[uucdigest] Monday, August 25 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6696
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[uuc] Oil consumption by 2000M5 w/34k miles Re: [uuc] <WOT> Z06 vette advice Re: [uuc] Oil consumption by 2000M5 w/34k miles RE: [uuc] <WOT> Z06 vette advice Re: [uuc] <WOT> Z06 vette advice ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 08:16:47 -0700 From: Bora Akyol (BMW) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] FS/FT: 15x8 E30 M3 Kosei wheels > Local buyer (95020, SF Bay Area) preferred. Bora > >> From: Bora Akyol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Sun Aug 24, 2003 21:15:21 US/Pacific >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: FS/FT: 15x8 E30 M3 Kosei wheels >> >> I am moving up to 17 inch wheels, I have three sets of 15x8 Kosei >> wheels >> for sale. >> >> 1 set has Yoko A032Rs with one track day and no street miles. >> 1 set has Kumho V700 with 5 track days and even wear. >> 1 set has Ecsta V700s with 2 track days and no blister (needs to be >> rebalanced as the weights fell off after the race). >> >> I would like to get 2000 for all three sets of 675 per set. >> >> If you have 17 inch quality, strong, straight and light weight wheels >> that you would like to trade either in E30 M3 or >> E36 fitments, I would be interested. Big brake clearance is a >> requirement. >> >> Thanks >> >> Bora >> > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:19:17 -0500 From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Oil Leak - Intermittent I had a similar oil leak on my 95 M3, and I traced it to the point where the dipstick goes into the pan. There was an O-ring that was hardened and allowed the oil to come out while driving, especially on the track during hard cornering when the oil sloshes to the sides of the pan. It also came out when I jacked up one side of the car to change tires. At the track, I left a large puddle on the pit asphalt after a session. If you remove the HFM, it is very easy to change. One bolt that connects a strap on the dipstick to a support on the motor, and the dipstick pulls right out. Put your hands or a rag around the unit at the pan as it comes out so that pieces of the hardened O-ring don't fall into the pan. I tried to fit it with US sized rings form the parts store, but the 3/4 X 1/8" was too loose, and 3/4 X 5/32" was too fat to slide in correctly. The dealer had one the right size, which I think was 14 X 4 metric. Hope this helps. I have a 'no leak motor' again. Dave 95 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:28:49 -0400 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] E30 suspension upgrade > > I think this is an excellent E30 suspension setup. Nice ride > height and > still quite soft. If I wanted something stiffer, I'd go straight to > coil-overs and skip all the in between carp. I have to agree that the use of carp in a suspension setup would provide a little too much compliance........ > > Gary Derian Lee P.S. Coming to Columbus on Wednesday for about a month. We should get together. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:55:57 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E46 AWD Oil capacity ?? While changing my oil this weekend I noticed that the AWD variants (325xi and 330xi) contain exactly one more quart of oil (7.9 qt) than the the rear wheel drive variants (320i, 325i, 330i) at 6.9 qt. Anyone know the reason? Do the "x" type cars have an external oil cooler that accounts for the additional capacity? If so can it be retrofitted to a non-AWD car? I have searched ETK but can't find anything different in the lubrication systems between the models. Thanks Jamie Howton 2002 330i 5 Spd Steel Blue Metallic SP 1995 M3 5 Spd Arctic Silver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:26:11 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Oil Leak - Intermittent that might be it. I'll check it tonight. thanks Marco - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 8:19 AM To: UUC Digest Subject: [uuc] Oil Leak - Intermittent I had a similar oil leak on my 95 M3, and I traced it to the point where the dipstick goes into the pan. There was an O-ring that was hardened and allowed the oil to come out while driving, especially on the track during hard cornering when the oil sloshes to the sides of the pan. It also came out when I jacked up one side of the car to change tires. At the track, I left a large puddle on the pit asphalt after a session. If you remove the HFM, it is very easy to change. One bolt that connects a strap on the dipstick to a support on the motor, and the dipstick pulls right out. Put your hands or a rag around the unit at the pan as it comes out so that pieces of the hardened O-ring don't fall into the pan. I tried to fit it with US sized rings form the parts store, but the 3/4 X 1/8" was too loose, and 3/4 X 5/32" was too fat to slide in correctly. The dealer had one the right size, which I think was 14 X 4 metric. Hope this helps. I have a 'no leak motor' again. Dave 95 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:04:30 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [uuc] <WOT> Z06 vette advice Jay, Apparently a lot of heat is given off and not adequately vented in the transmission tunnel. I believe this results is a pretty hot area near the driver's leg. - -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:34:13 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 suspension upgrade You're welcome. There has been progress at the house. I could have had a few very nice cars for what this place is costing me. Gary Derian > > > > I think this is an excellent E30 suspension setup. Nice ride > > height and > > still quite soft. If I wanted something stiffer, I'd go straight to > > coil-overs and skip all the in between carp. > > I have to agree that the use of carp in a suspension setup would provide a > little too much compliance........ > > > > > Gary Derian > > Lee > P.S. Coming to Columbus on Wednesday for about a month. We should get > together. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:43:58 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E46 AWD Oil capacity ?? Even it it did the cooler doesn't drain. My guess is the pan is different. Gary Derian > While changing my oil this weekend I noticed that the AWD variants > (325xi and 330xi) contain exactly one more quart of oil (7.9 qt) than > the the rear wheel drive variants (320i, 325i, 330i) at 6.9 qt. > > Anyone know the reason? Do the "x" type cars have an external oil > cooler that accounts for the additional capacity? If so can it be > retrofitted to a non-AWD car? I have searched ETK but can't find > anything different in the lubrication systems between the models. > > Thanks > > Jamie Howton > 2002 330i 5 Spd Steel Blue Metallic SP > 1995 M3 5 Spd Arctic Silver > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:28:35 -0500 From: "Dana LeJune" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Oil consumption by 2000M5 w/34k miles My M5 uses 1qt of that damned expensive synthetic oil every 2000 miles. Is that normal?! Dana Andrew LeJune Board-Certified, Civil Trial Lawyer 3006 Brazos Houston, Texas 77006 713.942-9898 "Zealous Representation" WWW.TRIALLAWYERS.NET "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, so that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:26:04 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <WOT> Z06 vette advice That and brakes need work for the track, plus add an oil cooler. Gary Derian > Jay, > > Apparently a lot of heat is given off and not adequately vented in the transmission tunnel. I believe this results is a pretty hot > area near the driver's leg. > > -Kevin > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:37:13 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Oil consumption by 2000M5 w/34k miles Yes. But you are only spending 1/2 cent per mile, pretty cheap in the scheme of things. Gary Derian > My M5 uses 1qt of that damned expensive synthetic oil every 2000 miles. > Is that normal?! > > Dana Andrew LeJune > Board-Certified, Civil Trial Lawyer > 3006 Brazos > Houston, Texas 77006 > 713.942-9898 > "Zealous Representation" > WWW.TRIALLAWYERS.NET > > "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, > so that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 15:20:38 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [uuc] <WOT> Z06 vette advice Hi Jay Here's the email that I wrote the to the E36M3 list comparing my E36M3 to my then new Z06. I wrote this a couple of months ago, but my impressions are still the same. Although, I am beginning to see the Z06 as a replacement to the M3, rather just complimenting it. Nonetheless, the both are amazing cars, but you certainly will not be disappointed with the Z06. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Colin Subject: [E36M3] M3 vs Z06 Impressions Hi group, About 3 months ago I asked about people's impression of the Corvette Z06 in comparison to an E36 M3, as I was contemplating buying a Z06. I got some great responses. Fast forward a few months and I now wanted to share my impressions after driving my Z06 for a couple of months. In terms of biases, I love my M3. I consider it to be the best car that I have ever owned. I also have a muscle car bug though, having grown up modifying an old Trans Am with a turbocharged V-8. My comparison is to a '98 M3/2 with the following mods: JC software +intake, Dinan suspension, Euro rotors + R4s pads, X-brace, S03s etc, which I have owned for 3.5 years. I've autoxed the car since day 1, and rub it with a diaper the other days. Handling: The Z06 feels heavier in turn-in, even though it weighs the same, due to the massive tires (265, 295). The ride is amazingly compliant, far more than my Dinan suspended M3. I haven't got to test the ultimate handling at the autox/track yet, but it appears to be considerably higher than the M3. Power oversteer is only a touch of the gas away. The active handling control is amazing....barely intrusive and gently comes in to regain control when there's a large slip angle. The M3, probably to due my comfort level with it, wins in the "feel" department, the Z06 in ultimate G forces. Brakes: A little sensitive, especially for heel and toeing on the street. The gas pedal is a bit low to facilitate easy heel and toeing on the street. The deceleration is quite impressive though with those huge tires and autox/track level stock brake pads. They dust far more than stock M3 pads though! The M3 wins in ability to heel and toe easily, and the Z06 wins in ultimate Gs. Acceleration: I consider my M3 to be pretty quick, consistently putting down 5.4s 0-60 times according to the GTech. The Z06 is ridiculous. I can literally get rubber (295/35ZR18s) in 2nd gear at 45 mph by just punching the gas, with the traction control on! Of course, even it needs a few more HP, so the mods have begun! The big V-8 revs very quickly and has amazing throttle response, and pulls strong towards redline (6600 rpm), although I haven't made it there yet due to break-in. The exhaust sounds amazing at high RPM. Similar in fact, to a friend's older (~93) 911 Turbo S after 4000 rpm. The Z06 easily wins this category. I now need cams or a supercharger for the M3 :) Quality: Paint finish is not up to par on the Z06. The paint is ridiculously delicate and the paint has a couple of minor flaws. Interior is a bit cheesy, but fit and finish are OK. The Z06 has nicely fitted seats, but they're a bit flimsy. Advantage: M3. Overall, I find the Z06 to be a perfect complement to the M3, not a replacement. The Z06 exceeds all of my expectations and is truly a supercar at a relatively affordable price. Thanks for the BW, Colin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 15:38:48 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <WOT> Z06 vette advice What you really want is an M3 with the LS6 Corvette engine. Gary Derian > > Hi Jay > > Here's the email that I wrote the to the E36M3 list comparing my E36M3 to > my then new Z06. I wrote this a couple of months ago, but my impressions > are still the same. Although, I am beginning to see the Z06 as a > replacement to the M3, rather just complimenting it. Nonetheless, the both > are amazing cars, but you certainly will not be disappointed with the Z06. > Let me know if you have any questions. > > Thanks, > Colin > > > > Subject: [E36M3] M3 vs Z06 Impressions > > > Hi group, > > About 3 months ago I asked about people's impression of the Corvette Z06 in > comparison to an E36 M3, as I was contemplating buying a Z06. I got some > great responses. Fast forward a few months and I now wanted to share my > impressions after driving my Z06 for a couple of months. > > In terms of biases, I love my M3. I consider it to be the best car that I > have ever owned. I also have a muscle car bug though, having grown up > modifying an old Trans Am with a turbocharged V-8. > > My comparison is to a '98 M3/2 with the following mods: JC software > +intake, Dinan suspension, Euro rotors + R4s pads, X-brace, S03s etc, which > I have owned for 3.5 years. I've autoxed the car since day 1, and rub it > with a diaper the other days. > > Handling: The Z06 feels heavier in turn-in, even though it weighs the same, > due to the massive tires (265, 295). The ride is amazingly compliant, far > more than my Dinan suspended M3. I haven't got to test the ultimate > handling at the autox/track yet, but it appears to be considerably higher > than the M3. Power oversteer is only a touch of the gas away. The active > handling control is amazing....barely intrusive and gently comes in to > regain control when there's a large slip angle. The M3, probably to due my > comfort level with it, wins in the "feel" department, the Z06 in ultimate G > forces. > > Brakes: A little sensitive, especially for heel and toeing on the street. > The gas pedal is a bit low to facilitate easy heel and toeing on the > street. The deceleration is quite impressive though with those huge tires > and autox/track level stock brake pads. They dust far more than stock M3 > pads though! The M3 wins in ability to heel and toe easily, and the Z06 > wins in ultimate Gs. > > Acceleration: I consider my M3 to be pretty quick, consistently putting > down 5.4s 0-60 times according to the GTech. The Z06 is ridiculous. I can > literally get rubber (295/35ZR18s) in 2nd gear at 45 mph by just punching > the gas, with the traction control on! Of course, even it needs a few more > HP, so the mods have begun! The big V-8 revs very quickly and has amazing > throttle response, and pulls strong towards redline (6600 rpm), although I > haven't made it there yet due to break-in. The exhaust sounds amazing at > high RPM. Similar in fact, to a friend's older (~93) 911 Turbo S after > 4000 rpm. The Z06 easily wins this category. I now need cams or a > supercharger for the M3 :) > > Quality: Paint finish is not up to par on the Z06. The paint is > ridiculously delicate and the paint has a couple of minor flaws. Interior > is a bit cheesy, but fit and finish are OK. The Z06 has nicely fitted > seats, but they're a bit flimsy. Advantage: M3. > > Overall, I find the Z06 to be a perfect complement to the M3, not a > replacement. The Z06 exceeds all of my expectations and is truly a > supercar at a relatively affordable price. > > Thanks for the BW, > Colin > > > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6696 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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