[uucdigest]        Monday, September 22 2003        Volume 03 : Number 6771



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] Re: <misc> bmw at the hardware store
       Re: [uuc] E30 starter prob
       [uuc] Re: [All] Minimum Brake Pad Thicknesses for Track Usage
       RE: [uuc] E30 starter prob
       [uuc] 635 Diff Fit in an E30?
       RE: [uuc] E30 starter prob
       RE: [uuc] 635 Diff Fit in an E30?
       RE: [uuc] An "oops" or coincidence? E36...
       RE: [uuc] E30 starter prob
       RE: [uuc] E36 O2 sensor removal
       [uuc] '99 miata autox package for sale

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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 19:21:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: <misc> bmw at the hardware store

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Tammer Farid wrote:

> Are those pics online anywhere?

 Alas, they were badly framed snaps from a cheap (probably disposable)
camera at night.  Grainy as heck, poorly exposed, barely good enough
to see what happened.  I'm pretty sure they're not on line anywhere.
 I can give you the location though if you'd like to go see for
yourself and chuckle at the skidmarks.  Redwood City Ace Hardware.  Go
there and buy stuff.  I like the people there and wish them well. :)

- --
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   -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro

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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 20:32:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 starter prob

Jeff,

Is the starter tightened down onto the transmission? 
It sounds like the starter is wired fine but it's not
engaging the teeth on the flywheel.

Brad "Shifty" Couvillon
'85 Euro 535i
ex-87 528e
www.fatdaddybmw.com



- --- "Pharr, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just completed a motor swap in an '89 325 and now
> I'm having a little
> starter problem.  I know the starter was good
> because I used it once to
> start the 'new' motor I just installed.
> 
> The single symptom is that when the ignition is
> turned to Start there is
> a whirring sound from the starter but no cranking of
> the motor.  There
> is no loud click to suggest that the solenoid is
> moving the starter gear
> to mesh with the ring gear and it sounds like the
> starter gear is just
> spinning freely.  I would have to assume that I have
> something wired
> incorrectly but for the life of me I can't see what
> it might be.  The
> only wire that has to be disconnected for the swap
> is the big fat ++
> cable and there is really only one spot that it will
> go.  
> 
> I didn't think the design of the E30 starter would
> switch power to the
> starter motor until it was fully engaged with the
> ring gear so it seems
> like this may be a solenoid switch failure but I'm
> not a big believer in
> coincidences like this.  Any thoughts on what I
> might have screwed
> up/knocked loose that would cause this sort of
> symptom?
> 
> Oh, and I don't think it's a battery issue.  The
> battery was pretty
> strong when I started the swap, but I hooked up my
> charger and set it to
> 'Jump Start' just to make sure and it did not change
> the symptom at all.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --Jeff


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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:27:25 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: [All] Minimum Brake Pad Thicknesses for Track Usage

on 9/21/03 8:39 PM, "Joe Elwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thought I'd share some info on a few brake failures I've seen. Thankfully,
> no one was injured in either, but witnessing them has made me pretty
> conservative about how far down I'll take my pads.
> 
> Check out this picture:
> http://64.163.218.124/brake_pic/pad&piston.jpg

Ouch, that's ugly.

A couple of years ago at Road America an E36 M3 went through a front pad and
into the backing plate, then the piston came out of the bore resulting in
partial loss of brake circuit pressure. The car went of at high speed at
Canada Corner and was totalled.

BTW I have a hideously gouged and blued brake rotor hanging on my garage
wall, memento of a personal indiscretion at Gingerman a few years back. I
keep it there to remind me not to be so damn' stupid another time. My wife
didn't much appreciate our driving 200 miles home with virtually no brakes
either.

Neil
96 M3

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 01:15:55 -0400
From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] E30 starter prob

My first thought was, did you install the flywheel?
;-0

Brett Anderson
KMS

> Is the starter tightened down onto the transmission? 
> It sounds like the starter is wired fine but it's not
> engaging the teeth on the flywheel.
> Brad "Shifty" Couvillon

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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:41:39 -0700
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] 635 Diff Fit in an E30?

(2nd attempt to post, 1st one got a weird bounce from some computer I've
never heard of before.)

Here's a quick question for anyone who knows (hi Brett):  Will a 3.91:1 LSD
from a 635CSi fit in an E30 325i?  I was not aware that BMW even put a 3.91
diff in the 635 in the U.S.  Then again, I don't know if the donor car was a
U.S car or not.  I know the diff from the M5/M6 has a larger case and will
not fit in my E30.

Thanks,

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:39:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] E30 starter prob

That actually ran through my mind, too.  Does that
make me as smart as you?  ;-)

Actually, the only reason it ran through my mind is
because that was one of the few things I did CORRECTLY
when I did my 5-speed conversion a few months ago. 
WHEW!

Brad Couvillon
'85 Euro 535i
ex-87 528e
www.fatdaddybmw.com


- --- KMS - Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> My first thought was, did you install the flywheel?
> ;-0
> 
> Brett Anderson
> KMS

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 01:47:38 -0400
From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] 635 Diff Fit in an E30?

>From 6/87, 635CSi Auto's had 3.91.

It will bolt in to the E30 after swapping on the E30 rear cover.

Brett Anderson
KMS


> -----Original Message-----
> On Behalf Of Scott & Charlotte Miller
> Here's a quick question for anyone who knows (hi Brett):  Will a
> 3.91:1 LSD
> from a 635CSi fit in an E30 325i?  I was not aware that BMW even
> put a 3.91
> diff in the 635 in the U.S.  Then again, I don't know if the
> donor car was a
> U.S car or not.  I know the diff from the M5/M6 has a larger case and will
> not fit in my E30.
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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 10:58:16 +0200
From: "Pavel Tcholakov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] An "oops" or coincidence? E36...

Andrew Thomas said:

"[...] I understand that the Check-Control senses the current passed
through the bulb filament.  As the current drops to zero (blown bulb,
infinite electrical resistance), the Check-Control displays a fault
message.  I did have problems with the outer taillight bulb carrier
contacts "melting" due to an imperfect connection; sometimes the bulb
would light, sometimes it would not.   I suspect also that the
Check-Control may indicate a bulb failure only when the resistance
increases, not when it goes to infinity (blown bulb)."

Indeed, it turned out that it wasn't simply a fused bulb. After I
changed the bulb, the C-C message appeared again. I took all the bulbs
out and found that one of the other bulbs wasn't the correct format --
obviously somebody in a vain attempt to save money and/or time fitted
the wrong bulb and, perhaps recently, perhaps due to vibration or
something similar, it stopped making contact? I found another seemingly
fused bulb on the other side. After changing all that and making sure
the plastic holders are all properly installed and making good contact
there it's gone away. I'm sure that these things happened over time and
the Check Control only picked it up after the last event, when the
circuit was completely broken, whereas just one misplaced or fused bulb
didn't trigger it. What's strange is why the message came back after I
changed only one bulb? :-)


"Do you have air con?  Haynes shows the HV (not HVAC) unit coming out
through the space left by removing the clock/OBC beneath it.  I believe
the HVAC unit (with two air-con controls) is deeper.  Maybe that's why
Haynes left it out."

I do, it's the old rotary knob-style air con control, with dual zone
adjustment, so there's two big knobs on either side to control fan speed
and direction or air, and two smaller ones in between to control
temperature in either side. I did try to slide it back inwards (i.e.
direction of the engine) and then tilt it so I can pull it from
underneath. Seems like it might just make it but I gave up because
something got stuck and I was afraid not to damage the wiring.


"You will at least need your dealer to re-code your car so the OBC can
be recognised.  It's unlikely that the car is pre-wired and ready, as
the E36's full OBC has two connectors which IIRC are wired differently.
If you mean that there is an unused white connector plug lying around
behind the clock/temp/C-C, then as I understand it, you will have to
move two wires from one connector to the other."

Yep, I have a white connector plug lying in the back, as well as a black
one which is currently plugged into the simple C-C unit. I confirmed
with two different sources, one a mechanic, and somebody who's done it,
that it is actually a plug-n-play operation.

Pavel

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:12:27 -0400
From: "Pharr, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] E30 starter prob

Flywheel?  I did have a pile of parts left over when I got everything
put back together...

Yes, the flywheel was installed and the starter is torqued down nice and
snug.  I don't think this is the issue since I don't hear any click to
indicate the starter is even trying to engage the gear.

- --Jeff

> -----Original Message-----
> From: KMS - Brett Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 1:16 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [uuc] E30 starter prob
> 
> My first thought was, did you install the flywheel?
> ;-0
> 
> Brett Anderson
> KMS
> 
> > Is the starter tightened down onto the transmission?
> > It sounds like the starter is wired fine but it's not
> > engaging the teeth on the flywheel.
> > Brad "Shifty" Couvillon
> 
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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:44:42 -0400
From: Pat Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] E36 O2 sensor removal

AutoZone has tools to borrow.  I replaced my O2 sensor a few months back,
bought it from BavAuto and borrowed the socket from AutoZone.  Gave them $15
collateral and got the $15 back when I returned the socket.  It's still a
B*&"# to get the damn thing off though.

Pat Green
92 325i

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 8:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 O2 sensor removal


Sounds like the same setup my e34 525i has - I bought an O2 sensor socket
from 
Bavarian Autosport - $15.  It is a socket with a hex on the end and a slot
to 
accomodate the wire.  It didn't make the job easy, but it was not
impossible.
:)

Cheers.
> 
> 
> What's the best tool for removing an E36 O2
> sensor?
> 
> The sensor is tucked in on the topside of the
> exhaust system at the crotch of pipe where it
> splits into two pieces.  Is a generic 22mm O2
> sensor socket going to work, or is there a
> special BMW tool for the job?
> 
> Note to anyone changing out a clutch: consider
> the 02 sensor while you have the exhaust out of
> the car (in addition to the flex disk and exhaust
> hangers/hardware).
> 
> 
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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:09:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Mark J. Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] '99 miata autox package for sale

Howdy,

Sorry for the spam and crossposting, I'll try and not make it a habit.
:-/

My girlfriend's '99 miata is for sale.

Complete autox setup, including a set of race wheels, tire trailer, tools,
konis, RB front bar, etc.

~39k miles, dark metalic blue w/black interior.

$12,500 obo for everything.

See http://www.maracing.com/miata/ for more information!

Mark

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