[uucdigest]        Thursday, September 4 2003        Volume 03 : Number 6723



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       RE: [uuc] <WOT> One whopping diesel engine!
       [uuc] RE: E39 V8 running rough - (was Catalytic Test)
       Re: [uuc] Experience with Kumho Ecsta V700 Tires
       Re: [uuc] Bad Tires (was Re: Cooper S autocross impressions)
       [uuc] Shipping shock 
       [uuc] Re:  E39 528 Diff Info
       Re: [uuc] Re:  E39 528 Diff Info
       Re: [uuc] Re:  E39 528 Diff Info
       [uuc] Question about LSD Diffs..
       Re: [uuc] Question about LSD Diffs..
       RE: [uuc] Question about LSD Diffs..
       [uuc] <WOT> SAAB repair in Baltimore
       RE: [uuc] Experience with Kumho Ecsta V700 Tires
       RE: [uuc] Experience with Kumho Ecsta V700 Tires

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 09:06:36 -0500
From: "Malcolm Reitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] <WOT> One whopping diesel engine!

WOW! The steps going down into the crankcase really made me think just
how big this thing is. I guess the fact that it can do 102 RPM is pretty
impressive for such a monster. I wonder what a CAI and chip would do for
its power numbers :-)

Malcolm 
'88 M5
'98 328i


- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve.Goldstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] <WOT> One whopping diesel engine!

How does 5.6 million ft-pounds sound?

http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ccsshb/12cyl/

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 12:52:19 -0500
From: "Bill Yates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: E39 V8 running rough - (was Catalytic Test)

What error codes are generated when the cam position sensor goes bad?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Yates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Catalytic Test
> 
> 
> The error codes are:
> P0305
> P0306
> P0307
> P0308
> 
> 
> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 11:18:15 -0400
> From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [uuc] Catalytic Test
> 
> What code are you getting?
> Gary Derian
> 

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 13:04:24 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] Experience with Kumho Ecsta V700 Tires

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> For the last year I've been autocrossing on Kumho Ecsta V700s, 225/45-15
> on 7 inch rims.  My car does not run mucn negative camber, probably 
> about 1.5 degrees in front.  Springs are from an M3, and sway bars are 
> stock 325i.
> 
> Last Saturday at the GGC Marina Airport autocross I corded the outside
> edges of 3 of the 4 tires.  OK, in fairness this may have started at 
> the July autocross at Golden Gate Fields, which does have a somewhat 
> abrasive surface.
> 
> I'm not willing to go with extreme negative camber, and adjusting 
> camber before and after events is just something for which I don't 
> have time.  So I'm thinking I need to convince my wife that buying 
> a set of aftermarket sway bars is a good idea.
> 
> But out of curiousity, has anyone else had the same problem with these
> tires? 

Scott,
Tire and sway bars are not your problem. Lack of negative camber is. There 
is no easy solution to short of lowering the car and/or using adjustable 
camber plates. Just about anything short of 2.5-4 degrees of negative 
camber up front will devour the front outside edges. 
You could flip the tires on the wheels to eat up the other edge, but that 
still leaves you with frying the outside shoulders and using a fraction of 
the available grip. 

> There is still plenty of tread on them, other than the outside
> edges.  In the past, the Yokohama A008RS/RS-II and Goodrich Comp 
> T/A R1 tires I've used have worn out their tread before they corded
> the outside edges. Even the set of Kumho Victoracer V700s (225/50) 
> wore out more evenly. 

I guess you had learnt how to go faster!
;-)

> I like the 45 aspect ratio of the Ecsta V700s, but the Victoracers
> might be better for my current setup.

A lot of people do NOT like the new Ecsta V700s, but most of the 
complaints are coming from track drivers who manage to destroy the tire in 
one day. YMMV.

alex f

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 11:12:09 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] Bad Tires (was Re: Cooper S autocross impressions)

A former non-car enthusiast boss of mine had a '71 Ford Pinto equipped
with:

Exploding gas tank
Automatic transmission that might shift itself into reverse
And 2 Firestone 500 tires which, I believe, were on the back.

Talk about recall city!  It was a rolling disaster area.  Well, it was
pretty much a rolling disaster area even without all the recall issues.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 08:34:28 -0400
>From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [uuc] Bad Tires (was Re: Cooper S autocross impressions)
>
>Firestone 500.
>Gary Derian
>
>> OK, so which is the worst tire ever made for a performance car?  The
>>Pirelli
>> run-flats, or the Michelin TRX?  Discuss amongst yourselves.
>>
>> Scott Miller
>> GGC BMW CCA

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 11:53:00 -0700
From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Shipping shock 

Just a quick point of info for you ...
The available methods for shipping heavy stuff (like motors ) seems to
be diminishing ..
I am trying to ship an E30M3 motor to San Diego .It's all nicely wrapped
(Clean old shower curtain !!) to keep oil drips contained . Tied down to
a 5x3 pallet ...
In the past a call to AMTRAK would have had it on its way by now ....but
the AMTRAKIAN I talked to this AM says "San Diego has no way to handle
that weight package " . Can you imagine a train station without a
forklift truck ? How do they load all the foie-gras and champagne for
their clientele ? By hand ? ..now there's efficiency for ya !! 
Turns out the closest train station -AMTRAK- that can 'handle it ' is in
Los Angeles .120 mlsaway .
Just a heads-up for those heavy shippers out there ...check before you
commit ...

Off to find an alternate ...

Bill & Shirley Proud 
Seattle Summers , Tennessee Winters .
Long Commute between , 

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 12:38:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Hovell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re:  E39 528 Diff Info

> I'm researching infomation on possably diff swap from
> other E39's. The car is a 98' 528i 5 speed. Would like
> to keep the cost down, ie No dinan. And LSD would be
> nice. any info would be great.

Is there a reason that a diff from an E36 M3 wouldn't work (3.15 or 3.23
with 25% lockup)?

I thought BMW made 3 different size diffs, small medium and large.
Wouldn't the 528 and M3 both have medium case diffs?  I suppose it's more
complicated than that.

If this *does* work, wanna buy my 3.15 LSD cheap? :)

- - John

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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 15:46:00 -0400
From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re:  E39 528 Diff Info

That interchageability only worked in the 80's. E36 is unique.

Ed

John Hovell wrote:

>>I'm researching infomation on possably diff swap from
>>other E39's. The car is a 98' 528i 5 speed. Would like
>>to keep the cost down, ie No dinan. And LSD would be
>>nice. any info would be great.
>>    
>>
>
>Is there a reason that a diff from an E36 M3 wouldn't work (3.15 or 3.23
>with 25% lockup)?
>
>I thought BMW made 3 different size diffs, small medium and large.
>Wouldn't the 528 and M3 both have medium case diffs?  I suppose it's more
>complicated than that.
>
>If this *does* work, wanna buy my 3.15 LSD cheap? :)
>
>- John
>
>
>
>  
>

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 15:43:38 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re:  E39 528 Diff Info

The inside is one thing, the outside another.
Gary Derian

> 
> I thought BMW made 3 different size diffs, small medium and large.
> Wouldn't the 528 and M3 both have medium case diffs?  I suppose it's more
> complicated than that.
> 
> If this *does* work, wanna buy my 3.15 LSD cheap? :)
> 
> - John
> 
> 

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 15:55:28 -0400 
From: "Chamberlain, Jesse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Question about LSD Diffs..

With all of this talk about people getting their LSD diff.s rebuilt, how do you
know if a LSD diff has gone bad?  

I have a 93 325i with an 3.15 LSD diff (my car came with the cold weather
package and sports package, and also has an S stamped on the bottom of the
diff).  My car has about 145K miles on it, and with all this talk about diff's,
I was wondering what the life span for LSD diffs was, and if I should start
looking into getting a rebuilt diff (possibly go with a 3.38 or 3.46 or
something..)?

Thanks for the info!

Jesse Chamberlain

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 16:19:24 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Question about LSD Diffs..

LSD becomes an SD.
Gary Derian



> With all of this talk about people getting their LSD diff.s rebuilt, how
do you
> know if a LSD diff has gone bad?

> Jesse Chamberlain
>

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 16:04:57 -0500
From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Question about LSD Diffs..

>>With all of this talk about people getting their LSD diff.s rebuilt,
how do you know if a LSD diff has gone bad?  

Jack up the rear end (both wheels off the ground) and rotate one of the
wheels, if the other one turns in the same direction you have LSD, if it
turns the opposite direction you don't.

Regards

Jamie Howton
2002 330i (No LSD and it's a damn shame)
1995 M3 (LSD)

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 14:43:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <WOT> SAAB repair in Baltimore

Hey folks,

Good friend bought '00 9-3, looking for knowledgeable shop
(pref. independent) in the Baltimore area to work on it.

Suggestions?  SAAB lists to which I can direct him?

Thanks much, as always.

<OBMWC>  the E28 saw 222,222 on the way home Labor Day,
making it 12k miles since I bought it 9 months ago.

tammer  

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 17:53:19 -0400 
From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Experience with Kumho Ecsta V700 Tires

Scott,

Welcome to the Kumho "groove of death".  I had the exact same problem with
my V700's.  My car is also running on 15x7", although I'm approaching -2.5
camber.  My tires corded only on the very edge, where the edge of the tire
face meets the sidewall.  Mine were gone after 2 track events.  Ok, ok, the
second 2 days were at Roebling Rd, which is slightly abrasive, but still
there was only about 5 or so hours of track time.

If you go to the tirerack & kumho's website, both have an announcement that
those tires should not be used for dry track or autocross without being
shaved & heat cycled.  The result of not doing this is exactly what you have
seen.

My tires were exactly like yours, perfect everywhere but the shoulder.  A
well regarded guru in my area told me to just throw them out.  "$500 is way
cheaper than ending up on your roof," he said.

I'd say there's nothing wrong with your setup, what you have is fine.  While
the 45 aspect ratio is preferable, I went back with the victoracers for
their durability.

Lee

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [uuc] Experience with Kumho Ecsta V700 Tires
> 
> 
> For the last year I've been autocrossing on Kumho Ecsta 
> V700s, 225/45-15 on
> 7 inch rims.  My car does not run mucn negative camber, 
> probably about 1.5
> degrees in front.  Springs are from an M3, and sway bars are 
> stock 325i.
> 
> Last Saturday at the GGC Marina Airport autocross I corded the outside
> edges of 3 of the 4 tires.  OK, in fairness this may have 
> started at the
> July autocross at Golden Gate Fields, which does have a 
> somewhat abrasive
> surface.
> 
> I'm not willing to go with extreme negative camber, and 
> adjusting camber
> before and after events is just something for which I don't 
> have time.  So
> I'm thinking I need to convince my wife that buying a set of 
> aftermarket
> sway bars is a good idea.
> 
> But out of curiousity, has anyone else had the same problem with these
> tires?  There is still plenty of tread on them, other than the outside
> edges.  In the past, the Yokohama A008RS/RS-II and Goodrich 
> Comp T/A R1
> tires I've used have worn out their tread before they corded 
> the outside
> edges.  Even the set of Kumho Victoracer V700s (225/50) wore out more
> evenly.  I like the 45 aspect ratio of the Ecsta V700s, but 
> the Victoracers
> might be better for my current setup.
> 
> Scott Miller
> GGC BMW CCA
> 1990 325i
> 
> 

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Date: Thu,  4 Sep 2003 15:40:21 -0700
From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Experience with Kumho Ecsta V700 Tires

> Welcome to the Kumho "groove of death".  

AKA Groove of Doom, ala the old BFG R1.

> If you go to the tirerack & kumho's website, both have an announcement
> that those tires should not be used for dry track or autocross without
> being shaved & heat cycled.  The result of not doing this is exactly what you
> have seen.

Which doesn't explain the GoD that I experienced on *2* sets on dry tracks, both of 
which were shaved and heat cycled.

Bottom line: Kumho eff-ed up these tires, big time. I know of at least a dozen Club 
Racers/track junkies that have experienced similar problems.

Because of this poor performance, and even poorer customer support, it took me over a 
year before I'd even consider buying any Kumho tire - I currently have a set of 
Victorracers on the race car, however.

My 2 cents,
Jim Bassett
1998 M3/4
1993 325is #44 JP/A5

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