[uucdigest] Monday, August 25 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6697
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RE: [uuc] Someone hit my BMW! Advice sought... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:46:42 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] <WOT> Z06 Oil Cooler I'll second the request for an oil cooler. Rode with someone at Mid Ohio that was good for maybe a half dozen laps before he had to back off... Marc Plante [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:46:42 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] <WOT> Z06 Oil Cooler I'll second the request for an oil cooler. Rode with someone at Mid Ohio that was good for maybe a half dozen laps before he had to back off... Marc Plante [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:54:14 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: E30 suspension upgrade Hi Drew, there are some "while you are in there" things that you should check out: Rear: Upper shock mounts - replace with E46 M3/convertible mounts, they fit and are more sturdier Semi-trailing arm bushings - check for wear (possible upgrade to eccentric bushings for camber/toe adjustment) Front:: Lower control arm bushings - check for wear (possible upgrade to offset M3 bushings for more caster) Ball joints - check for looseness, replace control arms if ball joints are worn Tie rod ends - check for looseness, replace if worn Upper strut bearings - check for cracks or binding (possible upgrade to offset "crash correction" bushings for more negative camber) The best prices I found on the Bilsteins when I did this upgrade were at Eurasian in Temecula, CA. Last I checked they hadn't yet put their BMW parts on their web site, so you might have to call them. M3 springs should be available from the many M3 owners who are upgrading to aftermarket set-ups. If you're doing the work yourself, you'll need some good spring compressors and preferably air tools (not necessary, they just make the job easier). We used a big ol' honkin' pipe wrench to hold the strut while removing the innards and installing the replacement Bilstein cartridges. Good luck with your project, Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA 1990 325i w/ M3 springs & Bilsteins 1991 325iA needs shocks/struts, future project >Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 19:56:26 -0700 (PDT) >From: Drew Sheppard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] E30 suspension upgrade > >Group > >I think it is time for a suspension upgrade on my 87 325is. I am >leaning toward used E30 M3 springs and Bilstein Sport shocks. Any >advice before I start my search on where to look or problems to >watch out for on installation? Sorry if this has been covered >recently, I am a little behind on my UUC email due to a vacation. >It looks like there were some pretty busy discussions, I am >catching up. > >Thanks > >Drew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:00:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Brush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] LRP Historics Labor Day Weekend Time for my 2nd annual pilgrimage to the Lime Rock Historics. Anybody going? Last year the package was pretty cool, the hospitality tent had nice brats and potato salad IIRC and drinks, all you could eat, and a separate viewing area overlooking the start/finish straight. I like to watch from the hill by big bend so that's where we were some of the time. Got a couple of BMW hats in the "goodies bag" too. Hope it's something different this year as I have only so many heads. Even without the BMW package it's a neat event.Walking around the paddock you get up close and personal to some rare machinery, like a Bugatti restored by a guy over 20 yrs in his garage, and running on the track. And the flea market is full of rare junk and good stuff too. If anybody is going let me know, I will be driving out from Boston on Saturday AM. Or, we could decide on a FRC channel as I will try to remember to bring the radios. P'head? Jon __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:29:05 -0400 From: "Bill Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Oil consumption by 2000M5 w/34k miles Pretty much. Or as the dealer would say "within normal tolerances for the car". It also depends a lot on how you drive the car. I will use almost a quart in a 2 day DE that involves 400 or so track miles. Or a quart in 2-3k miles of normal street driving. (Actually I think those expensive dealer containers of oil are in 1Liter bottles). Bill Matthews Hockessin DE 00 M Geeze some Volvos other cars - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana LeJune" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 2:28 PM Subject: [uuc] Oil consumption by 2000M5 w/34k miles > My M5 uses 1qt of that damned expensive synthetic oil every 2000 miles. > Is that normal?! > > Dana Andrew LeJune > Board-Certified, Civil Trial Lawyer > 3006 Brazos > Houston, Texas 77006 > 713.942-9898 > "Zealous Representation" > WWW.TRIALLAWYERS.NET > > "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, > so that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:26:46 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: E46 AWD Oil capacity ?? Jamie, I'm not positive about the E46, but the E30 325ix all wheel drive had a special oil pan that allowed one of the front half-shafts to pass through the pan. I bet the E46 oil pans are also different. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:55:57 -0500 >From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] E46 AWD Oil capacity ?? > >While changing my oil this weekend I noticed that the AWD variants >(325xi and 330xi) contain exactly one more quart of oil (7.9 qt) than >the the rear wheel drive variants (320i, 325i, 330i) at 6.9 qt. > >Anyone know the reason? Do the "x" type cars have an external oil >cooler that accounts for the additional capacity? If so can it be >retrofitted to a non-AWD car? I have searched ETK but can't find >anything different in the lubrication systems between the models. > >Thanks > >Jamie Howton >2002 330i 5 Spd Steel Blue Metallic SP >1995 M3 5 Spd Arctic Silver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:44:03 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: E46 AWD Oil capacity ?? on 8/25/03 2:41 PM, "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While changing my oil this weekend I noticed that the AWD variants > (325xi and 330xi) contain exactly one more quart of oil (7.9 qt) than > the the rear wheel drive variants (320i, 325i, 330i) at 6.9 qt. > > Anyone know the reason? Do the "x" type cars have an external oil > cooler that accounts for the additional capacity? No they don't. on 8/25/03 2:41 PM, "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My guess is the pan is different. The ETK does show that they have different oil pan part numbers, so Gary's surmise may well be the explanation. Neil 96 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:50:14 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: E46 AWD Oil capacity ?? Thanks Scott, That's what Gary Derian thought too. Regards Jamie Howton 2002 330i 5 Spd Steel Blue Metallic SP 1995 M3 5 Spd Arctic Silver > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 4:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] Re: E46 AWD Oil capacity ?? > > > Jamie, I'm not positive about the E46, but the E30 325ix all > wheel drive had a special oil pan that allowed one of the > front half-shafts to pass through the pan. I bet the E46 oil > pans are also different. > > Scott Miller > GGC BMW CCA > > >Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:55:57 -0500 > >From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: [uuc] E46 AWD Oil capacity ?? > > > >While changing my oil this weekend I noticed that the AWD variants > >(325xi and 330xi) contain exactly one more quart of oil (7.9 > qt) than > >the the rear wheel drive variants (320i, 325i, 330i) at 6.9 qt. > > > >Anyone know the reason? Do the "x" type cars have an external oil > >cooler that accounts for the additional capacity? If so can it be > >retrofitted to a non-AWD car? I have searched ETK but can't find > >anything different in the lubrication systems between the models. > > > >Thanks > > > >Jamie Howton > >2002 330i 5 Spd Steel Blue Metallic SP > >1995 M3 5 Spd Arctic Silver > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:37:52 -0700 From: "Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 suspension upgrade I'd go straight to > > coil-overs and skip all the in between carp. > > I have to agree that the use of carp in a suspension setup would provide a > little too much compliance........ Yes, I tried it once, and it stinks. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 19:34:04 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 Heat shield, cam chain tensioner No, but stainless steel hose clamps work well. Gary Derian > It's always nice to get the answer you want to hear. Thanks. > > I don't think my intermediate zip-tie situation was going to work for long > anyway. > > Chris B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 17:12:36 -0700 (PDT) From: John Hovell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Someone hit my BMW! Advice sought... Group -- I was rear-ended at a stop light a few weeks ago and got an estimate from a recommended body shop for $1255 to replace the rear bumper cover and paint it. Seeing the damage was very minor (two pock marks from license plate screws, and some light scrathes) and my car ('95 M3) is not getting any newer or more valuable, I was considering just pocketing the money, and perhaps just having a body shop touch up the damage for a couple hundred bucks. However, Farmer's Insurance, the carrier of the guy who hit me, had me drive 30 miles away to have an estimate done at their office in order to get a cash payout (no there was no other option, and I spoke to a manager). After taking 2 hours off work to drive down there, they appraise the damage at $683. Furthermore, they said if my body shop is unwilling to negotiate, I will be held responsible for any additional costs than the agreed upon amount (such as labor rate - my body shop wants $70, they'll pay $60). Has anyone been down this road before or have any advice to me as to what my rights or options are? I figured I would be greeted with a check for *at least or close to* $1255 so they could just have the claim settled and not have to put me in a rental car for a week or two, pay additional damages if they are found, etc etc, minus any negotition they might get out of the body shop. I was very surprised not only by the amount they offered me, but their lack of courtesy or respect for me... basically acting the whole time as if this were my problem (I guess it is) not a liability of theirs. The location is Palo Alto, California, and the body shop I got an estimate from is Stanford European. The driver-at-fault's carrier is Farmer's Insurance, once again, and I would recommend avoiding them if you are in the market for insurance in California -- they don't seem to be pleasant people. I can't imagine how I would be treated if I were a customer of theirs found *at fault* in an accident! Lastly, if you wonder how such vastly different numbers are arrived at for the same damage estimate, repair vs. replace bumper, $60 vs. $70 hr labor, standard paint vs. color sand & buff, plus Farmer's forgot to add a few miscellaneous trim pieces to their estimate pretty much tells the story. Farmers also inexplicably included a 5% parts discount on BMW parts. TiA, - - John Alpine White / Gray M Cloth '95 M3 for the street Dakar Yellow S50B32 powered '95 M3 for the track ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:17:05 -0700 From: "John Coffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Someone hit my BMW! Advice sought... Sorry to hear about your trouble. I had a similar experience with State Farm (other's at fault car insurance). They basically stonewalled me trying to get me to accept half of my shop's estimate. I think you have two options, take them to small claims (with other estimates) or claim it on your insurance and have your insurance go after them to collect. I chose the latter, AAA got the whole amount from Farms and returned my $1000 deductible in 30 days. I had a similar experience with Progressive too. - -John - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Hovell Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 5:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Someone hit my BMW! Advice sought... Group -- I was rear-ended at a stop light a few weeks ago and got an estimate from a recommended body shop for $1255 to replace the rear bumper cover and paint it. Seeing the damage was very minor (two pock marks from license plate screws, and some light scrathes) and my car ('95 M3) is not getting any newer or more valuable, I was considering just pocketing the money, and perhaps just having a body shop touch up the damage for a couple hundred bucks. However, Farmer's Insurance, the carrier of the guy who hit me, had me drive 30 miles away to have an estimate done at their office in order to get a cash payout (no there was no other option, and I spoke to a manager). After taking 2 hours off work to drive down there, they appraise the damage at $683. Furthermore, they said if my body shop is unwilling to negotiate, I will be held responsible for any additional costs than the agreed upon amount (such as labor rate - my body shop wants $70, they'll pay $60). Has anyone been down this road before or have any advice to me as to what my rights or options are? I figured I would be greeted with a check for *at least or close to* $1255 so they could just have the claim settled and not have to put me in a rental car for a week or two, pay additional damages if they are found, etc etc, minus any negotition they might get out of the body shop. I was very surprised not only by the amount they offered me, but their lack of courtesy or respect for me... basically acting the whole time as if this were my problem (I guess it is) not a liability of theirs. The location is Palo Alto, California, and the body shop I got an estimate from is Stanford European. The driver-at-fault's carrier is Farmer's Insurance, once again, and I would recommend avoiding them if you are in the market for insurance in California -- they don't seem to be pleasant people. I can't imagine how I would be treated if I were a customer of theirs found *at fault* in an accident! Lastly, if you wonder how such vastly different numbers are arrived at for the same damage estimate, repair vs. replace bumper, $60 vs. $70 hr labor, standard paint vs. color sand & buff, plus Farmer's forgot to add a few miscellaneous trim pieces to their estimate pretty much tells the story. Farmers also inexplicably included a 5% parts discount on BMW parts. TiA, - - John Alpine White / Gray M Cloth '95 M3 for the street Dakar Yellow S50B32 powered '95 M3 for the track ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6697 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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