[uucdigest]        Thursday, September 4 2003        Volume 03 : Number 6724



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] Wheel Fitment Question
       RE:  [uuc] <WOT> One whopping diesel engine!
       RE: [uuc] Experience with Kumho Ecsta V700 Tires
       RE: [uuc] Question about LSD Diffs..
       [uuc] re: BMW gas fill location
       [uuc] [E36] Front Bumper Cover for 94 325i Sedan
       Re: [uuc] Experience with Kumho Ecsta V700 Tires
       Re: [uuc] Question about LSD Diffs..
       [uuc] RE: <WOT> One whopping diesel engine!
       [uuc] '90 E30 325i C101 connector summary
       RE: [uuc] Re:  E39 528 Diff Info
       RE: [uuc] re: BMW gas fill location
       RE: [uuc] re: BMW gas fill location

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:17:48 -0400
From: "Nancy Fluharty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Wheel Fitment Question

Anyone know for sure -- do the 16" Z3 "Star" wheels fit a '95 M3 with stock
brakes? I know 16's are iffy due to brake clearance. Got a chance to buy
some for winter use.

Bob Fluharty
95 M3
87 325is
Cincinnati

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 16:53:47 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE:  [uuc] <WOT> One whopping diesel engine!

Hey Joe,

Go and get 10 guys to lug that wrench over here so's we can loosen this
nut.

I wouldn't want to be close to the intake on that thing when it's really
purring.

- -Kevin

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 16:57:17 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [uuc] Experience with Kumho Ecsta V700 Tires

Hi Lee, thanks for actually answering my question.  So many people wanted
this to be a camber issue, but it was not so with other tires.  But you and
Jim Bassett have had the same experience as I have, so I'll be moving on to
another tire now.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 17:53:19 -0400
>From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [uuc] Experience with Kumho Ecsta V700 Tires
>
>Scott,
>
>Welcome to the Kumho "groove of death".  I had the exact same problem with
>my V700's.  My car is also running on 15x7", although I'm approaching -2.5
>camber.  My tires corded only on the very edge, where the edge of the tire
>face meets the sidewall.  Mine were gone after 2 track events.  Ok, ok,
the
>second 2 days were at Roebling Rd, which is slightly abrasive, but still
>there was only about 5 or so hours of track time.
>
>If you go to the tirerack & kumho's website, both have an announcement
that
>those tires should not be used for dry track or autocross without being
>shaved & heat cycled.  The result of not doing this is exactly what you
have
>seen.
>
>My tires were exactly like yours, perfect everywhere but the shoulder.  A
>well regarded guru in my area told me to just throw them out.  "$500 is
way
>cheaper than ending up on your roof," he said.
>
>I'd say there's nothing wrong with your setup, what you have is fine.
While
>the 45 aspect ratio is preferable, I went back with the victoracers for
>their durability.
>
>Lee

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 16:57:55 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [uuc] Question about LSD Diffs..

Jamie, it is possible that worn clutches will still allow the wheels to
turn the same way when there is no load.  But under load, the normal 25%
lockup might have become 5% lockup, which is almost like not having limited
slip.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 16:04:57 -0500
>From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [uuc] Question about LSD Diffs..
>
>>>With all of this talk about people getting their LSD diff.s rebuilt,
>how do you know if a LSD diff has gone bad?
>
>Jack up the rear end (both wheels off the ground) and rotate one of the
>wheels, if the other one turns in the same direction you have LSD, if it
>turns the opposite direction you don't.
>
>Regards
>
>Jamie Howton
>2002 330i (No LSD and it's a damn shame)
>1995 M3 (LSD)

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 17:13:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ian Osborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] re: BMW gas fill location

The gas fill location should put the filler away from
the road if you happen to run out of gas and pull over
the slow lane berm.  It is safer for the person doing
the filling.

Ian


"IIRC, I've also read that the Left Rear Fender
location for gas fill is more likely to be impacted in
an accident than the Right Rear. So, the RR location
was touted as a safety feature. All according to
statistical analysis of course, so truth may lie
elsewhere."

Doesn't help those of us with RHD* :(.

My present and former BMWs have their filler on the
right rear, or what would be the passenger's side in
the country of origin.  My first car, a Honda, had its
filler on the left rear, again on the passenger's side
in the country/ies of origin (designed in Japan, built
in the UK).  I don't think RHD BMWs would be 
ignificantly less safe than their LHD counterparts in
this respect, but there might be something to it.

Andy T


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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 20:21:26 -0400
From: "Dave Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] [E36] Front Bumper Cover for 94 325i Sedan

I need a front bumper cover for my wife's 94 325i Sedan. Does anyone 
know of a good source (other that dealer)?

Dave Kelley
98 M3/4
94 325i

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 20:19:58 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Experience with Kumho Ecsta V700 Tires

Jeesy Pete, you guys buy the cheapest crap tires you can find and then
complain.
Gary Derian



> > Welcome to the Kumho "groove of death".
>
> AKA Groove of Doom, ala the old BFG R1.
>
> > If you go to the tirerack & kumho's website, both have an announcement
> > that those tires should not be used for dry track or autocross without
> > being shaved & heat cycled.  The result of not doing this is exactly
what you
> > have seen.
>
> Which doesn't explain the GoD that I experienced on *2* sets on dry
tracks, both of which were shaved and heat cycled.
>
> Bottom line: Kumho eff-ed up these tires, big time. I know of at least a
dozen Club Racers/track junkies that have experienced similar problems.
>
> Because of this poor performance, and even poorer customer support, it
took me over a year before I'd even consider buying any Kumho tire - I
currently have a set of Victorracers on the race car, however.
>
> My 2 cents,
> Jim Bassett
> 1998 M3/4
> 1993 325is #44 JP/A5
>

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 20:28:17 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Question about LSD Diffs..

A Quaife, Torson, or gerotor will appear to be an open diff with that test.
A conventional clutch type limited slip will not.  Jack up one rear tire,
leave the trans in neutral and measure the torque to slip the diff clutches.

Gary Derian

> >
> >Jack up the rear end (both wheels off the ground) and rotate one of the
> >wheels, if the other one turns in the same direction you have LSD, if it
> >turns the opposite direction you don't.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Jamie Howton
> >2002 330i (No LSD and it's a damn shame)
> >1995 M3 (LSD)
>
>

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:17:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: <WOT> One whopping diesel engine!

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Malcolm Reitz wrote:

> WOW! The steps going down into the crankcase really made me think
> just how big this thing is. I guess the fact that it can do 102
> RPM is pretty impressive for such a monster. I wonder what a CAI
> and chip would do for its power numbers :-)

 I heard they custom fabricated a big chrome resonator pipe / exhaust
tip for it, but the extrememly intense sound wave produced was exactly
at the "brown noise" frequency, and everyone within 1 mile
simultaneously pooped their pants.

- --
 "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
   -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:27:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Matison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] '90 E30 325i C101 connector summary

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Thanks to John Bolhuis, Rich Dorfer, Chris Baisley and Mitchell Morrison for 
responding to my querry.  
 
Several of these guys directed me to this site which, though in Russian?, has some 
useful information covering BMW wiring diagrams
 
http://www.autolib.diakom.ru:8001/CAR/BMW/
 
I also got this link which has the C101 connector pinout.  Look in the engine swaps 
section under "US M50 motor into e30 chassis", then "pin chart"
 
Thanks again, I got everything that I needed and more.
 
Mike Matison



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<DIV>
<DIV>Thanks to John Bolhuis, Rich Dorfer, Chris Baisley and Mitchell Morrison&nbsp;for 
responding to my querry.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Several of these guys directed me to this site which, though in Russian?, has 
some useful information covering BMW wiring diagrams</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A 
href="http://www.autolib.diakom.ru:8001/CAR/BMW/";>http://www.autolib.diakom.ru:8001/CAR/BMW/</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I also got this link which has the C101 connector pinout.&nbsp; Look in the 
engine swaps section under "US M50 motor into e30 chassis", then "pin chart"</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks again, I got everything that I needed and more.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Mike Matison</DIV></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 22:01:48 -0400
From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Re:  E39 528 Diff Info

The E38, E39 and E46, and everything since for that matter, have a new style
of differential.

While the history has continued, with small, medium and large versions of
this new style diff, they are not compatible with the traditional style of
diff that BMW has used since the 70's.

In a few cases, 2 of the bearings are the same.  Other than that, all
components in the diffs are different and not interchangeable.

> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Hovell
> Is there a reason that a diff from an E36 M3 wouldn't work (3.15 or 3.23
> with 25% lockup)?
>
> I thought BMW made 3 different size diffs, small medium and large.
> Wouldn't the 528 and M3 both have medium case diffs?  I suppose it's more
> complicated than that.

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 22:05:01 -0400
From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] re: BMW gas fill location

Call it a silly idea, but I would not be surprised if there is a
maerketing component to the whole thing... make the side of the car
that the driver sees look nicer without the interruption of the fuel
filler door.  Also, sloppy gas attendants (yes, we in NJ have them as
self-serve is illegal) will spill on the less-conspicuous side of the
car.  Once again, keeps the owner happier with the car.

- - Rob

- ---- Original Message ----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [uuc] re: BMW gas fill location
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 17:13:02 -0700 (PDT)

>The gas fill location should put the filler away from
>the road if you happen to run out of gas and pull over
>the slow lane berm.  It is safer for the person doing
>the filling.
>
>Ian
>
>
>"IIRC, I've also read that the Left Rear Fender
>location for gas fill is more likely to be impacted in
>an accident than the Right Rear. So, the RR location
>was touted as a safety feature. All according to
>statistical analysis of course, so truth may lie
>elsewhere."
>
>Doesn't help those of us with RHD* :(.
>
>My present and former BMWs have their filler on the
>right rear, or what would be the passenger's side in
>the country of origin.  My first car, a Honda, had its
>filler on the left rear, again on the passenger's side
>in the country/ies of origin (designed in Japan, built
>in the UK).  I don't think RHD BMWs would be 
>ignificantly less safe than their LHD counterparts in
>this respect, but there might be something to it.
>
>Andy T
>
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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 22:12:59 -0400
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] re: BMW gas fill location

Since this thread started, I looked around on the highway today.  All the
European cars I saw (didn't see any English cars) had the filler on the
right.  All the Japanese cars had them on the left.

American cars, of course, went both ways.

And aren't most racing pits set up to refill on the right side?

Uniformity might be better for filling stations, if everyone just pulled in
with one side facing the pumps -- fewer nose-to-nose situations.

Of course, I should add, that some Ferraris have the filler on the left
side.  Which I must admit, I do appreciate (like I did on pre-996 911s)
because it meant less walking when I fill it up myself.

Also, Rob, there's a kink to your marketing idea.  The cars are always
parked with the filler on the curb-side (right side in Europe, left side in
Japan), so the car looks "messier" from the curb - surely the view from
which more people have time to appreciate the lines of the car (especially
the driver's date).  :-)

vty,

- --Dennis

- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Levinson
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [uuc] re: BMW gas fill location


Call it a silly idea, but I would not be surprised if there is a
maerketing component to the whole thing... make the side of the car
that the driver sees look nicer without the interruption of the fuel
filler door.  Also, sloppy gas attendants (yes, we in NJ have them as
self-serve is illegal) will spill on the less-conspicuous side of the
car.  Once again, keeps the owner happier with the car.

- - Rob

- ---- Original Message ----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [uuc] re: BMW gas fill location
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 17:13:02 -0700 (PDT)

>The gas fill location should put the filler away from
>the road if you happen to run out of gas and pull over
>the slow lane berm.  It is safer for the person doing
>the filling.
>
>Ian
>
>
>"IIRC, I've also read that the Left Rear Fender
>location for gas fill is more likely to be impacted in
>an accident than the Right Rear. So, the RR location
>was touted as a safety feature. All according to
>statistical analysis of course, so truth may lie
>elsewhere."
>
>Doesn't help those of us with RHD* :(.
>
>My present and former BMWs have their filler on the
>right rear, or what would be the passenger's side in
>the country of origin.  My first car, a Honda, had its
>filler on the left rear, again on the passenger's side
>in the country/ies of origin (designed in Japan, built
>in the UK).  I don't think RHD BMWs would be
>ignificantly less safe than their LHD counterparts in
>this respect, but there might be something to it.
>
>Andy T
>
>
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