[uucdigest] Thursday, August 21 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6683
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] E46 M3 oil consumption question Re: [uuc] E46 M3 oil consumption question RE: [uuc] BMW wheels Re: [uuc] Euro HFM Cold Air Intake Impressions and Questions Re: [uuc] Re: Inline 6es in the mini Re: [uuc] RE: M30 valve noise Re: [uuc] RE: M30 valve noise, Metric Mechanic RE: [uuc] Book repair charges [uuc] 1995 525 iT Valve Cover question (M50 tu) [uuc] M30 valve noise Re: [uuc] Book repair charges [uuc] E36-M3 OEM Rear Springs [uuc] Re: Digital Climate Control Conversion ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 07:58:31 -0400 From: "Bill Heumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E46 M3 oil consumption question Like the other response indicated, I would confirm that my 2002 E46 M3 also burns some oil. It went through it at a higher rate when it was young (less than 6k miles) but it still uses about a quart every month our two. I bought a case of the ridiculously expensive and hard to find Valvoline synthetic oil that they recommend as the primary oil choice (10w 50 I think) so that I would have it on hand. It's pretty scary if the oil level light comes on one night and you have to try to find a suitable oil at Wal-Mart. Bill Heumann ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:09:39 -0400 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E46 M3 oil consumption question Bill Heumann wrote: > I bought a case of the ridiculously expensive and hard to find Valvoline > synthetic oil that they recommend as the primary oil choice (10w 50 I think) isn't Castrol RS 10W-60 @$8-$9/qt the recommended fill ? > so that I would have it on hand. It's pretty scary if the oil level light > comes on one night and you have to try to find a suitable oil at Wal-Mart. strangely enough if there's a recommended 10W-50, then you might be able to find get by w/ Mobil 1 15W-50 in a pinch at Wal-Mart and sometimes for a reasonable price (~$18/five qt jug). Ben ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:33:24 -0400 From: "chet.dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] BMW wheels Now that we have that problem solved (and thanks to Tim/Brett/Scott!)..... Anyone want to lose some garage space? :) I know I'd like to re-claim the space these 4 wheels are taking up! There are 4 pretty nice (not concour) wheels with painted black centers. There are a few minor paint chips from storage for a number of years but they look straight and true. I obtained these in a trade of Bimmer parts for Bimmer parts locally. I'd like only shipping costs + $50 for the set of 4. If you can come pick them up in Ann Arbor, MI or meet me somewhere 'close' for a beer that would be great and could be arranged. E-mail me if you'd like more info and I'll try to get some photos of them for anyone interested. Thanks, Chet Dawes RE: [uuc] BMW wheels Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 00:31:25 -0400 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] BMW wheels Tim is correct. It was available on E12, E23, E24 and E28. Full part number is 36 11 1 118 772 Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > Folks, > I have come across a set of wheels and I don't know what car they might > have come off. > Here are the details: > Stamped/cast numbers: > 1118772 > 6 1/2 J x 14H2-B > Anyone know what they came off? > These are of the same 'style' as e30 325is wheels, but they are 5-lug > and don't have the same center cap style. Might they be from a 5-er or > an older coupe? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:39:46 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Euro HFM Cold Air Intake Impressions and Questions >To make a long story short, >the chip that was in my car when I bought it has a little piggy-back >encryption board that goes along with the chip, and the chip I bought >for the HFM set up did not use one. Frank this is all old news to most of us, you see Jim C. got tired of people making counterfeit copies of his chips, therefore the encryption board. He also sued a company that was selling counterfeit chips and calling them Jim C chips. >My question is what have you people running CAI setups done with the air >temperature sensor that valves coolant to the throttle body(it used to >reside in the stock air box)? Zip tie it someplace. >What about that damn carbon canister that is used for the venting of >fuel vapors? You move this down. The tell you this in the instructions for Euro HFM conversions, that's the downside of sourcing everything yourself but if you're on some E36 list someone on there should've told you this. That's an awesome mod for the E36 M3 though, enjoy! Carlos 91 M3 88 iS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:45:24 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Inline 6es in the mini Ben wrote: >similar in execution to the RWD V8 Foci that you >see running around. BTW the V8 RWD Focus (the one in Autoweek) will be at the autox this Sunday in Detroit. I bet I can smoke its times with Ben's WRX STi. I'll be running against another STi and two Evos on Azenis. :-) Carlos (really looking fwd to seeing what that STi will do) 91 M3 <--bought autocross Hoo-hoos for it, guess selling it will have to wait. 88 iS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:32:23 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: M30 valve noise >I think we can all agree that the guys at MM know what >they're talking about. That is arguable for sure. Carlos 91 M3 88 iS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 07:02:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: M30 valve noise, Metric Mechanic That they make good product or that they know what they're talking about? I don't see how a couple of guys that have been opening up BMW engines since before I was born (which really isn't saying much, I guess) could be construed as not knowing anything about the engines. Brad Couvillon - --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >I think we can all agree that the guys at MM know > what > >they're talking about. > > That is arguable for sure. > > Carlos > 91 M3 > 88 iS __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:12:32 -0400 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Book repair charges Kirk, First off, I would let you have at it with my car. I guess my brain must've been fading from plundering company time yesterday because somehow I didn't get my point across. I would, of course, prefer the most skilled guy I could, but I also just want the guy to be straightforward with me. Maybe I'm just lucky where I had the car worked on. I got a good hourly rate from upfront & honest guys. Yes, I expect the hourly rate to be higher for a more experienced tech with better equipment. At this point, if I'm bringing my car to you it's either because I'm not smart enough or too lazy to fix it. And yes, I want the best. Actually, looking back you may have gotten the exact opposite impression I was trying to make. I believe that an experienced tech who has a higher hourly rate will save me a LOT of money over any discount boob. I also kind of really doubt that someone like you would ever give me a bill for more hours than you had the car..... Oh yea, I'm the last idiot to fix the brakes..... Cheers, Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: Eurowerks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 6:04 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [uuc] Book repair charges > > > Lee, > > So what you are telling us is that it really does not matter > what skill > level the technician, or mechanic may be the case, has as > long as the job > gets done. Do you really care about the quality of work on > your braking > system? > Am I to be penalized for owning 100K plus worth of special > tools to help me > speed up my labor times? > What about the knowledge of other systems and problems with > the car. Should > I just do the repair procedure "by the book" which usually > requires spending > hours worth of diagnosis when I have already fixed this > problem many, many > times? Are you telling me that you don't mind paying some > basic mechanic 5 > hours worth of time to fix something that may take me 10 > minutes. I may > actually charge you an hour, but he will charge you 5 just > for looking and > potentially finding nothing. > I have never followed the train of thought that you are > coming from. I > don't even understand how you could come about that thought process. > Doctors charge flat rates for surgeries that they do and not > hourly rates. > How do you feel about a doctor charging you $2500 to do a > surgery that took > 15 minutes? Should he be penalized for being proficient too? > I will tell you that I have had this conversation about 10 times in 13 > years. Those people no longer own european cars because they could no > longer find ANYONE to work on them competently. Is this what > is going to > happen to you? I hope not. > The BOOK by the way is very generous on some times and very stingy on > others. It all works out in the end. > > Kirk A. Gilchrist > EURO-WERKS / Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair > 8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 859-745-0125 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 888-522-0271 toll free > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:37:48 -0500 From: "BHipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] 1995 525 iT Valve Cover question (M50 tu) I have been having problems with a leaking valve cover on my 95 525iT. The gasket was replaced soon after I purchased the car in March and has continued to leak. For test purposes I have replaced the valve cover with and extra a friend had. While doing this I noticed a place in the valve cover, where the breather hose attaches that has a cover with 2 phillips head screws (on the cam side of the cover). Without inspecting further, I replaced the valve cover. My question is this: Is there a filter or valve in there or is it just a baffle? If there is a filter or valve in there could this be bad and cause "back pressure" to create a leak? Or is it possible that the valve cover is just warped enough to creak leaks? I must add that it appears that the head had been replaced. I can only assume the dreaded water pump impellor failure occurred and overheated the engine. I did replace the plastic thermostat housing with a metal one and the water pump (which had the metal impellor) soon after purchasing the car. Also, it looks like oil is seeping out around the intake. Is there oil passages around or through the intake? Thanks in advance Kevin B. Hipp 1995 525 iTa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:58:51 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] M30 valve noise > Yes, this is some he-said she-said stuff, but the > friend that told me this has never done me wrong, and > I think we can all agree that the guys at MM know what > they're talking about. I don't necessarily disagree with your valve adjustment advice, but I don't agree with your second statement about MM. Regards, Rich - likes M&Ms but don't eat them right now...damn Atkins. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:05:44 -0400 From: "Eurowerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Book repair charges Thanks for the clarification Lee. I would in fact charge you the same as my other clients, a fair rate for an exceptional repair job. I tell all of my client this little mantra, " I am not here to get you all at once, I would prefer to get a little bit from you each time for a long time". I did totally misunderstand your first post, and I am sorry if any offense was taken. Kirk A. Gilchrist EURO-WERKS / Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair 8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 859-745-0125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 888-522-0271 toll free ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:01:31 +0000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] E36-M3 OEM Rear Springs Does anyone have a set in good condition that they want to sell? Please e-mail me direct. Thanks John Corbs > That they make good product or that they know what > they're talking about? > > I don't see how a couple of guys that have been > opening up BMW engines since before I was born (which > really isn't saying much, I guess) could be construed > as not knowing anything about the engines. > > Brad Couvillon > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >I think we can all agree that the guys at MM know > > what > > >they're talking about. > > > > That is arguable for sure. > > > > Carlos > > 91 M3 > > 88 iS > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:48:34 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: Digital Climate Control Conversion "R o d r i g o" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Has anyone converted their rotary style HVAC to the digital style found > on later model e-36's? I remember reading that someone on the E36M3 list had done that. > I want to change mine (1992 325i sedan) to a digital (1998). > How is it gonna be possible, what are the parts I'll need? Anything is possible given enough $$$. For this project, you will need at least a new '96+ E36 HVAC interface box, new heater box with electric step motors for all three air passageways (I would not buy that one used) and possibly a new wiring harness. You will need to tear apart the dashboard and likely splice a lot of wires to replace and hook-up all of the above. This is all doable, but neither simple, nor inexpensive nor for the faint of heart. > Does anyone have any step by step procedure? Someone probably does. 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