[uucdigest]         Tuesday, August 19 2003         Volume 03 : Number 6674



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] Tires: comment and solicitation
       Re: [uuc] Shifter for 320i transmission
       Re: [uuc] Shifter for 320i transmission
       [uuc] M3 is 99% ordinary?
       [uuc] slightly OT: autocross workers
       Re: [uuc] Defensive Driving School in the Bay Area?
       Re: [uuc] slightly OT: autocross workers
       [uuc] 02 mit 5 speed
       Re: [uuc] slightly OT: autocross workers

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:18:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: Clarence Behrend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Tires: comment and solicitation

Comment:  There was a recent thread on high-end tires, but I thought
somebody might care to hearan opinion of a not-cutting-edge-newest tire.  I'm closing 
out a third
summer on the BridgestonePotenza 730s on my '87 325.  I have loved these tires.  They 
have done
well in the rain, verypredictable on the dry; performed and held up great at the 
track.  For
whatever reason,TireRack doesn't list them available in my size anymore, but other 
places
seem to have them.Unless someone convinces me otherwise (and cost plays a role), I'll 
be
getting anotherset.

Solicitation:  Need to get a set of tires for the '93 525iT.  They will be
all-season.The car is not driven aggressively, but we would like excellent wet and
respectable snowtraction.  I like the Nokian WRs, but $125 each is really on the high 
end.
 Wondering if anybodyhas had experience w/the Continental ContiExtremeContact ($75/ea 
at
TireRack) or hasanother suggestion of a good tire for this car.

TIA

Clarence
West Bend, WI

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:35:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Shifter for 320i transmission

I'm going to blame the laptop keyboard, since it is
easier to do that than to blame myself for the bad
habit of not reading my emails prior to sending them.

I still wouldn't mind any comment about whether the
sloppiness is a function of the shifter unit or the
transmission.  My understanding of transmissions is
pretty lacking.

Thanks!

- --- Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- Jason Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there an
> > aftermarket shit kit I can get that will make it
> so
> > that I can be sure of the gear I'm in.  
> <snip>
> > Thanks for all input.
> > 
> > Jason
> 
> Not sure what you're looking for here, Jason, but
> there's a
> product called "Smooth Move" that might help you
> out.
> 
> Tongue firmly in cheek,
> tammer 

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 11:09:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Shifter for 320i transmission

Slop, as in a lot of side-to-side play, is in the shifter
(worn bushings).  Difficulty engaging a gear is more likely
to be in the transmission (worn synchros).  Another thing
to consider, in addition to shifter slop, is the condition
of the transmission mounts, especially if there are any oil
leaks in the vicinity.

tammer

- --- Jason Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm going to blame the laptop keyboard, since it is
> easier to do that than to blame myself for the bad
> habit of not reading my emails prior to sending them.
> 
> I still wouldn't mind any comment about whether the
> sloppiness is a function of the shifter unit or the
> transmission.  My understanding of transmissions is
> pretty lacking.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> --- Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- Jason Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Is there an
> > > aftermarket shit kit I can get that will make it
> > so
> > > that I can be sure of the gear I'm in.  
> > <snip>
> > > Thanks for all input.
> > > 
> > > Jason
> > 
> > Not sure what you're looking for here, Jason, but
> > there's a
> > product called "Smooth Move" that might help you
> > out.
> > 
> > Tongue firmly in cheek,
> > tammer 
> 


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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 11:18:05 -0700
From: "Tim Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] M3 is 99% ordinary?

Neil, I don't agree with you on this "99% of the car is just ordinary."
statement. I am going to reflect on the little I know of the E34 M5 that
you own and did an engine rebuild twice yourself on. If you say the E30 m3
is 99% ordinary, then you are saying that the S14 engine, the flared fender
and caped body, the different geometery suspension setting... are worth
only 1% of that car. I think ANY "S" motor is worth a little more than
that. I am sure you agree your S38 motor in your M5 is NOT an M30 with 4
valves? right? ALso if you say the E30 m3 is 99% ordinary as in regular
e30, then is your 1992 e34 M5(rare car)just 99% the same as a e34 535i? I
don't think so.
I do agree that suspension, electrical, basic body harware.... are the same
as other E30 AND E28s BUT its very different in MANY sense. I would safely
say the E30 m3 is maybe 40% same as a E30 325is. The other 60% is what's so
special about a limited production car.

>Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:38:59 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [uuc] Atlanta Indep. shops and dealers

>Working on the E30 M3 and the S14 is NOT that big a
>deal. A dealership should know how to deal with it
>quite easily. If not, they should be able to
>reference a few specs and such and apply general
>principles. Yes, there are unique issues that they
>may not be able to find (like blowing clear the
>tensioner oil feed bore, etc.), but the suspension is
>not such an issue. 99% of the car is just ordinary.

Tim Ng
95 E36 M3 BzznM3
92 E30 325ic M-tech convetible 
91 E30 M3 street car
88 E30 M3 Track car
93 Chevy Blazer 2 dr. tow vehicle

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 09:37:51 -1000
From: Jay G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] slightly OT: autocross workers

hey gruppe...i'm one of the "mini-officials" at our local
autocross, and we're having a bit of a dilemma...we cant
figure out a way to balance the workers for each heat...most
of the people who attend want to race and work in the
morning heats, which leaves a lot less people to work in the
afternoon heats...it seems like the same people always end
up staying the entire day, just to cover for those who leave
early, which isnt fair...

we currently have four heats, and the classes are rotated
each month so that the classes run at different times of the
day every month (classes in heat 1 run first this month,
then they'll run second next month, etc.)...and the heats
are set up so that they try to have the same number of
people (e.g. stock classes and modified classes in heat 1;
street prepared in heat 2, etc)...

suggestions we're looking at is to make it mandatory to let
the "chief of workers" or "chief of registration" know
before the first heat of the day that they have to leave
early...another option was to have someone NOT run in their
respective heat only if they could find someone to cover for
their work assignment in the heat they're supposed to run
in...

we dont want to enforce harsh rules, which may turn drivers
away, or even scare off new drivers to the sport...

any suggestions as to how to get enough workers for the
entire day???  what kinds of strategies do you folks use in
your area???  any and all replies greatly
appreciated...THANX!!!

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 13:20:18 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] Defensive Driving School in the Bay Area?

Jim, last I checked, there was a "BMWs first" policy for these events.
This means that a member without a BMW could get bumped from the school if
the class fills up.  I'd suggest for anyone wishing to participate in a GGC
event without a BMW to contact the event coordinator and double-check the
policy.  Maybe you could even talk them into making an exception, with the
right incentive.  Wait, let me re-phrase that...

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA
Not an event coordinator, but I used to play one

>Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 21:38:39 -0700
>From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [uuc] Defensive Driving School in the Bay Area?
>
>At 08:10 AM 8/18/03, Stan Jackson Jr. talked about:
>>But it appears that GGC requires BMW CCA membership.  And you must have a
>>BMW to participate (unless your Bimmer is in the shop).  Unfortunately,
she
>>fails on both accounts.
>
>I guess you missed what Marco said - with a BMW CCA membership a non-BMW
is
>welcome.
>
>It's been a while since I've been to a GGC Car Control Clinic, but I've
>seen non-BMWs there.
>
>I bet you could get a definitive answer from emailing either:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>or
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Cheers,
>Jim Bassett

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 15:36:06 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] slightly OT: autocross workers

Jay,
Here, in TX (LSC), each participants gets two sets of four runs: four in 
the morning and four in the afternoon. 
Those who leave early or weasel out of work miss out on the afternoon 
runs. Some still try to run twice but work only once. So we keep track of 
who worked what corner when. Than reconcile those reports with the run 
times and add 10 seconds to the published run times. If it ever came to 
that, we are prepared to ask repeat offenders not to come back to our 
events.
The corner worker shortage has eased tremendously as our events grew in 
popularity. When we had 20-40 participants, it was more critical to keep 
track of each one to man 4-5 corner worker stations (at least 2 per) and 
the grid (just one). Now that we get 60-80 cars per event, we are spoiled 
for extra corner workers and allow people to leave half-way through the 
event provided they pay in full and inform us of their intentions in 
advance.
Long story short, a combination of a carrot (afternoon runs) and a stick 
(time penalties) seams to have worked for us.

- --
alex





"Jay G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
        To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        cc: 
        Subject:        [uuc] slightly OT: autocross workers


hey gruppe...i'm one of the "mini-officials" at our local
autocross, and we're having a bit of a dilemma...we cant
figure out a way to balance the workers for each heat...most
of the people who attend want to race and work in the
morning heats, which leaves a lot less people to work in the
afternoon heats...it seems like the same people always end
up staying the entire day, just to cover for those who leave
early, which isnt fair...

we currently have four heats, and the classes are rotated
each month so that the classes run at different times of the
day every month (classes in heat 1 run first this month,
then they'll run second next month, etc.)...and the heats
are set up so that they try to have the same number of
people (e.g. stock classes and modified classes in heat 1;
street prepared in heat 2, etc)...

suggestions we're looking at is to make it mandatory to let
the "chief of workers" or "chief of registration" know
before the first heat of the day that they have to leave
early...another option was to have someone NOT run in their
respective heat only if they could find someone to cover for
their work assignment in the heat they're supposed to run
in...

we dont want to enforce harsh rules, which may turn drivers
away, or even scare off new drivers to the sport...

any suggestions as to how to get enough workers for the
entire day???  what kinds of strategies do you folks use in
your area???  any and all replies greatly
appreciated...THANX!!!

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:05:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Pease <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] 02 mit 5 speed

Jason wrote:

>The wife has a '74 2002 with a 320i 5 Speed
>transmission.  

Jason:
I converted my Tii to 5 speed locomotion a while ago. I used a Metric Mechanic shift 
lever kit
that I thought was very well made. I also installed a new rear transmission mount and 
2 new shift
plate to transmission mounts. The Metric Mechanic shifter and new rubber mounts made 
for fairly
crisp and precise shifts. My qualitative feeling is that the shifter feeling on that 
car was as
good as any other 5 speed I've had the pleasure to shift.

There are 2 different 5 speed transmissions that are used to convert 2002's. The early 
style
(model 245?) was used in 320i of 80-81? vintage. The transmission from 82 and 83 320's 
was smaller
and not as durable. Since my car is a "high horsepower" Tii application, I opted for 
the more
substantial 245 version. Maybe the newer style doesn't shift as well. I dunno.

John Pease


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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 13:55:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] slightly OT: autocross workers

Jay,

I'm not sure how many cars you're expecting, but the LA Chapter has a
system that works well for about 60 cars.  All sessions except for the
last one are untimed, and there are four (I think) sessions for groups. 
The earlier sessions are used to familiarize yourself and practice with
the course, and also to have an instructor sit in the car with you to give
you advice or teach you car control.  One of the non-driving groups is out
there working flags and cones, and different groups switch in and out. 
For the final timed runs, two groups do timed runs, while the other two
groups collect cones and work the corners, and then they switch.  This
way, for everyone who's interested in a timed run (usually almost
everyone), they stay until the end.  Times and tropies aren't given out
until the cones are all collected.

The advantages are that everyone gets lots of runs (a few dozen laps isn't
unthinkable), but you have to restrict the number of cars.

BTW, I was just in Hawaii.  I'm surprised to see how many Minis there are,
and that Infiniti G35 police cruiser in Waikiki.

- --Andre

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