[uucdigest]        Monday, September 15 2003        Volume 03 : Number 6750



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] Re: Steering fluid disappearing
       [uuc] Tire Patch Shape
       Re: [uuc] anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series in or close to NJ?
       Re: [uuc] anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series in or close to NJ?
       Re: [uuc] anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series in or close to NJ?
       [uuc] RE: [E36 M3] Labor for replacing a cylinder head
       [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #6748
       Re: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #6748
       [uuc] Life and China
       RE: [uuc] RE: [E36 M3] Labor for replacing a cylinder head
       [uuc] [OT] old tool restoration?
       Re: [uuc] anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series in or close to NJ?
       Re: [uuc] anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series in or close to NJ?

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:02:07 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Re: Steering fluid disappearing

Gary,

I just had the same thing happen in my 325es. It seeps out slowly from the bottom of 
the resevior. I am hoping that a simple clamp change should fix it. My hose showed 
where it was coming from, albeit slowly. Hope that yours is as easy to fix.

Cheers,
Jim
84 318i EvoII
85 325
86 325es
87 325
www.DirtyE30.net


> Subject: [uuc] Steering fluid disappearing
> 
> My 325e's steering fluid is disappearing.  I have found no 
> noticeable
> leaks, drips, or dark spots on my driveway.  Any ideas?
> 
> - -Gary 
> 1985 325e

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:10:43 -0400
From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Tire Patch Shape

Back to car related topics ...

I'm not sure that anyone has ever strictly proven it, but it seems to be a
pretty well accepted theory that for road course racing in a
production-based street vehicle, a wider, shorter tire patch is superior to
a narrower, longer tire patch.  More specifically, holding all variables
constant, a 225 tire will outperform a 205 tire.  Yes?  (Remember, with a
constant vehicle weight and a constant tire pressure, you cannot change the
overall size of the tire patch)

Now, it would seem intuitive that braking and accelerating would both be
maximized with the same shape tire patch since they occur in parallel
directions.  But cornering occurs perpendicular to (or at least at an angle
to) braking and accelerating.  This would suggest that they cannot all be
maximized with the same shape tire patch.

In purpose-built racecars, you see wide rear tires but narrower front tires.
Due to the stiffness of their suspensions, I am not sure that you can
conclude anything regarding the optimum shape tire patch for cornering.
However, these cars would seem to make it clear that for accelerating, the
wider tire patch is best.  Which leads to the conclusion that wider is best
for braking.

So, is a narrower, longer tire patch superior for cornering??  Not that I
know of.  I must be analyzing this too simplistically.  Someone fill in the
blanks, please.

Stan

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 21:08:00 -0700
From: Bora Akyol (BMW) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series in or close to NJ?

I always thought a jaguar was a lot more "impressive" in terms of status
symbol then a BMW 5 series.

The last of the XJ6s are quite reliable apparently too and dirt cheap
since they are followed by the V8 engine.

Bora

On Sunday, Sep 14, 2003, at 19:35 US/Pacific, Rob Levinson wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> My neighbor is looking for a 5-series or 7-series.  Needs to be the
> kind of car that impresses clients.
>
> Must be automatic, clean, and reliable.  If it breaks, I'm going to
> hear it - and I don't want to hear it!
>
> The issue is the budget - $9K or less doesn't sound like an E39 or
> E38 unless somebody is feeling generous.  Anybody have a super-clean
> E34 or E32 for sale?
>
> - Rob
>

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 00:35:17 -0400
From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series in or close to NJ?

Funny, that was her alternate choice.

As the bulk of the budget is going into the car, I didn't think the
Jaguar would be a good choice at the maintenance end.  As always, I
am more than happy to be shown otherwise!

- - Rob

- ---- Original Message ----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series in
or close to NJ?

>I always thought a jaguar was a lot more "impressive" in terms of
>status
>symbol then a BMW 5 series.
>
>The last of the XJ6s are quite reliable apparently too and dirt cheap
>since they are followed by the V8 engine.
>
>Bora

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 22:14:09 -0700
From: Bora Akyol (BMW) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series in or close to NJ?

If you ask me all Jags including the new for 03 XJ series
are beautiful cars, the interiors are like artwork
and the leather stitching is immaculate. I almost bought
an XJR this year (2000 model) that looked to be in fine working order
despite being 3 years old.

I bet that she can pick up a 95-96 XJ for around the price of 9K
if not slightly more.

And if she is a real estate agent or such her clients will
be more impressed since to the untrained eye, a 95 XJ looks
a lot like an 03 XJ as long as the car is in good shape.

Another car (but not with four doors) is the XJS-12 SC edition,
rare but a nice car with the smoothness of the 12, but I believe
those came with Lucas electric parts, so I may not be
keen on owning one of these.

I am sure there are other British car experts on the list that can
chime in here.

Bora

On Sunday, Sep 14, 2003, at 21:35 US/Pacific, Rob Levinson wrote:

> Funny, that was her alternate choice.
>
> As the bulk of the budget is going into the car, I didn't think the
> Jaguar would be a good choice at the maintenance end.  As always, I
> am more than happy to be shown otherwise!
>
> - Rob
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [uuc] anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series in
> or close to NJ?
>
>> I always thought a jaguar was a lot more "impressive" in terms of
>> status
>> symbol then a BMW 5 series.
>>
>> The last of the XJ6s are quite reliable apparently too and dirt cheap
>> since they are followed by the V8 engine.
>>
>> Bora
>

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 00:21:28 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: [E36 M3] Labor for replacing a cylinder head

on 9/12/03 11:41 AM, "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Motorwerks in Barrington IL just quoted me $950 to replace a head gasket
> and install cams (provided by me) on my 95 M3.  This included the price
> of having the head machined and a new head gasket.  For reference,
> Motorwerks are a very large BMW/Mercedes/Porsche/Infiniti/Honda
> dealership.
> 
> Their usual labor rate is $95/ hour.

That seems very inexpensive, apparently just 10 hours worth. BMW flat rate
for the cam swap alone is 5.5 hours, and head removal is a whole bunch more
work.

Neil
96 M3

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:21:07 -0500
From: "Larry T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #6748

Speaking of Magoos, I'd like to throw this in. I used their service when I 
bought my 98 M3 off ebay. They said everything was perfect, except for "loud 
road noise" (he drove it like 5 miles). He didn't mention that the rear 
driver tire was so bald in the middle, it was leaking air without having a 
hole. Also, there was a 2" crack in the front bumper, there was a turn 
signal burned out, and the passenger door lock doesn't work if you put a key 
in it. Needless to say, I was slightly bitter about the whole thing, since 
it cost $125.

Larry


>Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 00:37:28 -0400
>From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [uuc] AAA Pre Purchase Inspection
>
>I have used Magoos in court cases.
>
>Ed
>
>Dennis Wynne wrote:
>
> > http://www.inspectionsolution.com
> >
> > http://www.magoos-inc.com/
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:07:15 -0400
From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #6748

They contract fro inspectors and give the inspector (mine was a woman) a 
checklist to go by. They are oriented to settling extended warranty 
claims, not pre-purchase inspections.

I have made up and used my own pre-purchase checklist and tires are near 
the top of the list.

I note that they have always refused to drive a car in cases where I was 
involved, citing lack of insurance coverage (they are independent 
contractors). These cases were claims of improper oil changes at Jiffy 
Lube (in particular a certain Acura Legend model that they drained both 
trans and diff, but only refilled the trans).

Ed

Larry T wrote:

> Speaking of Magoos, I'd like to throw this in. I used their service 
> when I bought my 98 M3 off ebay. They said everything was perfect, 
> except for "loud road noise" (he drove it like 5 miles). He didn't 
> mention that the rear driver tire was so bald in the middle, it was 
> leaking air without having a hole. Also, there was a 2" crack in the 
> front bumper, there was a turn signal burned out, and the passenger 
> door lock doesn't work if you put a key in it. Needless to say, I was 
> slightly bitter about the whole thing, since it cost $125.
>
> Larry
>
>
>> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 00:37:28 -0400
>> From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [uuc] AAA Pre Purchase Inspection
>>
>> I have used Magoos in court cases.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> Dennis Wynne wrote:
>>
>> > http://www.inspectionsolution.com
>> >
>> > http://www.magoos-inc.com/
>>
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:08:37 -0400
From: "Bill Heumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Life and China

God, China and politics to wade through on a BMW digest. Too much!

There are plenty of other places to rant on religion, God, politics, trade
policy etc.

Please take it somewhere else.

Bill Heumann
2002 E46 M3
1997 E36 328iS
2003 Z4

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 07:19:26 -0500
From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] RE: [E36 M3] Labor for replacing a cylinder head

> That seems very inexpensive, apparently just 10 hours worth. 
> BMW flat rate for the cam swap alone is 5.5 hours, and head 
> removal is a whole bunch more work.

Yes, I know it is very low.  I was speaking to the Service Manager and I
asked him to confirm the price because it seemed low to me.  I was
weighing the decision whether to do the work myself or not and at this
price it seems like an easy decision.  The real issue is that I don't
_need_ the work to be done yet.  My head gasket is seeping oil very
slightly which is what prompted me to ask; of course the Schrick cams
would be nice...


Regards

Jamie Howton
2002 330i
1995 M3
 

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:19:49 +0000
From: "Gilbert Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] [OT] old tool restoration?

Gruppe:

My grandfather died a while ago. Our family is just starting to go through 
the house to recover any worthwhile belongings. He had a fair amount of hand 
tools. Most of them have a full compliment of surface rust due to years of 
neglect. Is there a way to restore these tools to their former states? Will 
they always be rusty? Any insight would be appreciated. TIA

Gilbert

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:34:30 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series in or close to NJ?

No $9,000 car will impress clients, unless they are idiots.  If they are, he
shouldn't want them as clients.  Hmm...

Buy a Hyundai and put Roundels in it.

<grin>

Gary Derian


> Hey guys,
>
> My neighbor is looking for a 5-series or 7-series.  Needs to be the
> kind of car that impresses clients.
>
> Must be automatic, clean, and reliable.  If it breaks, I'm going to
> hear it - and I don't want to hear it!
>
> The issue is the budget - $9K or less doesn't sound like an E39 or
> E38 unless somebody is feeling generous.  Anybody have a super-clean
> E34 or E32 for sale?
>
> - Rob
>

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:02:48 -0500
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series in or close to NJ?

I can't vouch for the reliability, but you are correct - they are gorgeous
cars. Just about every one of their cars is a work of art, style-wise.

A guy in our office building showed up with an XJ convertible and it looks
sweet. One day it would not start and he had to call for a tow. He was
lamenting the cost of repairs. I asked why, since the car was still under
warranty. Nope, it is 6 years old with 50-60k on it!  STILL looks like a
new car, both in appearance (I am sure partly due to someone taking good
care of it) and in style (timeless).

They may not be as fun to drive as a BMW, but they do look nice.

Dennis
M5 silver/black
330i silver/black/manual/sp/pp/xenon/cd - now for sale!


At 10:14 PM 09/14/2003 -0700, BMW wrote:
>If you ask me all Jags including the new for 03 XJ series
>are beautiful cars, the interiors are like artwork
>and the leather stitching is immaculate. I almost bought
>an XJR this year (2000 model) that looked to be in fine working order
>despite being 3 years old.
>
>I bet that she can pick up a 95-96 XJ for around the price of 9K
>if not slightly more.
>
>And if she is a real estate agent or such her clients will
>be more impressed since to the untrained eye, a 95 XJ looks
>a lot like an 03 XJ as long as the car is in good shape.
>
>Another car (but not with four doors) is the XJS-12 SC edition,
>rare but a nice car with the smoothness of the 12, but I believe
>those came with Lucas electric parts, so I may not be
>keen on owning one of these.
>
>I am sure there are other British car experts on the list that can
>chime in here.
>
>Bora
>
>On Sunday, Sep 14, 2003, at 21:35 US/Pacific, Rob Levinson wrote:
>
>>Funny, that was her alternate choice.
>>
>>As the bulk of the budget is going into the car, I didn't think the
>>Jaguar would be a good choice at the maintenance end.  As always, I
>>am more than happy to be shown otherwise!
>>
>>- Rob
>>
>>---- Original Message ----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: [uuc] anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series in
>>or close to NJ?
>>
>>>I always thought a jaguar was a lot more "impressive" in terms of
>>>status
>>>symbol then a BMW 5 series.
>>>
>>>The last of the XJ6s are quite reliable apparently too and dirt cheap
>>>since they are followed by the V8 engine.
>>>
>>>Bora
>

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