[uucdigest] Tuesday, September 30 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6786
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Re: Lee's brakes Re: [uuc] Front end noise fixed & successful panoz track days at Road A [uuc] Front air dam '96 840i Re: [uuc] Front end noise fixed & successful panoz track days at Road A RE: [uuc] Re: Lee's brakes RE: [uuc] Front end noise fixed & successful panoz track days at Road A Re: [uuc] Re: Lee's brakes RE: [uuc] Front end noise fixed & successful panoz track days at Road A RE: [uuc] Front end noise fixed & successful panoz track days at Road A [uuc] Source for Hawk HPS pads - Toronto Area? [uuc] testing Re: [uuc] Source for Hawk HPS pads - Toronto Area? [uuc] Making 2 Differentials into 1 RE: [uuc] Making 2 Differentials into 1 [uuc] What to expect from 1995 525 with 95k miles RE: [uuc] Source for Hawk HPS pads - Toronto Area? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:50:01 -0400 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Lee's brakes Lee wrote: > 88 M3->backing plates & rotors don't play nice together....... what's the story here ? Ben '04 STi - briefly glowing red-hot rotors (really) due to 2mm too thick track pads :-P ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:54:29 -0700 From: "J. Ochi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Front end noise fixed & successful panoz track days at Road A At 02:26 PM 9/30/2003 -0400, Robinson, Lee wrote: >Well, that changed too. It seems my car doesn't like the Redline 75w90NS as >it started making a grumbling sound at parking lot kinda turns. Going back >to the regular Redline w/out the LS modifiers should resolve this. Uh, I think you have this backwards. The Redline NS gear oil does not have the limited slip friction modifiers in it. The normal Redline gear oil does have the modifiers. So, you can either change over to the Redline with the friction modifiers, or just add a friction modifier to the stuff you have in your diff. The second way may be better - that way, you may be able to slightly tune the amount of lockup in your diff. Jim Ochi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:17:03 -0500 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Front air dam '96 840i Hello Group, A friend of a friend has asked me if I will install a new lower front air dam on his 840i. I have not seen the car yet, but was told the part that needs to be replaced is the black plastic lower air dam (this one has been eaten up by parking lot cement curbs). Does anybody out there have experience with the 8 series that can tell me how difficult or easy this job will be? Also, he is ready to spend $1200 on a new piece, I know the 8 series can be spendy to repair but there has got to be a better source for these - yes? Any suggestions? I have not checked the usual recyclers yet, but fully intend to. TIA. Andrew Harkonen '89 535i '95 M3 - gone (miss her every day) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:39:31 -0400 From: Thomas Philip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Front end noise fixed & successful panoz track days at Road A On Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003, at 14:26 US/Eastern, Robinson, Lee wrote: > Well, that changed too. It seems my car doesn't like the Redline > 75w90NS as > it started making a grumbling sound at parking lot kinda turns. Going > back > to the regular Redline w/out the LS modifiers should resolve this. If it's grumbling, don't you need MORE of the friction modifier stuff? This was the problem we had with my buddy's E30 325 track car... a quick trip to the Chebby dealer for GM Diff Additive (the counter guy called it the "Corvette Diff Stuff") did the trick and saved him from wasting a few quarts of new Redline. (It's not much savings, but it's beer money) tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:48:57 -0400 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: Lee's brakes Had about 2/3 pad thickness Sun morning. After 3 hours on the track, when changing the wheels back for the drive home, it was apparent that there was no pad thickness. Less than 1mm--scored the hell out of the rotors. Heard it making noise at the start of the last session & figured they were done, but ran anyway. Just enough to nurse home. The story is brakes are a wear item.... :) Lee 88M3->hung with the STi until the road straightened & he came on boost....once on boost he even gave the Vettes a run for their money > -----Original Message----- > From: ben keyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:50 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] Re: Lee's brakes > > > Lee wrote: > > > 88 M3->backing plates & rotors don't play nice together....... > > what's the story here ? > > > Ben > '04 STi - briefly glowing red-hot rotors (really) due to > 2mm too thick track pads :-P > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:51:12 -0400 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Front end noise fixed & successful panoz track days at Road A > Uh, I think you have this backwards. The Redline NS gear oil > does not have > the limited slip friction modifiers in it. The normal > Redline gear oil > does have the modifiers. So, you can either change over to > the Redline > with the friction modifiers, or just add a friction modifier > to the stuff > you have in your diff. The second way may be better - that > way, you may be > able to slightly tune the amount of lockup in your diff. This would 'splain some things. I knew it would be this as the car was fine before & not afterwards. I would assume the friction modifiers isn't something one would just find a t Pep Boys..... > > Jim Ochi > Lee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:57:58 -0400 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Lee's brakes Lee wrote: > Had about 2/3 pad thickness Sun morning. After 3 hours on the track, when > changing the wheels back for the drive home, it was apparent that there was > no pad thickness. Less than 1mm--scored the hell out of the rotors. Heard > it making noise at the start of the last session & figured they were done, > but ran anyway. Just enough to nurse home. when you wrote backing plates I was thinking backing plates with ducts, not the backing plates on the pads :-P I've done in pads that way as well. Ben waved by a lot of people at The Glen, having not had any track time there prior to this weekend & running with a lot of people with tons of time there. still a complete blast. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:09:00 -0700 From: "J. Ochi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Front end noise fixed & successful panoz track days at Road A At 03:51 PM 9/30/2003 -0400, Robinson, Lee wrote: >I would assume the friction modifiers isn't >something one would just find a t Pep Boys..... Actually, it might be. Redline makes one, so you may be able to find it with the rest of the Redline stuff at Pep Boys (or whatever...). I've also heard that the 'Merkin car guys use one by GM or Chevy or someone similar - probably could find it at any pony car type of speed shop. The non-lowest-common-denominator parts places, like a good independant, NAPA, etc. (not Kragan, Autozone, Pep Boys, or any of the other drecky chain places) may have it, too. From what I hear, the main thing is not to spill it on yourself. Supposed to stink worse than any other fluid in your car... Jim Ochi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 06:28:18 +1000 From: "Kim Henshaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Front end noise fixed & successful panoz track days at Road A 75W90NS DOES NOT have ANY friction modifiers in it. The NS stands for "No Slip". Kim V Henshaw - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Philip Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Front end noise fixed & successful panoz track days at Road A On Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003, at 14:26 US/Eastern, Robinson, Lee wrote: > Well, that changed too. It seems my car doesn't like the Redline > 75w90NS as > it started making a grumbling sound at parking lot kinda turns. Going > back > to the regular Redline w/out the LS modifiers should resolve this. If it's grumbling, don't you need MORE of the friction modifier stuff? This was the problem we had with my buddy's E30 325 track car... a quick trip to the Chebby dealer for GM Diff Additive (the counter guy called it the "Corvette Diff Stuff") did the trick and saved him from wasting a few quarts of new Redline. (It's not much savings, but it's beer money) tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:52:05 -0400 From: "Michael Fagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Source for Hawk HPS pads - Toronto Area? The subject line says it all. I would like to avoid shipping, duty, etc. FYI they will be replacing a set of EBC green that deposited so much crap on the rotors that the resulting shake while braking made it unsafe. Thanks, Michael Fagan 1987 325ic 1991 325ica ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:05:36 -0500 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] testing Sorry for the wasted message, last post did not go through. Hope this one does. Andrew Harkonen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:12:34 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Source for Hawk HPS pads - Toronto Area? On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 01:52 PM, Michael Fagan wrote: > The subject line says it all. I would like to avoid shipping, duty, > etc. FYI they will be replacing a set of EBC green that deposited so > much crap on the rotors that the resulting shake while braking made it > unsafe. Has ANYONE ever had a good experience with a set of EBC brake pads? I've never heard a positive review of any of them. Just curious. - - Mark E36 325is JP/AF #117, first race last weekend at Buttonwillow - ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:23:39 -0500 From: "Castro-Miller, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Making 2 Differentials into 1 I'm in the market for a Limited Slip Diff for my new-to-me 85 535. While calling the bone yards (who all can sell me non-LSD), one of them says, "Why not take mine and put the LS parts from yours into it? I did that on my Mercedes a few years ago." Mine has a whining front bearing and a bolt head was found in it when changing the diff oil (making me think of Brett's recent diagnosis of a sheared bolt head). So my question is, does it make sense that we could make a slip into a limited slip by combining the two? Thanks for your help. Steve Castro-Miller 85 535i 220k miles 88 735i 192k miles (If anyone has a 3.25 or 3.46 they are looking to sell, please reply off list.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:51:06 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Making 2 Differentials into 1 if your ring and pinion are good and the lsd isn't worn out why not just get yours rebuilt? or better yet buy a quiafe from Brett and replace your lsd ;-) Anyway to answer your question I believe the answer is yes. For instance I used a 3.73 ring and pinion from a non-lsd E30 diff, a quaife from Brett, and my E36 M3 case and had a killer diff built. Marco - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Castro-Miller, Steve Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:24 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [uuc] Making 2 Differentials into 1 I'm in the market for a Limited Slip Diff for my new-to-me 85 535. While calling the bone yards (who all can sell me non-LSD), one of them says, "Why not take mine and put the LS parts from yours into it? I did that on my Mercedes a few years ago." Mine has a whining front bearing and a bolt head was found in it when changing the diff oil (making me think of Brett's recent diagnosis of a sheared bolt head). So my question is, does it make sense that we could make a slip into a limited slip by combining the two? Thanks for your help. Steve Castro-Miller 85 535i 220k miles 88 735i 192k miles (If anyone has a 3.25 or 3.46 they are looking to sell, please reply off list.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:57:38 -0500 From: "Dana LeJune" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] What to expect from 1995 525 with 95k miles Thinking of buying a 1995 525 automatic with 95k miles. No collisions, but new A/C @ 70k miles, regular maintenance assured. He's asking $7,500. WHAT MIGHT BE THE NEXT BIG EXPENSE, COST, AND AT WHAT MILEAGE (ANY STANDARD HITS)?? Dana Andrew LeJune ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 07:56:08 +1000 From: "Kim Henshaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Source for Hawk HPS pads - Toronto Area? We use them quite successfully on our S50B30 powered E30 race car. It does have big PBR dual piston calipers and 320mm discs though... :-) Kim V Henshaw - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Dadgar Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 7:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Source for Hawk HPS pads - Toronto Area? On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 01:52 PM, Michael Fagan wrote: > The subject line says it all. I would like to avoid shipping, duty, > etc. FYI they will be replacing a set of EBC green that deposited so > much crap on the rotors that the resulting shake while braking made it > unsafe. Has ANYONE ever had a good experience with a set of EBC brake pads? I've never heard a positive review of any of them. Just curious. - - Mark E36 325is JP/AF #117, first race last weekend at Buttonwillow - ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6786 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | |==================================================== | Turner Motorsport Inc . 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