole got too big or the muffler got plugged up with cat innards. That was 7 years ago and I'm still driving with the same components in place. There has been no obvious problem. Maybe I'm on borrowed time, maybe there was really nothing to worry about, who knows? Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA 1990 325i 1991 325iA >Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:58:36 -0400 >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [uuc] e30 exhaust > >After taking the cat back system off my 84 325e, it didn't look bad at >all. The welds look good, there is not rust on the cans or the pipes >and all hangers are sturdy and accounted for. the only thing is I >hear a rattling of what sounds like tiny beads of something in the final >muffler. Is this thebaffles of the muffler otting from the inside or >substrate from my now defunct catalytic converter? > >Either way, would it hurt to put it back on? > >I have a new Eberspaecher system for it, but I wouldn't mind putting the >$200 toward some new tires. > >Thanks all. > >Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:03:12 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] RE: M30 valve noise Are the valves on an M30 expected to remain claccity even after warm up if adjusted to 14thousands? I may have to re-do them. I'm thinking I didn't get to the lowest point on the circle on one or two. Also the weather was very hot (in the 90's) and I wonder if backing down to 0.012 or 0.013 would have been appropriate on a cold motor. - -Kevin ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6673 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | |==================================================== | Turner Motorsport Inc . 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